Author Topic: Stuka musings  (Read 24932 times)

Offline sequoiaranger

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Stuka W/bomb-bay
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2012, 11:03:27 PM »
>>I love the idea of a stuka with a bomb bay!!
Yes! That in itself cleans the lines up a good bit, doesn't it?<<

That was kind of the point---take the "Stuka" look and take some of the angles and "awkwardness" out of it. The Suisei provided the smooth ventral contours and integrated lines from the intake back, and the Corsair wings still had that "cranked" look but gained "softer" contours, recessed oil coolers, and allowed retractable landing gear. The only other change was elimination of the "retro" support strut for the tailplane (taken off the later Bf-109s as well). 

Also the idea was that this hybrid could be a "common" dive bomber for all Axis carrier forces in the Pacific (OF COURSE there were German carriers in the Pacific!!  :)  ). The Suisei was the fastest plane in Pacific skies for a while, but could not carry a larger bomb load than the fixed-landing gear "Val" it replaced (other than the bolted-on larger bombs on Kamikaze Suiseis). The Stuka was slow, but could carry a whopper bomb. So...cleaning up the Stuka made it fast enough to please the Japanese, and it could carry larger bombs, too!

PS--one of my future whifs will be a "Suisei-Kai"--a slightly larger version of the Suisei that WILL carry larger bombs (basically a Ryusei "Grace" retro-fitted with a low-wing and Suisei front end and cockpit.)
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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2012, 05:17:27 AM »
Out of interest, the original contenders for what became the Stuka:



I actually find the He118 (seen below again) the most attractive.

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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2012, 06:12:18 AM »
you have to wonder how much the He118 shares in ancestry with the He70?  An up-engined He70 might make for another good competitor.

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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2012, 07:13:05 AM »
I have also always liked the Ju87C:






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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2012, 06:52:49 AM »
A simple colour change.

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Remember: "Stukas" can be almost ANYTHING
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2012, 02:33:51 PM »
Technically, the He-177 FOUR-ENGINED BOMBER was a "Stuka", as it was "told" it would be used as a dive-bomber!!
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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2012, 06:24:37 PM »
Simple but effective.
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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2012, 09:38:19 AM »
Not really a Stuka but...


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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2012, 10:54:06 AM »
Fabric wings.  I bought the Italeri kit when it was first released with the intention of converting it to the cloth winged variant. ;D ;D :o :-\ :-* >:D >:D
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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2012, 05:14:24 PM »
a really nice winter Stuka model Geoff, iv always had a hankering to build the Special Hobby A kit in pre war dazzle scheme just for fun.

An almost real what if too, the Stuka was one aircraft specifically mentioned during Hitlers visit to Mannerhiem, indeed theres a famous photograph of the two leaders with a presentation model of the aircraft on the Finnish leaders desk, a birthday gift from der Furher along with a specially fitted out Steyr command car

German operated Stukas were based in Finland during the Continuation war, so again a very plausible 'might have been'

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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2012, 03:46:13 AM »
Thank you.

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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2012, 01:57:46 AM »
For those who may not be following my "Stealing the Stuka" tale in the stories section, here's a little sketch I did yesterday of a cleaned up Stuka descendant from Argentina; the FMA Garza:

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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2012, 11:46:27 PM »
Another Jap Stuka.....


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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2012, 11:54:58 PM »
nearly forgot my `Jet` one.......


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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2012, 01:38:39 AM »
the Jap Stuka would be a nice model to do -- can we have a colour pic ? the green with silver chips would look very fetching on this airframe.

I was recently into doing the RW captured US fighters (Corsair & Hellcat etc).

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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2015, 03:21:59 AM »

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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2015, 05:00:46 AM »
Random idea:  Ilmavoimat Ju-87 with skis
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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2015, 05:25:45 AM »
Random idea:  Ilmavoimat Ju-87 with skis
In winter camouflage, of course.

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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2015, 05:43:11 AM »
Well lookie here:

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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2015, 10:16:12 AM »
Add skis and overpaint the green with white?

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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2015, 12:51:56 PM »
Adding skis to a Stuka would be a breeze. Just use spatless gear legs and make the ski attachment points to fit the existing wheel forks.
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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2015, 02:31:30 AM »
Adding skis to a Stuka would be a breeze. Just use spatless gear legs and make the ski attachment points to fit the existing wheel forks.


Or just buy a kit... ;)



This gives an idea of how the skis look:


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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #47 on: September 04, 2015, 02:39:45 AM »
But where's the fun in that?  ;D
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Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #48 on: September 04, 2015, 05:57:04 AM »
How about some ski-equipped Finnish Stukas escorted by "volunteer" Swedish ski-equipped CR-42s?

Re: Stuka musings
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2015, 01:51:18 AM »
How about some ski-equipped Finnish Stukas escorted by "volunteer" Swedish ski-equipped CR-42s?

Or some Gladiators.





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