Author Topic: Chimera  (Read 16382 times)

Offline tc2324

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Chimera
« on: July 04, 2012, 05:50:19 AM »
Just ordered a P-51 and F-16 to have a crack at making the forums signiture profile.  ;)



Just a few questions.....,

1. Can I? Or is this someones work who may get a bit upset seeing it turned into plastic?

2. Has this been done before?

3. Which helicopter was used for the rotors and engine bay?
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 02:05:48 AM by tc2324 »
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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2012, 08:13:25 AM »
Isn't it one of Tophe's profiles?

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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 03:58:05 PM »
The profile is known as the Chimera and is the work of Chris (aka coops213) who used the assistance of Damian (aka damian) and based upon a sketch I did that was based upon a suggestion by Jon (aka jcf).

That said, let me answer your questions:

  • Go for it!!!  I have been hoping someone would have a go.  I'm sure the other people involved would fully agree.
  • It hasn't been done in plastic before as far as I know.
  • I will have to double check.  I think it may be AH-64 rotor blades with a 'mast' just shaped to blend in to the fuselage as best as possible.
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Offline tc2324

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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2012, 10:20:33 PM »
Cheers GTX  :)

Although I think I`m going to use a 4 blade rotor rather than the 2.  ;)
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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2012, 02:02:24 AM »
Cheers GTX  :)

Although I think I`m going to use a 4 blade rotor rather than the 2.  ;)

Go for it!
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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2012, 05:22:28 AM »
Oh dear god ! Your crazy !!

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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2012, 08:03:50 PM »
Ok, so the 1/72 scale F-16 and P-51 are on their way. In the end I opted for a 1/144 Chinook kit for the rotor assembly so only 3 blades on this one now.  :)

I think I going to build this one in flight as well as trying to figure out the u/c positioning is giving me a headache....  ???
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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2012, 03:02:15 AM »
You could make it a "four poster" Use the mustangs front gear, and the F-16s rear gear.  >:D
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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2012, 03:51:14 AM »
Well, an early version did have tank tracks...

« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 03:53:20 AM by GTX_Admin »
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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2012, 03:55:43 AM »
By the way, here is another early iteration:



Along with some other colour variations:




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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2012, 08:10:32 AM »
I have made a Rotodyne a little like that, from an old Airfix Mig 21 - I'll find some pics for you

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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2012, 07:18:06 AM »
Here we go...







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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2012, 04:51:40 PM »
This project is wonderful... Go!

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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2012, 12:08:28 AM »
Autogyro's rule!  :)

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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2012, 10:38:45 AM »
Such a feature - rear firing tail missile.  That'll git um.   :)

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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2012, 04:23:44 PM »
That had awesome written all over it, deathjester!

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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2012, 01:07:38 AM »
Cheers!  But I thought it had 'XH162' written  all over it?  ;D :-\ ;D

Nice model to build - realy just fell together like it was meant to be.

Take one Airfix Mig 21, and assemble the fuselage as normal, the nose from an Airfix Mosquito, the missiles from an F101 Voodoo, the glove pylons from an F14, a small round drum shape, and whatever suitably sized rotor blades from whatever toy helicopter you can find (mine has folding blades - bonus!)

Then trim down the wingtips to the outer fences, use one of the pylons to mount the drop tank over the engine bay, then fit SNEB rocket pods to the wingtips.  Place a spare afterburner on the exhaust, then cut the Mosquito nose to fit snugly onto the spine of the Mig, and cut a hole to fit the drum shape into.  Then glue the base of the rotor hub to the top of the drum shape, and slot it into the Mosquito nose.  Job done!

Offline tc2324

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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2012, 04:30:23 AM »
Thanks all for your input, plenty to think about them as the kits haven`t shown yet.....  :( 

Think my main problem wil be blending the vertical oblong fuselage to the horizontal flat fuselage of the F-16....  :-\

 
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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2012, 06:20:20 PM »
Yay....!

The kits have arrived.



As you can see, no expense has been spared.....  ;D
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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2012, 02:54:57 AM »
So the first cuts have now taken place and my initial thoughts are that while I would love to make this as true to form shown, there are some areas that may well need to be modified due to the actual physical aspects of both kits.



As you can see I`m thinking about replacing the P-51`s intake for the F-16`s. This is simply because it may be easier to intergrate the two sections. I have also cut that V shape on the top of the F-16 kit to remove the slight incline you get at that section. I have also taken the rear engine nacelle off the Chinook and preping that for construction. That so far, has been the easy bit.

Of course, I`m not really sure what to do with the bits I don`t need now, but I`m thinking along the lines of James Bond for some reason.......

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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2012, 03:31:59 AM »
You're off to a magnificent start and the F-16 nose grafted on the P-51 tail is a nice bonus!

Building one chimera would seem quite the project. Building two is almost balmy!

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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2012, 05:43:59 AM »
Spent a bit more time tonight with the cutters and scalpel trimming some of the offending areas in detail.

Forgive the makeshift stand and masking tape holding it all together, but this shows you the approx layout of the design and as you can see I kept the F-16`s intake instead of the rather small one from the P-51. (That was a bit of jiggery pokery I dont want to repeat I can tell you).  :o



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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2012, 05:57:34 AM »
Coming along very nicely!!!
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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2012, 01:01:05 AM »
Awesome

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Re: Beyond the Sprues P-51 Falcon Rotodyne
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2012, 11:47:33 AM »
Wonderful! :-*
When the central tape is removed, a lot of work will appear to be done, I fear...