Beyond The Sprues

Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Sea => Topic started by: 35th-scale on December 27, 2016, 11:08:39 PM

Title: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on December 27, 2016, 11:08:39 PM

Britain’s Type 23 Duke Class frigates were originally envisioned as pure anti-submarine vessels, to the extent of being planned with no other armament. The 1982 Falklands War quickly put paid to that idea, however, and the Type 23s would end up being commissioned from 1989-2001 and fitted with a main gun, Sea Wolf short range anti-air missiles, and Harpoon anti-ship missiles to accompany her torpedoes, decoys, et. al. These changes turned the frigates from specialized sub-hunters into versatile multi-role combatants that play a key role in the British fleet.

This is the Trumpeter kit HMS Westminster which I manages to pickup at SMW kit swap for an extremely reasonable £20. Then discovered in the box there was a replacement main gun from White Ensigns also.

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/002D9738-190B-48CF-8485-723691D202CD_zpsb9gcktvo.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/002D9738-190B-48CF-8485-723691D202CD_zpsb9gcktvo.jpg.html)

The kit has a nice piece of PE, on the left, but I also got the bigger set from Atlantic Models.
(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/3B6A453B-04A7-4AE3-8EC3-3888AB877DBE_zpsjqj8ja4o.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/3B6A453B-04A7-4AE3-8EC3-3888AB877DBE_zpsjqj8ja4o.jpg.html)

Started with the hull and main superstructure pieces. All crisply molded and fit is excellent. So far just dry fitted the superstructure.

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/1FA44DE2-94CA-4283-9403-A7BABDF36AC3_zpschsrwmgz.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/1FA44DE2-94CA-4283-9403-A7BABDF36AC3_zpschsrwmgz.jpg.html)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Volkodav on December 28, 2016, 06:03:47 PM

Watching with interest as I have this kit, which I plan to complete as an RAN Type 23 ANZAC using Veteran Models USN bits.

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on December 30, 2016, 08:43:39 AM

I like Veterans stuff but you'll also need a good PE set. The kit has no railings at all...,

I used the kit PE for the "nest" but Atlantic Models set for the yard-arms. The AM set is a little easier to work with....but not a lot 😳

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/852BF69A-E4FF-441E-81A5-B6CA73C47241_zpssg8ppsq1.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/852BF69A-E4FF-441E-81A5-B6CA73C47241_zpssg8ppsq1.jpg.html)

This is going to be very slow going....but I trust will be worth it in the end

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Buzzbomb on January 01, 2017, 05:47:07 PM

wow !  That is an extremely interesting ship.
Watching on with interest

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Volkodav on January 01, 2017, 08:34:46 PM

The PE really makes a difference

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Brian da Basher on January 02, 2017, 10:31:08 AM

Wow that is some impressive PE!

I can only commend the patience that stuff takes. I call it photo-retch I hate dealing with it so much. My few attempts always end out looking like some kind of twisted Calder sculpture.

Awesome work!

Brian da Basher

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on January 02, 2017, 07:53:53 PM

Thanks Gents. I used be like that Brian but all it takes us practice and patience....

Primed the enclosed fan deck, added the nets and a missing hatch using the spares on the Atlantic PE set. But once it's closed up nothing will really be visible, but I'll know it's there.....😀Sometimes I wonder at the lengths we go to.

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/E9925FB5-C6B6-4E6A-8DA6-110760D2258F_zpsz9l7831k.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/E9925FB5-C6B6-4E6A-8DA6-110760D2258F_zpsz9l7831k.jpg.html)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on January 02, 2017, 07:59:23 PM

These are the only tools I used to do the PE. No fancy expensive hold and fold, just a tweezers with a straight edge and where the two arms sit flush for the length, not just at the tip, if you know what I mean.

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/6560FF5A-4B00-4D52-B644-0B569F1C9B03_zpslsd0xdza.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/6560FF5A-4B00-4D52-B644-0B569F1C9B03_zpslsd0xdza.jpg.html)

And so I can see what I'm actually doing, with 2.5 magnification

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/A727DA53-2EFA-461B-B532-6D5C7D19CB1E_zpsc56ngtqc.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/A727DA53-2EFA-461B-B532-6D5C7D19CB1E_zpsc56ngtqc.jpg.html)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: The Big Gimper on January 03, 2017, 01:36:42 AM

For me PE = Physical Exhaustion trying to glue the little buggers on.

Kudo's to those who can use PE.

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on January 22, 2017, 07:24:20 PM

Back at it. 2nd mast:

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/8C3F3FB8-0C0C-4BA9-8ED9-B963349113AE_zpskvdnd4x7.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/8C3F3FB8-0C0C-4BA9-8ED9-B963349113AE_zpskvdnd4x7.jpg.html)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on January 23, 2017, 01:14:39 AM

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/BE281B25-D588-4D92-B9B1-6DD5D3E403B9_zpssvofcybw.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/BE281B25-D588-4D92-B9B1-6DD5D3E403B9_zpssvofcybw.jpg.html)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Brian da Basher on January 23, 2017, 02:11:10 AM

That's some mightily impressive PE work!

Every time I play with PE it ends out looking like brass origami done by someone with a seizure disorder.  :icon_crap:

Great stuff and thanks for the update!

Brian da Basher

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on January 23, 2017, 04:22:21 AM

It's far from perfect Brian, but thanks

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/77D9F514-852D-4724-B389-E24CDED8E683_zpsfrq8xe2d.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/77D9F514-852D-4724-B389-E24CDED8E683_zpsfrq8xe2d.jpg.html)

That's that mast done!

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Old Wombat on January 23, 2017, 04:02:59 PM

Some very good work being done here, mate! :) :)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on January 30, 2017, 08:01:06 AM

Thanks Wombat

After being adrift for a while I managed to get it primed. Kept the second mast off for ease of painting. Sorry I didn't think of that before doing the first too....

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/FA277739-DF14-4B72-8C1B-298D4CD1F12D_zpskn6155be.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/FA277739-DF14-4B72-8C1B-298D4CD1F12D_zpskn6155be.jpg.html)

Next up paint and then mask the decks

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on February 12, 2017, 09:22:19 AM

Masking, the one step in this hobby I really dislike

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/BED207B4-977B-4C1F-93D7-67B5A5CEDF86_zpskkldabze.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/BED207B4-977B-4C1F-93D7-67B5A5CEDF86_zpskkldabze.jpg.html)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Volkodav on February 12, 2017, 10:44:01 AM

Looking good!

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on February 13, 2017, 05:20:07 PM

Cheers Volkodav

Decks fully masked and the hull and superstructure painted. Need to build a jig now to hold her upside down to do the hull red and boot line while protecting that mast

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/7AFAFC41-9857-43D2-8860-95CF6DA59477_zpsw5izxe6u.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/7AFAFC41-9857-43D2-8860-95CF6DA59477_zpsw5izxe6u.jpg.html)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Volkodav on February 13, 2017, 05:56:38 PM

Can't wait to see the finished product.

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Old Wombat on February 14, 2017, 05:32:38 PM

Quote from: 35th-scale on February 12, 2017, 09:22:19 AM

Masking, the one step in this hobby I really dislike

I concur! :icon_crap:

Quote from: Volkodav on February 13, 2017, 05:56:38 PM

Can't wait to see the finished product.

& agree wholeheartedly! :)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on March 03, 2017, 04:12:13 AM

I have been neglecting this for a few weeks as I flipped between projects. Was having difficulty with painting and needed to spend some time just cutting plastic and gluing, but that's for another thread. HMS Westminster is back on the bench now though

2nd coat about to go on....

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/854AF38D-2E35-478B-8181-CC11845A5BA1_zpsfdes2y8t.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/854AF38D-2E35-478B-8181-CC11845A5BA1_zpsfdes2y8t.jpg.html)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on March 03, 2017, 03:30:37 PM

Boot line applied. Almost afraid to take the tape off..... 😀

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/26471A5A-BA46-4116-9452-19DE24A7F642_zpserwayynk.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/26471A5A-BA46-4116-9452-19DE24A7F642_zpserwayynk.jpg.html)

At least now I can start adding all the tiny bits

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on March 04, 2017, 09:20:05 AM

That didn't work out as planned 😟

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/F47AFB5D-B153-404C-8ABE-A4697449DCC1_zpsprigjndr.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/F47AFB5D-B153-404C-8ABE-A4697449DCC1_zpsprigjndr.jpg.html)

I can see this getting set aside for a while

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Old Wombat on March 05, 2017, 05:49:29 PM

Oh dear! :icon_crap:

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Buzzbomb on March 06, 2017, 10:33:47 AM

That is either.. gaarrr ! dammit  or

Way cool for a ship that is heading back to dry dock for an A service.
If you tried to get that sort of effect for well worn paint, sure as eggs it would not come out that good

Still pretty sure you will do a smack up job of rescuing it.

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on March 19, 2017, 05:29:13 AM

Hull has been repaired but needs some touch ups. And the masking is off the decks. That didn't come out as bad but still needs little tip up jobs.

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/1F57AF09-6131-4C6C-B8C3-483C5BCA4DE9_zpskjsr4ubq.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/1F57AF09-6131-4C6C-B8C3-483C5BCA4DE9_zpskjsr4ubq.jpg.html)

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/D9C67ACC-C324-4ED2-B617-EADEBCA7DDF2_zps10bdb1bh.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/D9C67ACC-C324-4ED2-B617-EADEBCA7DDF2_zps10bdb1bh.jpg.html)

All painting from here will be with a good old hairy stick.

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Buzzbomb on March 27, 2017, 07:25:47 AM

Yep.. back on track

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on April 16, 2017, 09:46:47 PM

So from here it's going to be a 22 shades of grey build....

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/1D2AB072-C423-482A-9F55-18253D04B3C3_zpsw4b7fnbv.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/1D2AB072-C423-482A-9F55-18253D04B3C3_zpsw4b7fnbv.jpg.html)

Starting to prepare all the little bits

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/B63E6935-8AAE-4B32-B555-C9D069AC2345_zps10qtdauj.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/B63E6935-8AAE-4B32-B555-C9D069AC2345_zps10qtdauj.jpg.html)

The Harpoons require major surgery to fit the PE stands
(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/55721283-D92E-4D20-A6A4-559B9F7A7F7A_zpsh5zrjvvp.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/55721283-D92E-4D20-A6A4-559B9F7A7F7A_zpsh5zrjvvp.jpg.html)
(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/80CC4678-F83E-491F-98FE-3062228A66A4_zpsunsw7prf.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/80CC4678-F83E-491F-98FE-3062228A66A4_zpsunsw7prf.jpg.html)
(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/BB7035BD-CB09-4C20-BA31-D1B2BF8C752F_zpsle5b9cqq.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/BB7035BD-CB09-4C20-BA31-D1B2BF8C752F_zpsle5b9cqq.jpg.html)

But they do make a big difference. You can also see the difference between the kit 5" and the White Ensigns resin & metal replacement.

And the RIBs with Atlantic Models PE added

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/3E01186A-F13A-46B5-9201-C1DBF5B1B4B8_zpsaa556dxw.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/3E01186A-F13A-46B5-9201-C1DBF5B1B4B8_zpsaa556dxw.jpg.html)

It's slow going but it's still going Buzz.....

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 17, 2017, 01:53:56 AM

Nice work on those detail pieces!

Looks like you're really going all out here!

Brian da Basher

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: finsrin on April 17, 2017, 05:26:50 PM

Looking over your details is inspiring to build 1/350.  Fine touches like these will add much to final appearance.  :)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: 35th-scale on April 26, 2017, 04:32:11 AM

Thanks Brian.

Go for it Finsrin....all it takes is patience. Lots of patience 😀

Still tinkering away adding the little bits

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/65636C3B-EC3B-4D89-A2DD-01F3C287C599_zpsiftt6aaw.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/65636C3B-EC3B-4D89-A2DD-01F3C287C599_zpsiftt6aaw.jpg.html)

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/CF029AF8-85FD-4CAA-B068-E5246462BF82_zpsdrguvxyb.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/CF029AF8-85FD-4CAA-B068-E5246462BF82_zpsdrguvxyb.jpg.html)

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/665A3F92-80D3-49E8-98C0-512C6E348ACE_zpssmcm1fgx.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/665A3F92-80D3-49E8-98C0-512C6E348ACE_zpssmcm1fgx.jpg.html)

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/35th-scale/Models/HMS%20Westminster/AA3F9B27-4B05-47EC-ABF2-08FBE33D269E_zpsmasbvkqg.jpg) (http://s213.photobucket.com/user/35th-scale/media/Models/HMS%20Westminster/AA3F9B27-4B05-47EC-ABF2-08FBE33D269E_zpsmasbvkqg.jpg.html)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Old Wombat on April 26, 2017, 05:52:09 PM

Looking really good! 8)

Title: Re: HMS Westminster
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 27, 2017, 06:39:45 AM

Wow! Those details look like a million bucks!

Brian da Basher