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Title: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 05, 2012, 06:13:01 PM
Hi folks,

Does anyone know if there is a kit (preferably in 1/35) of the Israeli Spike missile?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/SPIKE_ATGM.jpg)

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: Maverick on July 05, 2012, 08:38:24 PM
Given the lack of ATGWs in 35th scale beyond the usual TOWs, Milans & Russian weapons, I'd say no.  That said, it doesn't look that complicated from a shape point of view & some careful scrutiny of the spares box should reveal parts to make a decent enough replica.

Regards,

John
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on July 12, 2012, 03:12:28 AM
There are a couple of TOW ATGM shapes included in the one AFV Club Stryker ITV kit that has the TOW turret.  Not sure if the Trumpeter kit has this included or not but having the AFV Club kit here in hand I was surprised to see the missile shapes included since these things are usually just a blur when seen in flight and good luck trying to model the guide wires trailing out of the back end of the missile. 

If you are keen on modeling the SPIKE, I would suggest finding the dimensions for the missile and then look for something of suitable length and diameter to use as a stand in for the missile.  This could end up as just a plastic rod shaped to resemble the SPIKE or maybe a couple of similar size in diameter missile shapes glued end to end to get the desired length.  Considering the fact that the missile in question is not normally seen outside of the sealed launch tube you might be able to get away with using a MILAN, HOT, Dragon, or TOW launch tube with different end caps to get your desired results. 
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 03, 2014, 05:18:54 PM
Does anyone have any good references for the Malkara missile?  (see below)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Hornet_Malkara_img_2361.jpg)

Also, does anyone know if there were any Commonwealth ATGWs before the Malkara?
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: jcf on June 04, 2014, 02:57:56 AM
Flight Archive.

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1959/1959%20-%202925.html (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1959/1959%20-%202925.html)

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1960/1960%20-%200815.html (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1960/1960%20-%200815.html)

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1960/1960%20-%202537.html (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1960/1960%20-%202537.html)

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1967/1967%20-%202175.html (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1967/1967%20-%202175.html)

More results, searching Malkara 1958-1968:
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/search.aspx?ArchiveSearchForm:search=malkara&page=2&ArchiveSearchForm:fromYear=1958&ArchiveSearchForm:toYear=1968 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/search.aspx?ArchiveSearchForm:search=malkara&page=2&ArchiveSearchForm:fromYear=1958&ArchiveSearchForm:toYear=1968)

It was a big-ass ATGM.




Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: Rickshaw on June 04, 2014, 08:36:22 AM
It is also the only ATGM which was transformed into a SAM.  It had a comparatively massive warhead and was huge for a system intended for airborne use.   Not many MBTs, let alone heavy tanks would survive a hit from one.  Quite expensive too, by all accounts.  The only kit I'm aware of is in an odd 1/40 scale by a Japanese manufacturer (Bandai?) from the 1960s.
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: jcf on June 04, 2014, 12:35:44 PM
Adams did a series of 1/40th scale armour kits in the fifties and Revell did some aircraft.
It isn't really an 'odd-scale' as it was/is a common scale in aerospace and engineering.
It actually would have made a sensible standardized scale for vehicle and aircraft models.




Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 24, 2016, 05:26:25 AM
Something different:  The Hungarian 44M dupla panceltoroveto (Buzoganyveto - "Mace"):

(http://i58.fastpic.ru/big/2013/1029/00/e149fa1cc7ffe00f6c2213586230a400.jpg)
(http://i60.fastpic.ru/big/2013/1029/33/7614873e5b34a048d838dd4039dcb233.jpg)
(http://i58.fastpic.ru/big/2013/1029/0f/b5d2c7d17d323f77c70fa1ef6959390f.jpg)

I seem to recall these featuring in one of the Red Gambit series of novels.
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 04, 2016, 03:24:04 AM
One that I wouldn't mind modelling one day - the MGM-166 LOSAT.  It was proposed/came in multiple formats of launcher:

(http://www.army-technology.com/projects/losat/images/3_hmmwv_anti-tank.jpg)
(http://www.army-technology.com/projects/losat/images/2_hmmwv_anti-tank.jpg)
(http://www.army-technology.com/projects/losat/images/losat10.jpg)
(http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/images/losat5.jpg)
(http://www.army-technology.com/projects/losat/images/losat9.jpg)

(http://russian-tanks.com/img/a_4_99.jpg)
(http://russian-tanks.com/img/a_4_98.jpg)
(http://russian-tanks.com/img/a_4_100.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xWeyw6d.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ySGefm3.jpg)
(http://s18.postimg.org/bo8x12yah/maxresdefault.png)
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: LemonJello on April 04, 2016, 08:00:30 PM
One that I wouldn't mind modelling one day - the MGM-166 LOSAT.  It was proposed/came in multiple formats of launcher:

([url]http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/images/losat5.jpg[/url])

([url]http://s18.postimg.org/bo8x12yah/maxresdefault.png[/url])


Adding these two to the idea stockpile. 
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on October 03, 2022, 01:42:04 AM
Armoured Archives > FV4010 Malkara - Tank Design & Development.  First installment in a multi-part series on development of the Malkara ATGM. 
YouTube link: FV4010 Malkara - Tank Design & Development (https://youtu.be/Pp24zqMaUTY)
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 03, 2022, 05:21:16 AM
Armoured Archives > FV4010 Malkara - Tank Design & Development.  First installment in a multi-part series on development of the Malkara ATGM. 
YouTube link: FV4010 Malkara - Tank Design & Development (https://youtu.be/Pp24zqMaUTY)

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: Rickshaw on November 14, 2022, 12:51:44 PM
I cannot find the existing thread on this vehicle.  I thought these drawings would be of interest:

(http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/pix/uk_fv1620-001z.jpg)
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 15, 2022, 12:45:32 AM
Above post merged into this
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: ChernayaAkula on December 04, 2022, 10:18:30 AM
HOT ATGM on Wiesel.

(https://www.army-technology.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2017/09/hot9.jpg)
SOURCE (https://www.army-technology.com/projects/hot/)

"Wall-E has had enough of your bullsh!t!"  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Anti-Tank Missiles
Post by: Old Wombat on December 04, 2022, 07:21:55 PM
 ;D ;D ;D