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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => In the Service of Her Majesty GB => Topic started by: MAT on October 30, 2022, 07:47:56 PM

Title: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on October 30, 2022, 07:47:56 PM
The P.1202-9 were a studie put forward by Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) in 1977/78 as an answer to the requirements in AST.403 for a successor to the Harriers and Jaguars of RAF. A long line of proposals from various aircraft producers led in the end to the building of the EAP and the Eurofighter Typhoon, which entered service in RAF in 2006 - 29 years after AST.403 was originaly submitted.

But what if RAF had overruled the mandarins of Whitehall and ordered the P.1202-9 into production?

The Hawker Siddeley P.1202-9 ”Hobby” entered squadron service in the autum of 1984. The plane were named af the Hobby (Falco subbuteo) which is a very swift falcon nesting in Southern England. Then some argentine generals and admirals made the mistake of their lives in 1982. After the recapture of The Falkland Islands, Britain needed a strong air defence  on the islands to ensure, that there would be no repetition. So in the winter 1984-85 a flight of Hobby's arrived  af RAF Mount Pleasant.

The model in scale 1/72 will be based on an old f-16 kit from Idea in the ”wrong scale” of  1/48 and the sadly remains of a PM Models F-16, which did lose its wings to a Douglas XF-3A conversion.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 31, 2022, 01:42:41 AM
Image for those unfamiliar:

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/P.1202.png)
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: robunos on October 31, 2022, 06:25:15 AM
This should be good . . . 


cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on October 31, 2022, 03:39:24 PM
That's the one. Here on page 269 in"British Secret Projects: Jet Fighters since 1950" by Tony Buttler.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on October 31, 2022, 03:43:28 PM
And here are the pieces, which would eventually by hard work, a lot of PSR and mayby some witchcraft be turned into the P.1202-9
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on October 31, 2022, 03:47:27 PM
 The beginning
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on October 31, 2022, 04:22:29 PM
The first cut is the deepest. The 1/48 fuselage is too wide and to high. So it has to be trimmed.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on October 31, 2022, 04:24:51 PM
And by the way: The intake is not at the right place and don't have the right size. And the fuselage i too long. So, more cut, cut, cut .......
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on October 31, 2022, 11:43:04 PM
The 1/48 fuselage cut and glued to the approximate dimensions. Ahead lies some more fumbling with card, glue and hours of PSR.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: ChernayaAkula on November 03, 2022, 11:01:23 AM
Whoa!  :icon_surprised: That's a first! I've NEVER seen an F-16 kit's fuselage split that way.  :icon_surprised:

Interesting project!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 03, 2022, 05:50:25 PM
With the help of some plasticard and a lot of sanding is the 1/48 fuselage transformed into the aftfuselage of the 1/72 P.1202-9
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 03, 2022, 05:54:11 PM
Now the its time for adding the 1/72 F-16 front fuselage to the 1/48 F-16 aft fuselage. Looks like it's possible to make it fit.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 03, 2022, 05:55:32 PM
First testfit - looks like we got a match
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: Frank3k on November 04, 2022, 12:44:47 AM
With surgery like that, you're in almost pure scratchbuilding territory! It's looking good.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 09, 2022, 06:16:22 PM
The 1/72 front fuselage is now attached to the 1/48 rear fuselage. And the first phase of the PSR have been started.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 09, 2022, 06:21:08 PM
And now for something completely different: The wings.

The wingspan of the 1/48 F-16 is precisely the same as the 1/72 P.1202-9. And the angle of the leading edge is the same too. But the trailing edge has to be modified.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 09, 2022, 06:22:59 PM
The wings are now cut to the new form and sanded to the correct profile.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: Kerick on November 10, 2022, 12:13:21 AM
Nice work on that fuselage! Carry on!
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 15, 2022, 05:46:49 AM
Now it's time to do something to the void in the bottom of the fuselage.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 15, 2022, 05:50:30 AM
The inlet need to be reshaped. So more cutting and rearranging of the pieces, and a well for the nosewheel is added.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 15, 2022, 05:54:55 AM
The RB 431-14R engine need an exhaust. With some PSR the 1/48 F-16 exhaust might work out.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: apophenia on November 16, 2022, 01:42:38 AM
Great stuff MAT! This is turning into a truly epic kit bash  :smiley:
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 17, 2022, 07:20:29 PM
The exhaust is finished and ready to give the P.1202-9 a hefty push
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 17, 2022, 07:21:55 PM
The intake is also done and filled with some lead to prevent tailsitting
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 17, 2022, 07:26:19 PM
Now it's time to do the tailplanes. They used to be the wings of a F-5E, that had ended up on my scrapyard
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: Robomog on November 17, 2022, 07:57:53 PM
There's some lovely plastic surgery going on here  :smiley:

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: robunos on November 18, 2022, 05:46:01 AM
This is just getting better and better . . .   :smiley:


cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 19, 2022, 07:39:42 PM
The tail fins are coming into shape, They used to be the tail planes of a MiG-23, which lost its wings to the build of a Messerschmitt P.1102/105.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 19, 2022, 07:41:12 PM
The intake have been glued to the rest of the fuselage and blended in with a lot of PSR.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 19, 2022, 07:55:41 PM
The wings have now been added and I'm getting closer to the paint phase. Originally I would had placed the P.1020-9 on The Falklands in the late 1980's/ early 1990's and envisaged it painted in the two colour grey camo as seen on EE lightnings. But lately weird and disturbing pictures have sneaked into my dreams, and I have started to imagine export orders from Canada (dark green/dark grey top/light grey bottom) og Australia (multi coloured SEA scheme) - And what about the Kiwis?
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 22, 2022, 07:36:29 PM
The airframe of the HS P.1202-9 have been moved to the Assembly Hall. And it seems like all the pieces fit together - Relief  :smiley:
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: robunos on November 23, 2022, 05:56:07 AM
This is just . . .   :smiley:   :smiley:   :smiley:   :smiley:


cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: Robomog on November 23, 2022, 03:53:19 PM
That came together well  :smiley: :smiley:

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: apophenia on November 24, 2022, 02:19:53 AM
Well, that is just chock-full of all kinds of awesomeness  :smiley: :smiley:

... envisaged it painted in the two colour grey camo as seen on EE lightnings...

Temptations aside, that Lightning scheme of Medium Sea Grey and Barley Grey would really suit your P.1020-9!
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 25, 2022, 05:34:57 AM
I too felt, that the grey Lightning scheme would really suit the P.1020-9 But I opted for the darker version of Dark Sea Grey top and Medium Sea Grey bottom, as I thought that there would be too little contrast between the greys and the pink/light blue Roundels.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: finsrin on November 25, 2022, 07:23:41 AM
Good call on colors  :smiley:
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: apophenia on November 25, 2022, 09:54:26 AM
Good call on colors  :smiley:

Indeed! The DSG over MSG looks really good ... and sets off the lo-vis roundels  :smiley:
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 29, 2022, 06:21:51 PM
Paintjob is finished and Decals added. Looks like I gonna make it in time for the Deadline
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 29, 2022, 06:26:30 PM
I did use some low-vis Roundels larger than the ones used on the Lightnings, Tornados, Jaguars etc., as I felt. that the low-vis Roundels became almost un-vis on such a large Plane.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: Buzzbomb on November 30, 2022, 05:15:02 AM
Prolifically excellent build
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: robunos on November 30, 2022, 05:55:18 AM
Paintjob is finished and Decals added. Looks like I gonna make it in time for the Deadline


I'm sure an extension can be arranged, should you need it . . .


cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: Kerick on November 30, 2022, 12:57:00 PM
This looks awesome!! Clearly a should have been built design!
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 30, 2022, 06:58:30 PM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: Robomog on November 30, 2022, 07:15:39 PM
Stunning build  :-* :-*

 Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on November 30, 2022, 09:29:17 PM
Now the P.1202-9 got wheels to stand on. And I think, that I will make it before my own deadline. I have about a week until my house will be filled with kids and grandkids, as we are to celebrate my mothers 96 years birthday.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: Jonesthetank on November 30, 2022, 10:23:07 PM
Mat,

Absolutely astounding!  I wish I could get a kit straight out of the box to that level of finish.

Good luck with the birthday celebrations

Mark
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: Kerick on December 01, 2022, 02:12:40 PM
How about an Israeli one with conformal fuel tanks, a fuselage hump and lumps and bumps?
I have a plan to convert a F-16XL to that but yours would be awesome!
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on December 01, 2022, 03:57:59 PM
Quote
How about an Israeli one with conformal fuel tanks, a fuselage hump and lumps and bumps?
I have a plan to convert a F-16XL to that but yours would be awesome!

Yes. That would be awesome - but then the P.1202-9 would not be In the Service of Her Majesty. Unless we rewrite history, so the British Mandate turns into a british Colony! And stays that way until at least after 6 february 1952  ;) Maybe an Idea for an other build !!!
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: finsrin on December 01, 2022, 05:27:12 PM
Dang -- Sooo real world,,,  must be  :smiley:
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: tsrjoe on December 02, 2022, 12:21:41 AM
very nice work on the 1202, looks really good  8)
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on December 02, 2022, 09:07:40 PM
P.1202-9 with stuff under the wings - Armed and dangerous
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: Old Wombat on December 02, 2022, 10:48:33 PM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 03, 2022, 07:03:33 PM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: The Rat on December 04, 2022, 02:56:01 AM
That's the business!
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: apophenia on December 06, 2022, 05:49:34 AM
Wow! That is gorgeous MAT  :smiley:
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: robunos on December 06, 2022, 06:37:04 AM
That really is an excellent Build, you wouldn't know it wasn't built straight from a kit . . .   :smiley:
Don't forget to post some images in the Gallery Thread.


cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: MAT on December 06, 2022, 06:57:07 AM
Ready for take-off
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: finsrin on December 06, 2022, 08:21:26 AM
Very photogenic  :smiley:
Title: Re: Hawker Siddeley (Kingston) P.1202-9 ”Hobby”
Post by: Gingie on December 08, 2022, 02:54:28 AM
First testfit - looks like we got a match

MAGIC!