Author Topic: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production  (Read 18347 times)

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I was surprised to see no dedicated topic to this widely used series of MBTs.

To start it off, a picture of a Achzarit IFV prototype based on the T54/55 with a heavy weapons station:




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dang, was hopeing to see some more on this one, I have a t55 from lindberg that has been sittin on the shelf.
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As explained elsewhere, I would like to do up an Achzarit as a '60s era Soviet heavy APC in full parade style scheme (all clean and shiny like):

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One could always go for something a tad more radical too…

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those are nice fellas but I was looking for something along the lines of "enigma" or some of those euro mods
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There's a T-55 in there…somewhere:

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There's a T-55 in there…somewhere:


That is one of the best upgrades I have yet to see for the T54/T55 series of vehicles.  Though the available space inside is still going to be limited.  Looks like additional armor was welded to the exterior of the turret and hull to create a cosmetic change in lieu of more major modifications to the hull and turret.  Still looks good regardless. 
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^ At first I thought this to be a movie prop. Sort of a T-55 VISMOD trying to masquerade for an M1 in some zombie flick. Turns out it is an actual prototype for the Jaguar (LINK), a joint Chinese-US (!) project from the 1980s.
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^ At first I thought this to be a movie prop. Sort of a T-55 VISMOD trying to masquerade for an M1 in some zombie flick. Turns out it is an actual prototype for the Jaguar (LINK), a joint Chinese-US (!) project from the 1980s.
Thanks for filling in the blanks Moritz.  I had seen most of the other upgrade proposals at one time or another but this one definitely a new one for me. 
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Romanian T-55.  New suspension, heavily modified turret with bustle ammunition stowage:



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Romanian T-55.

The upper picture is actually an early iteration of Al-Zarrar, a Pakistani-upgraded Type 59, which in turn is Chinese copy of T-54.
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Romanian T-55.

The upper picture is actually an early iteration of Al-Zarrar, a Pakistani-upgraded Type 59, which in turn is Chinese copy of T-54.

Correct!
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Yep, I got it wrong.  That's what happens when you're in a hurry...   :-[

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Not your granddad's T-55:  Peruvian/Ukrainian Tifon 2A proposal:




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This update adds in a new engine (1050hp multi-fuel supercharged diesel engine instead of 581 hp Diesel) giving it a top speed of 75 km/h.  The main armament is now the 125 mm KBM-1M 48 caliber smoothbore gun instead of the 100 mm D-10T2G or D-10T2 rifled tank gun.  The new gun is capable of firing both conventional ammunition and barrel-launched Kombat ATGMs. Also upgraded were the Fire Control System and sensor suite plus air conditioned system.  It also incorporated Deflek Ceramic special alloy steel armor, and Nosh explosive reactive armor.
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Another variant offered to Peru:  T-55 fire support version

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Not your granddad's T-55:  Peruvian/Ukrainian Tifon 2A proposal:
This update adds in a new engine (1050hp multi-fuel supercharged diesel engine instead of 581 hp Diesel) giving it a top speed of 75 km/h.  The main armament is now the 125 mm KBM-1M 48 caliber smoothbore gun instead of the 100 mm D-10T2G or D-10T2 rifled tank gun.  The new gun is capable of firing both conventional ammunition and barrel-launched Kombat ATGMs. Also upgraded were the Fire Control System and sensor suite plus air conditioned system.  It also incorporated Deflek Ceramic special alloy steel armor, and Nosh explosive reactive armor.
Another variant offered to Peru:  T-55 fire support version

Hopefully the "show room" examples are true examples of the end product and not just a one-off to establish interest amongst potential customers.  That being said, both of these vehicles are very good examples of how a complete rebuild and modernization program could achieve a near new vehicle from older vehicles that still have plenty of potential for continued service. 
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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2014, 12:32:22 PM »
bmp-55
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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2014, 02:57:58 AM »
More info?
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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2014, 03:12:10 AM »
The BMP-55 heavy APC is a Ukrainian conversion of T-55 tank

Click on html or thumbnail to view linked page. 


(Image source: Military-Today.com)

Not very different from the German Marder in layout.

Link to search results for BMP-55
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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2014, 04:47:29 AM »
there's also an IFV called the BMP-64, based on the T-64 chassis
http://photo.qip.ru/users/coast70/150430655/

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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2014, 04:55:35 AM »
there's also an IFV called the BMP-64, based on the T-64 chassis
http://photo.qip.ru/users/coast70/150430655/
There is mention of and links to the BMP-64 in the link I shared in my post above
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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2014, 12:32:13 PM »
I'm sorry bmp-55 is not as descriptive as " there's a t-55 in there somewhere " 😜
I was lookin for t-55 conversion kits for something to do with the Lindbergh (?) kit I built back when I was I high school when I came across this. My apologies for my computer- foo for not being as good as some of yall😄
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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2014, 02:25:20 AM »
If one wanted to do a build of the BMP-55, one might use an Achzarit APC kit as a starting point.
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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2014, 02:39:50 AM »
I dunno Greg; there are significant differences between the two:





Here's a  Puma, for comparison:



The upper hull is very different between the Achzarit and the BMP-55 and the road wheels are different , drive wheels may be different.
It may be easier (and a lot cheaper) to start with the lower hull from a Trumpeter T-54/T-55 kit (reviews here: http://www.missing-lynx.com/reviews/modern/trumpt55.htm) and scratch build the upper hull.

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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2014, 02:45:33 AM »
Slightly off topic, there's also the BMPT-64K


3. IFV-64-К.wmv

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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2014, 03:55:19 AM »
I dunno Greg; there are significant differences between the two:





Here's a  Puma, for comparison:



The upper hull is very different between the Achzarit and the BMP-55 and the road wheels are different , drive wheels may be different.
It may be easier (and a lot cheaper) to start with the lower hull from a Trumpeter T-54/T-55 kit (reviews here: http://www.missing-lynx.com/reviews/modern/trumpt55.htm) and scratch build the upper hull.


If you look closely at the two pics check out where the drive sprockets are located. The Achzarit has the drive sprockets in the rear as the T -55 tank was built. The BMP 55 has the drive sprocket in the front indicating the vehicle drives in the reverse direction. This makes good sense as it opens up the rear (formerly the front) of the tank for troop entry and exit.

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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2014, 09:30:20 AM »
Reversing the drive train is far more sensible than the Azcharit's where the passengers have to basically crawl along a tunnel, over the rear drive shaft and then out of the vehicle.  Like the Temsah conversion of the Centurion, it basically frees the now rear of the vehicle for a full height/width ramp, making inbush/debuss quicker and easier.

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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2014, 10:56:17 AM »
Also by moving the engine to the front it gives a little more protection to the occupants from a frontal shot.
I wonder if its the basic T-54/55 engine in the BMP-55 or something new.

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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2014, 02:00:46 PM »
I didn't read it thoroughly but I'm pretty sure I noticed the article saying that they had fitted a new power plant to improve power & fuel economy.
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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2014, 10:13:17 AM »
I wonder if its the basic T-54/55 engine in the BMP-55 or something new.

Most sources list the 700 hp Malyshev 5TDF horizontally-opposed diesel (which originally powered the T-64).
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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2015, 10:27:38 PM »
 Found some pictures of an Iraqi Type 69 conversion with the 125mm 2A46 from a T-72,  the Iraqis managed to stuff the gun and auto-loader into the turret and had to raise the turret roof.




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Swapping turrets between T-55 and Super Sherman M-51

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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2021, 08:42:03 AM »
What if T-55 122 (2 flavours) and T-55 125?

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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2021, 09:16:47 PM »
For our purposes, this 14.5mm cupola setup looks ripe to transplant.

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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2022, 02:14:47 AM »
I am reminded of one of those Wile Coyote "back to the drawing board" style scenes... ;D  Where did we go wrong?
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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2022, 08:12:45 AM »
Fire, Fire, Fire !

Chinese T-34 with flame-throwers to disperse fog in battle - also added to T-54s.  Believe this was originally a Russian idea.

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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2022, 01:35:03 PM »
Yep, that'd work!

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« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2022, 01:12:18 PM »
There was recently a piece of news about Leopard 2 tanks driving "over" Finnish conscripts in a confidence building drill. Back when I did it, it was a T-54 or T-55. There were two parts to it. First we were prone in line and we were actually under the tank, then we were in line with a tread and rolled to the side when it was pretty close.

Looks like other treaded vehicles have been used too:


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Confirmed. Some have bra armor, some turret-front ERA. https://twitter.com/i/status/1529404520828133380

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Some have bra armor,


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Couldn't help myself:

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I'm sure it looks lovely on you . . .   :-*


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Well...
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Well...

far too small for a 55-T bra ;D

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T-54 Model 1949, supposedly used in the defense of the Azovstal steelworks in Mariupol.








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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2022, 11:50:30 PM »
Eritrean wreck. That really looks like a 14.5mm KPV mount over the 100mm main gun.
 

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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2022, 10:05:26 AM »
More Funky Sovietry.  If successful, the main gun would need boresighting.

https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2022/12/04/soviet-zet-1-system-for-protection-against-heat-shells/

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Re: T-44, T-54, and T-55 MBT series vehicles, including foreign production
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2022, 11:17:27 AM »
Ukrainian T55 turret on a T64 hull
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rX2FF2IXqs