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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2015, 04:22:44 AM »
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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2015, 04:31:06 AM »
Where did you find this Greg?
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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2015, 09:49:12 AM »
One of my oldies: The BAC/Republic F-114 Napa





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The BAC/Republic F-114 Napa

The Missing US Fighters**: The numbers 112-116 and 24 to 30.

One in the Missing Fighter number designations that has recently been unearthed, the F-114 Napa was the result of a secret deal signed between the US Government and Her Majesty's Government of the United Kingdom. In exchange for cancelling their own TSR-2 strike aircraft and ordering the F-111K (which was eventually itself cancelled!) the US Government licensed the production of an UK designed fighter. Since BAC had been working on the Concorde design, it was natural that a lot of that aircrafts' characteristics found their way into the new, and highly top secret USAF fighter.
License built at Republic Aviation, the F-114, or Napa as it became known (Since the Concorde was named after a wine, it was felt an American wine would be suitable name for this aircraft) was only produced in a small number of airframes, numbering either 35 or 37. Records are unclear as to whether all the allocated airframe numbers were actually built, or if some were merely produced as spare part airframes instead. The small run was due to the UK government cancelling their order for the F-111K, which ended the license agreement.
The only operational service for the F-114 Napa appears to have been as air patrol from Kwajalein Atoll Air Force Base to intercept and escort away intrusive Soviet recon aircraft, as the area was a secure missile test range. Typical loadout was three long range fuel tanks, two Sparrow and two Sidewinder missiles. The aircraft carried no gun, a crew of two and had a cruise capability of Mach 2.5. Range was 2500 miles, and maximum altitude was 65,000 feet.
All Napas were eventually retired and placed in permanent storage at the USAF Secret storage depot under McMurdo Ice Sheet, Antarctica, in 1992. No record, except this, exists of their deployment.

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Story link: http://www.arcair.com/Gal5/4301-4400/gal4356-F-114-Petrie/00.shtm

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*Missing US Fighters: With the public unveiling of the F-117 Stealth, it was inadvertently exposed that the USAF had been using numbers AFTER the F-111, up to at the very least F-116. Also, in the early 21st century, the designation of F-35 was applied to the JSF winner, revealing that numbers from F-24 to F-34 had been utilised as well. Sloppy record keeping is to blame, and the relevant personnel have been transferred to Area 69 for retraining.


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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2015, 09:50:20 AM »
Scale-O-Rama-ed from an Airfix 1/144 Concorde and an Airfix F-15.


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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2015, 01:19:38 AM »
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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #56 on: May 02, 2016, 05:50:05 AM »
Some inspiration towards a twinned Concorde:

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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2017, 09:45:55 AM »
Stumbled on this at the BBC future page.

The Soviet Union's Flawed Rival to Concorde
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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2017, 11:06:08 AM »
FSP2 has the Concorde's immediate French predecessor, the Sud Super Caravelle as a carrying and launching aircraft for ALBMs.  I could see a militarized Concorde as such for both Britain and France, though likely not the same missiles.

This, of course, invites thoughts of similar variants of the Tu-144.

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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #59 on: February 04, 2018, 09:25:01 PM »






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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2018, 02:33:02 AM »
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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2020, 10:28:45 PM »
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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2022, 03:28:23 AM »
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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2022, 11:39:49 AM »
Possible Alt History inspiration:




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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #65 on: August 16, 2022, 02:22:51 AM »
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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #66 on: October 02, 2022, 06:08:43 PM »
^^^^^ What do you mean?

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Re: Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde and Tu-144 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #67 on: September 19, 2023, 03:57:37 PM »
We took a Tu-144 and replaced its 4 enormous underwing engines with 2 even larger ones located at the base of the tail fin. Afterwards, all the freed space under the wings and fuselage is occupied with a huge cft.