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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #200 on: January 20, 2016, 09:18:11 AM »
Glad you came back after all that !
Like this build concept, stay with it :)

I couldn't agree more! Love the look of those added fins on the wings!

Great stuff and congrats on the baby, Mr Tomcat!

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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #201 on: January 20, 2016, 09:14:29 PM »
Miniature human projects are always for more time consuming and demanding than styrene ones, although they don't tend to take anywhere as near as long to complete, only infancy, school and college / university to see them through, about 20 to 25 years, much quicker than the average modelling project.

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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #202 on: January 20, 2016, 09:42:21 PM »
My wife and I have built three. She gets most of the credit. They turned out well. Congrats!!

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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #203 on: January 22, 2016, 02:18:55 AM »
Glad you came back after all that !
Like this build concept, stay with it :)


+1, very glad you're back! Congrats on the young TaiidanCubKat too. Never to late to start them building, thats what SnapTites for  :)




I agree, already got legos lined up too!


congratulations for your creations in the different worlds !




thanks, i'll make sure to post pictures of every yellow one before I add more paint  :)

I clap my hands also, maybe not for the baby (the mother is the one to congratulate I think, more than the father) but for the model, with this surprizing X-tail, wonderful! :-*


 :)

Glad you came back after all that !
Like this build concept, stay with it :)


I couldn't agree more! Love the look of those added fins on the wings!

Great stuff and congrats on the baby, Mr Tomcat!

Brian da Basher


Thanks guys!

Miniature human projects are always for more time consuming and demanding than styrene ones, although they don't tend to take anywhere as near as long to complete, only infancy, school and college / university to see them through, about 20 to 25 years, much quicker than the average modelling project.


Oh indeed!

My wife and I have built three. She gets most of the credit. They turned out well. Congrats!!


1 feels like too many already, Don't know how people do 3!  :o


Hey, welcome back!

 Intruders have some nice lines. For this one, I could see a longer taper to the rear, give more of a fishy look to it.


I agree with you, and this brings me to my next post: Homeworld came out in 1999, and the concept art was released online and floating around for years and years now. Amazingly enough for a 15 year old game, the story is not over. Last year the Homeworld Remastered was released along with an official concept art book:



Which I bought immediately (I had been wanting a book like this for a decade and a half) and read at 3AM with a sleeping baby on me. (very helpful from a modeling standpoint BTW)


So where this gets interesting is there is now several iterations sometimes 4 or even 5 of the same design with various level of detail. Here are some examples of what I mean:



Taiidan Bomber concept^



In game original^



Fan created high definition version, worked on before announcement of official HW Remastered^



HW Remastered^


So one of the reasons the A-6 has a clipped tail, and F-14 wings is because I was going off the original in game, but the rules are a lot more varied now; the graphics improved, namely things that were previously faceted are now nice and round, which is a lot more friendly to the Round and bulbous A-6.



 We are also on the verge of a prequal game Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak  (previously under  the name "Shipbreakers") here is a cool Gif:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--bTxrWDXE--/e9bzjnkkorkhsyphkzyj.webm

Yes that is a giant land aircraft carrier

« Last Edit: January 22, 2016, 02:20:27 AM by taiidantomcat »
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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #204 on: January 22, 2016, 03:23:41 AM »

Which I bought immediately (I had been wanting a book like this for a decade and a half) and read at 3AM with a sleeping baby on me. (very helpful from a modeling standpoint BTW)


Good to see you are putting the child in an inspirational environment from the start! :)
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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #205 on: January 24, 2016, 11:34:25 AM »
Scott Manley review of the prequel game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqxx7xcjoQ8

Congrats on the rugrat! :)
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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #206 on: February 16, 2016, 01:09:11 AM »
"I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others" - Thucydides

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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #207 on: February 17, 2016, 10:27:09 AM »
The first one is a future stealth Hog!  ;)
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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #208 on: February 18, 2016, 03:03:32 AM »
The first one is a future stealth Hog!  ;)

Actually have some plans based (loosely)on that sketch  >:D Just have not gotten to them...yet. It involves an A-10, and an Apache helicopter front. But I have yet to find something that will serve as the large White (Phalanx looking sensor up front)

Thanks for the Bump and art Weaver!!





Cockpit work from a ways back I have yet to post^^ And some (very small) work for new fins a few nights ago:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1527/25046618836_1cde16d742_b.jpg

Small progress is still progress, but I wish I could do more. So in the above photo I removed the lumps at the base of the fins that come with Revellogram Tomcats, and I have drilled holes and cut slots so I can put in new fins. The plan is to give all the fins a universal tab, so I can switch them and see which ones I like most, and give them some room so I can slide them forward or back to place them in a spot I like the most.

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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #209 on: May 01, 2016, 06:46:45 AM »
I am caught between 2 worlds. On one hand I want to plan, and sketch and do long marathon builds, and OTOH I just want to do some "sprint builds", and just get some stuff done so as to not be bogged down with perfecting my plans and getting the mojo going!  :-\




I have a 1/100 scale super hornet that needs to be finished, but meh. Super hornets. They're cool, but what can I adjust?



I had the idea of making the nose like an F-35 (which I love-- insert insult here) and I have a new motor tool that Santa got me, so it was my first chance to use one. Started with balsa wood



so consulting a picture of an F-35 nose on my phone and grinding and sanding away I had this. Hmm  ::)



no going back!!



didn't like the wood nose so I flipped the hornet nose I just cut off over and started grinding and sanding... hey not bad.



but it doesn't fit... hmm How can I make it fit without major operations? (sexy F-8 Crusader look though no?)


 
Made some cuts to both nose and plane made some test fits and recuts and...



hey!! alright!

And the finished product some more (but not much) filling and sanding:



Pretty cool! So I need to make some other adjustments to get it on the road. I know what you are thinking, jeez TT does everything with you have to be F-35s? Because yes. Yes it does.  ;D I'm still brain storming pretty well and getting into the habit of drawing and sketching more. Thinking out loud. I plan on building some models and doing some little tests and samples here and there in order to flesh out more ideas and learn what I like and what I should keep going with.

 :) thank you for stopping by!

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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #210 on: May 01, 2016, 06:51:01 AM »
That is really cool Ben. Good technique to remember.
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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #211 on: May 02, 2016, 03:47:38 AM »
Different.
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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #212 on: May 02, 2016, 10:25:23 PM »
That is really cool Ben.
I like it also...

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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #213 on: May 06, 2016, 05:31:07 AM »
I always enjoy catching up with Mr Tomcat's projects even if I don't post in a timely manner.

Everything he does just overflows with talent. Rumor is he's so good he doesn't even have a shelf of doom.

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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #214 on: May 11, 2016, 07:06:04 PM »
That's excellent work! I like the F-35, especially the C version, IMHO, the bigger wings and stabs make it look perfect. Can't see a problem with it being an influence on your model, i was very influenced by it when i was building my F-16W.
Looking forward for more on that Superbug! :)

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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #215 on: May 19, 2016, 03:27:35 AM »
Good stuff all up and down this thread, really inspired me to do some Homeworld style builds. Looking forward to seeing more.

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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #216 on: June 30, 2016, 08:20:06 PM »
Thank you for the comments everyone!  :) Believe me when I say I enjoy seeing your work more than my own



1/48 revellogram Tomcat fin cut.



very long!!



Thats better





beauty shots^ :-*







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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #217 on: July 01, 2016, 12:40:56 AM »


Nerd alert!!! Jotted my process down on a post it note to try and make sense of the proper steps.  :-\



as I work out the specifics for my ever expanding Tomcat Project, I know I will need lots of wings so I started building them a pair at a time (limited amount of clamps)



Took the wing from an already built Tomcat to make some fins. Didn't work the way I hoped! Was able to split the other one ok though-- 50 percent success!!



Size comparison with one of the scaled up F-35 fins... which I cleverly names "F-35 like"



I then cut it, at about the same spot to provide roughly the same dimensions/size . I grabbed a 1/72 scale Tomcat wing and compared it also. This is from a snaptite 1/72 Tomcat, and is actually slightly underscaled compared to Hasegawa Tomcat wings. So I might use more accurate 1/72 scale wings. So there we have it, 3 sets of fins for 3 slightly different looks.





tough to see with the white, but its a lengthened wind screen to more resemble this:

https://p3d.in/QMOIN

A quick scale jump, this is a 1/72 Scale Hasegawa Tomcat that is devoid of a cockpit for another project, so it will be getting a new non transparent canopy (nothing to see anyway) and some of the more bold ideas will go to it, and maybe some other 1/72 scale cats.



intake screens (lots!)

I would be getting more done and posting more, but my partner is not always of great help:








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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #218 on: July 01, 2016, 01:02:24 AM »
What?



See this?



I'm having fun, here!
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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #219 on: July 01, 2016, 03:09:06 AM »
Good to see you training him early!
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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #220 on: July 01, 2016, 03:48:44 AM »
Thank you for the comments everyone!  :) Believe me when I say I enjoy seeing your work more than my own
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But Mr Tomcat, your models are so much easier on the eyes than mine...

Nice to see an update and it looks like you're overcoming the challenges with your typical elan.

Wow those 1/1 scale kids get big fast, don't they? Before you know it, he'll be clogging your airbrush. Now you know why I stick to 1/72 & smaller...

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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #221 on: July 01, 2016, 07:43:34 AM »
Got to admit, when I was 1st looking at it, I thought this;



needed a similar nose to this;

https://p3d.in/QMOIN,

too.
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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #222 on: July 01, 2016, 08:05:28 AM »


Nerd alert!!! Jotted my process down on a post it note to try and make sense of the proper steps.  :-\


That is some meta modelling right there. Not only whiffing the kits, but whiffing the instructions as well!  :o  :icon_beer:

The questions is, of course, if you don't follow instructions on real-world kits, do you follow your whiffed instructions on your whiffed kits.  :icon_meditation:
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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #223 on: July 02, 2016, 02:10:49 AM »
Good to see you training him early!


he likes airplanes and stuff thats easy and light to handle, scale model aircraft are about perfect for that.  :( but also  :D





But Mr Tomcat, your models are so much easier on the eyes than mine...

Nice to see an update and it looks like you're overcoming the challenges with your typical elan.

Wow those 1/1 scale kids get big fast, don't they? Before you know it, he'll be clogging your airbrush. Now you know why I stick to 1/72 & smaller...

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You are too kind! Have you thought about trying your typical fun backstories with a Science Fiction project? I can only imagine the backstory to a Klingon Garbage Hauler  ;D

Got to admit, when I was 1st looking at it, I thought this;

needed a similar nose to this;

https://p3d.in/QMOIN,

too.


Are thinking like with the Longer, angular Canopy and a under hung sensor?  ???



That is some meta modelling right there. Not only whiffing the kits, but whiffing the instructions as well!  :o  :icon_beer:

The questions is, of course, if you don't follow instructions on real-world kits, do you follow your whiffed instructions on your whiffed kits.  :icon_meditation:


Theoritically I do  ;D. My goal is to do lik AXOR does and have Profiles and models and have both informing the other.  :) Maybe even some background or backstory, but the more I get caught up in that, the less building gets done, and the mroe indecisive the builds.

So in the Homeworld Art book the Designers mentioned that the Taiidan have ships of 3 Sections (kind of like Insects I guess) So I used a Profile from Willy Peeters and the lovely DACO book and did a quick demo:



Forward section line is roughly where a lot of Tomcat Models have their subsections. Another thing the Book mentioned is that the Taiidan paint their ships, in fact they paint them in snazzy stripes,



 However their opposites, the Kushan paint Subsections, and then join them together:



with minimal paint afterward. So very helpful tips that will help get things right. Easier to paint whole sections and glue them on too when I decide to get a Kushan ship going. I might you a combination of both subsections, and painted sections for some of these Tomcats. But one thing is for certain, I need to get some painting done  >:( Time to see some color



Lastly, I discovered the font that Homeworld uses Eurostile, and its a little detail that I overlooked that I really should not have. Trying to create a fusion of Space Fighter and Tomcat is kind of challenging, you want it to look like the original F-14, but not too much like the original I think making some decals using these numbers and fonts will help create that futuristic Science fiction feel and as it turns out,Eurostile is extremely common to science fiction:

https://typesetinthefuture.com/2014/11/29/fontspots-eurostile/



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Re: Taiidan
« Reply #224 on: July 02, 2016, 03:20:31 PM »
Got to admit, when I was 1st looking at it, I thought this;

needed a similar nose to this;

https://p3d.in/QMOIN,

too.

Are thinking like with the Longer, angular Canopy and a under hung sensor?  ???

Partially, I was thinking with a slightly longer canopy but retaining the curved F-18 form down the front, with a definite "yes" to the underslung sensor.
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