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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #100 on: November 06, 2015, 12:29:54 PM »
Now my Whiffing creative juices are flowing :-*, I think I need to pick up another (Hasegawa) TA-4 and give your idea a go (with my mods that is :))), but use Volkodav's idea of defensive detachments based on catapult equipped battleships, cruisers etc, could use codes and markings etc from A-4 air defense detachments that were assigned to the smaller USN ASW equipped Essex class carriers during the 1960's. 8) 8)
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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #101 on: November 06, 2015, 04:16:15 PM »
Now my Whiffing creative juices are flowing :-*, I think I need to pick up another (Hasegawa) TA-4 and give your idea a go (with my mods that is :))), but use Volkodav's idea of defensive detachments based on catapult equipped battleships, cruisers etc, could use codes and markings etc from A-4 air defense detachments that were assigned to the smaller USN ASW equipped Essex class carriers during the 1960's. 8) 8)



very good ! it will obviously be interesting to see it done your way  :)
I can admit that my style is a bit specific ;D

On the naval aircraft floatplanization side, I can also suggest the Tomcat, here in twin-floats but maybe adaptable to single float?






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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #102 on: November 07, 2015, 01:29:15 AM »
Delicious Tomcat! :-*
And this explains why the USAF did not buy the F-14: it is not a landplane at all! ;)

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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #103 on: November 07, 2015, 02:56:01 AM »
I'm thinking the F-14 would best stay with twin floats, you'd need a very big single float and you'd still need outrigger floats for stability on the water.

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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #104 on: November 07, 2015, 05:18:20 AM »
I like the floatplane F-14 :)
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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #105 on: November 07, 2015, 05:24:13 AM »
I'm thinking the F-14 would best stay with twin floats, you'd need a very big single float and you'd still need outrigger floats for stability on the water.

and these outrigger floats would need an orientation system because of the moving wings
(like the pods on Tornados and F111 I think?)


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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #106 on: November 07, 2015, 05:42:29 AM »
Because of high position of intakes the Skyhawk seaplane has some legitimacy :)

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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #107 on: November 12, 2015, 02:11:31 AM »

another one I had been thinking about for a long time, and recently at a show in my hometown I stumbled upon a classic Frog Gannet for 3 euros ... and I had this other Twin Otter float available.

So here it comes, in blue :







For outrigger floats, I use drop tanks : I find it looks nice, and it does have some root in the RW after all, as can be seen here :


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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #108 on: November 12, 2015, 02:50:32 AM »
Oddly attractive :)
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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #109 on: November 12, 2015, 09:06:23 AM »
Different take on a Gannet :) :)
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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #110 on: November 12, 2015, 12:31:40 PM »
The belly of the Gannet is so big, it seemed it already contained a float, but you are right: propellers' clearance requires a float far lower. Congratulations, engineer, no crash this way.

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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #111 on: November 13, 2015, 03:47:49 AM »
Might be interesting to take the Gannet a step further along the lines of the Grumman Duck or the Loening amphibians that preceeded it.

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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #112 on: November 13, 2015, 03:57:41 PM »

streamlining the float into the fuselage could look great indeed : someone has to try that  ;)

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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #113 on: November 14, 2015, 05:41:57 AM »
With a fully faired float you could make the weapons bay open from the sides of the fuselage under the wing and it could still be an ambhib. with landing/beaching gear in the extended float as well as carrying more fuel. :)
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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #114 on: November 14, 2015, 05:45:03 AM »
With a fully faired float you could make the weapons bay open from the sides of the fuselage under the wing and it could still be an ambhib. with landing/beaching gear in the extended float as well as carrying more fuel. :)

indeed !
and the Loening or Duck look is so particular, that it would suit the Gannet perfectly!

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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #115 on: November 15, 2015, 10:00:42 PM »
This concept was some truly inspired thinking!

I can only marvel at such genius!

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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #116 on: November 18, 2015, 05:03:55 AM »
thanks for your inspriring appreciation !

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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #117 on: November 26, 2015, 08:43:33 PM »

from a very old Airfix bagged kit of the Hawker Demon, I first did a twin-float version by adapting floats from a Letov S-328 (both kits I found for 2 euros each ...), and then, following a forum discussion, I decided to change for a single central float version (also because it offers me the possibility to proceed to one more floatplanization, as you will soon see  ;) )

and it does look like a Hawker Osprey indeed  ;D








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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #118 on: November 27, 2015, 03:04:31 AM »
elegant! :D

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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #119 on: November 27, 2015, 03:29:50 AM »
Beauty.  :)

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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #120 on: November 27, 2015, 03:36:11 AM »
thanks for the info !

I had found an Osprey like this :



and a Short competitor looking very similar :



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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #121 on: November 27, 2015, 03:49:42 AM »
 :)
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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #122 on: November 28, 2015, 05:25:18 PM »

central single floats are elegant indeed : there is more to come, soon, here !


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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #123 on: November 28, 2015, 08:00:20 PM »

central single floats are elegant indeed : there is more to come, soon, here !

Very elegant indeed.

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Re: Puma, red : primary seaplanes
« Reply #124 on: November 30, 2015, 05:29:47 AM »
another one :