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Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« on: February 06, 2012, 06:17:28 PM »
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A thread for your Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration.

To start with, a Viggen inspired Business Jet:



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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2012, 08:50:15 PM »
Egads! It looks like something out of a Gerry Anderson thing.  Where's the marionettes!

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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 11:56:04 AM »
How about a navalized Viggen?  Especially if they managed to modulate the thrust reverser to control approach path without jockeying the throttle.

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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2012, 06:18:27 AM »
A neater two seater:



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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2012, 06:20:47 AM »
How about a navalized Viggen?  Especially if they managed to modulate the thrust reverser to control approach path without jockeying the throttle.


Most definitely - long term plan is to do one as a SAAB JA-37N ‘Cyclone’ as per Southern Sea Eagles - The Alternative RAN FAA
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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2013, 07:06:00 PM »
I was recently looking at this 1972 Dornier fighter concept:



And was wondering how one would go creating it.  Maybe the rear of a Panavia Tornado?  The idea of a twin engined Viggen is intriguing.

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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2013, 08:36:15 PM »
How about turning an F/A-18 fuselage upside down ?
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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2013, 03:38:14 AM »
That might work.  Will need to confirm dimensions though.
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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2013, 02:18:51 PM »
Role for the two seater above:  Wild Weasel.    Perhaps for service with the French in Africa. 
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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2013, 05:03:01 AM »
We have discussed and even modelled Big, developed Drakens, so what about the same for the Viggen?  Could one develop a big, long range, twin engined Viggen?  Maybe as a restart of the A-36 program?
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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2013, 05:59:52 AM »
^ A real-life scale-o-rama, then?  ;D Like the Mirage IV is a sort-of scale-o-rama'd Mirage III?
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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2013, 06:05:57 AM »
^ A real-life scale-o-rama, then?  ;D Like the Mirage IV is a sort-of scale-o-rama'd Mirage III?

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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2013, 06:59:14 AM »
How about for 1/72, start with a 1/48 F-5, with Mirage III wings and maybe F-18 forward of the intakes?

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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2013, 09:21:03 PM »
Some inspiration from Sentinel Chicken:





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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2013, 01:36:18 AM »
I've often thought that the Viggen would serve well as a point defense interceptor in the Cascade Mountain range.   That SeaTac and PDX would be gone is obvious and with the geology of this area, something like a Viggen would serve well in the woods, valleys, and volcanos.
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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2013, 03:57:38 AM »
Does anyone have any ideas how the proposed Rolls Royce RB.177 Medway might have shown itself in external details on the Viggen?

As it was proposed for the Viggen, I can't imagine any changes would include major reworking of the contours in that area of the aircraft. Or am I wrong in that assumption?
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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2013, 03:50:21 AM »
Does anyone have any ideas how the proposed Rolls Royce RB.177 Medway might have shown itself in external details on the Viggen?

As it was proposed for the Viggen, I can't imagine any changes would include major reworking of the contours in that area of the aircraft. Or am I wrong in that assumption?

No idea - how would its dimensions have compared to the RM8?  Maybe some different air intakes??? 
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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2013, 02:00:14 PM »
Interesting question.  There appears to be no data available online as to the Medway's diameter.

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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2013, 02:49:41 PM »
To find any good data, you need to find a library with Aircraft Engines of the World: 1964/1965 still on their shelves.  Jane's for that time period might also cover it.

For modelling purposes, I'd reckon that a 1/48 Spey front face would work as a 1/72 Medway front face.  I'm plotting to do a re-engined TSR.2 with Medways using the Spey exhaust nozzles from Revell''s 1/48 F-4K kit; the aren't accurate for 1/48 Spey nozzles, being sized to fit the same base as 1/48 J79 nozzles, but I reckon they'll be "close enough" for 1/72 and a low bypass-ratio turbofan would work and be rather more efficient in most flight regimes than a straight turbojet like the Olympus 300.
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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2013, 05:46:38 AM »
Some more by Sentinel Chicken:




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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2014, 02:50:33 AM »
This could make an interesting diorama:

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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2014, 05:19:56 AM »
This could make an interesting diorama:



Just imagine what it would look like with folding wings to compliment the folded over vertical tail component.  The smaller size would get you something the size of a railroad tunnel entrance and that would be even more difficult to spot on any kind of surveillance system. 
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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2014, 08:26:46 AM »
I rather think the approaches would still give it away, Jeff.  One of the things you cannot hide, except by misdirection are the taxiways and runways on an airstrip, even if they are disguised to look like roads.

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Re: Saab Viggen Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2014, 10:20:54 AM »
Paint the entrance pavement to look like RR tracks.

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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2014, 08:42:51 PM »
I rather think the approaches would still give it away, Jeff.  One of the things you cannot hide, except by misdirection are the taxiways and runways on an airstrip, even if they are disguised to look like roads.

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There was an article in one of the military aircraft magazines a couple of years ago or so which was about an exercise that had happened around there.  A bunker that was allowed to be photographed was just hacked into the mountain side along the highway