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Title: Air-to-Surface Guided Weapons: Boeing HAAWC torpedo kit ...
Post by: jcf on May 20, 2016, 05:35:29 AM

Boeing HAAWC add-on kit for torpedoes, could be added to P-8 arsenal in 2017.
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/2feee69581913188b2cf299f4cee3495a99e38ea/r=537&c=0-0-534-712/http/cdn.tegna-tv.com/-mm-/35faff88bc919cf9dbb3c1af95981c3573090208/c=0-0-726-968/local/-/media/2016/05/18/DefenseNews/DefenseNews/635991932326837957-Photo-2.jpg)

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/show-daily/sea-air-space-2016/2016/05/18/boeing-showcases-new-sub-hunting-missile/84562780/ (http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/show-daily/sea-air-space-2016/2016/05/18/boeing-showcases-new-sub-hunting-missile/84562780/)

Title: Re: Air-to-Surface Guided Weapons: Boeing HAAWC torpedo kit ...
Post by: taiidantomcat on May 20, 2016, 08:44:29 AM

That's brilliant. Going to get some attention for sure

Title: Re: Air-to-Surface Guided Weapons: Boeing HAAWC torpedo kit ...
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 21, 2016, 03:40:33 AM

There are a number of similar options put forward:

Lockheed Martin Longshot:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sWL-f9rf2N8/UPvDUPO9otI/AAAAAAAAB2Q/tgQA7y2T93s/s400/Mk54+HAAWC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PT2LdRS.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/8NWRwDj.jpg)

Raytheon Fish Hawk:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5cN7M9a4Njs/UPvDetababI/AAAAAAAAB2Y/lgY75Bxj08s/s400/Fish+Hawk.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NPxa5dx.jpg)

I believe the Indian were also looking at something:  Glider Assisted Torpedo, NSTL Visakhapatnam

(http://i.imgur.com/wcqh1a1.jpg)

A lot of this is driven by the fact that the P-8 is intended to be able to deploy such weapons from up to 30,000 ft - no more doing a low level straight in torpedo run!

Title: Re: Air-to-Surface Guided Weapons: Boeing HAAWC torpedo kit ...
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 21, 2016, 03:41:57 AM

BTW, an interesting thought with these kits: one could fit them to other items...and not just weapons.  What about a guided, deployable supply container?

Title: Re: Air-to-Surface Guided Weapons: Boeing HAAWC torpedo kit ...
Post by: kitnut617 on May 21, 2016, 04:26:34 AM

A question, once the torpedo enters the water, do these wings detach, or can they remain fixed so the torpedo could ""fly"" through the water

Title: Re: Air-to-Surface Guided Weapons: Boeing HAAWC torpedo kit ...
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 21, 2016, 04:32:12 AM

Quote from: kitnut617 on May 21, 2016, 04:26:34 AM

A question, once the torpedo enters the water, do these wings detach, or can they remain fixed so the torpedo could ""fly"" through the water

Detach I believe

Title: Re: Air-to-Surface Guided Weapons: Boeing HAAWC torpedo kit ...
Post by: jcf on May 21, 2016, 04:41:25 AM

The torpedo detaches while the combo is in flight and descends via parachute in the same fashion as the Ikara system.

Stressing the wing system to enter the water would add unnecessary complications, and it would slow the torpedo
down dramatically.

Title: Re: Air-to-Surface Guided Weapons: Boeing HAAWC torpedo kit ...
Post by: Rickshaw on May 21, 2016, 02:49:13 PM

It would make a bigger, unnecessary splash as well.   As the Ikara showed, way back in the 1960s, the best method is to drop the torp and have the missile body fly on, splashing down later away from the target zone, so not as to alert the target that a torpedo has been dropped in their vicinity.

Title: Re: Air-to-Surface Guided Weapons: Boeing HAAWC torpedo kit ...
Post by: M.A.D on May 01, 2017, 09:27:51 AM

Quote

As the Ikara showed, way back in the 1960s

With a booster rocket, it could make a good vertical launched ship-based stand-off ASW weapon  :P

M.A.D

Title: Re: Air-to-Surface Guided Weapons: Boeing HAAWC torpedo kit ...
Post by: elmayerle on May 01, 2017, 09:51:07 AM

JSOW hardware modified to carry a torpedo?