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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #125 on: December 17, 2013, 04:13:12 AM »
The bigger tail surfaces would help a bit with the balancing. Maybe put the radiators in (inside?) the tail too. I believe some of the long Griffon Spitfires needed extra weight in the tail to balance.

Actually all the Spitfires had some sort of ballast perttime,  there was a special frame built into the end of the fuselage, right where the tail assemble was bolted on.  Depending on what motor/propeller combination was installed depended on how much ballast was bolted in.  This ballast comprised of steel plates of various thicknesses, stack on top of each other and had a big bolt running through the lot.  They had to go this way because all through the Spitfires production, from the Mk.I to the Mk.24 (including Seafires, Spitefuls & Seafangs), the fuselage length (that's the distance from the engine bulkhead to the tail assemble joint and even to the rudder hinge line) never changed.  Now I'm not saying the overall lengths didn't change, just the fuselage length.

One of my up coming project is to build a Spitfire with a Mustang style radiator duct, apparently Supermarine studied all the various radiator styles at one time ot other.

This one below for instance has wing leading edge radiators but I have also stretched the rear fuselage by a scaled 24" [610mm) which is about 8.5mm in 1/72, I'm going to do a regular Spitfire the same too.
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #126 on: December 17, 2013, 04:32:07 AM »
One of my up coming project is to build a Spitfire with a Mustang style radiator duct, apparently Supermarine studied all the various radiator styles at one time ot other.
One of my "erryplane" drawings is a Griffon "Spitfire" racer, with a radiator just behind the wing:
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=2970.msg45377#msg45377

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #127 on: December 17, 2013, 04:40:46 AM »
One of my up coming project is to build a Spitfire with a Mustang style radiator duct, apparently Supermarine studied all the various radiator styles at one time ot other.
One of my "erryplane" drawings is a Griffon "Spitfire" racer, with a radiator just behind the wing:
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=2970.msg45377#msg45377


Nice, maybe do the wing like the real Speed Spitfire had too --  This is not my model and unfortunately I can't remember who sent me the pics

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #128 on: December 17, 2013, 02:50:58 PM »
maybe do the wing like the real Speed Spitfire had too
Unfortunately, the Speed Spitfire wing is my least favorite Spitfire wing shape. I like the "late" wing, so made a short version of it for some of my doodlings.

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #129 on: December 17, 2013, 03:38:12 PM »
Old enemies become friends :)


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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #130 on: December 19, 2013, 01:39:05 AM »
Spitfire + Hurricane


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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #131 on: December 19, 2013, 01:41:05 AM »
Spitfire + Yak


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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #132 on: December 06, 2015, 07:39:06 AM »
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #133 on: December 06, 2015, 03:58:47 PM »
I wonder what that does to gun accuracy?

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #134 on: December 06, 2015, 09:38:54 PM »
I wonder what that does to gun accuracy?

You need to be good at deflection shooting?  ;D
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #135 on: December 06, 2015, 11:00:03 PM »

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #136 on: December 07, 2015, 02:16:57 AM »
The picture is real... ;)  The design it portrays is not.  See here for more
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #137 on: January 01, 2016, 03:42:45 AM »
One to upset the purists...

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #138 on: January 01, 2016, 09:05:00 AM »
One to upset the purists...



Oh, good lord!  What engine was fitted?

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #139 on: January 01, 2016, 10:56:18 AM »
I would say, going by the cowling, either a late model Bristol Hercules or Centaurus.
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #140 on: January 01, 2016, 02:27:47 PM »
There's got to be a better way to install the exhausts...  ;D

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #141 on: January 01, 2016, 02:28:09 PM »
I would say, going by the cowling, either a late model Bristol Hercules or Centaurus.

Agree.  But it looks to be photoshopped?
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #142 on: January 01, 2016, 03:18:36 PM »
I would say, going by the cowling, either a late model Bristol Hercules or Centaurus.

Agree.  But it looks to be photoshopped?

I would say poorly photoshopped. And a radial engine Spitfire would surely create havoc amongst certain people! So who's going to build one?

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #143 on: January 01, 2016, 10:14:16 PM »
I would say, going by the cowling, either a late model Bristol Hercules or Centaurus.

Agree.  But it looks to be photoshopped?

I would say poorly photoshopped. And a radial engine Spitfire would surely create havoc amongst certain people! So who's going to build one?

And why would you need two radiator ducts under the wing, I could understand one for an oil cooler though.

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #144 on: January 01, 2016, 11:29:06 PM »
I would say, going by the cowling, either a late model Bristol Hercules or Centaurus.

Agree.  But it looks to be photoshopped?

I would say poorly photoshopped. And a radial engine Spitfire would surely create havoc amongst certain people! So who's going to build one?

And why would you need two radiator ducts under the wing, I could understand one for an oil cooler though.

A badly done PS job but something to look at.
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #145 on: January 02, 2016, 12:34:39 AM »
There's got to be a better way to install the exhausts...  ;D

The cowling and spinner look like they have come from a Bristol Freighter, those engine exhausts just exited behind the rear end of the cowling, like this below

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #146 on: January 02, 2016, 02:27:20 AM »
I would say, going by the cowling, either a late model Bristol Hercules or Centaurus.

Agree.  But it looks to be photoshopped?

I would say poorly photoshopped. And a radial engine Spitfire would surely create havoc amongst certain people! So who's going to build one?

And why would you need two radiator ducts under the wing, I could understand one for an oil cooler though.
really needs to go back to the oil cooler under one wing of the early marks.  Nice concept but less than perfect execution in the details.

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #147 on: January 02, 2016, 03:58:45 AM »
Another:

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #148 on: January 02, 2016, 05:00:03 AM »
At least we know that one is feasible Greg, as it comes from the Hercules Hurricane

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #149 on: January 02, 2016, 05:07:09 AM »
I would say, going by the cowling, either a late model Bristol Hercules or Centaurus.

Agree.  But it looks to be photoshopped?

It is photoshopped - but not by me.  I just found it online whilst looking for something else.
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