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Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: Tophe on April 15, 2012, 11:54:16 AM

Title: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on April 15, 2012, 11:54:16 AM
While my son was sleeping, I "repaired" differently the aircraft he broke: the removed tailplanes are now canard (temporarily with adhesive tape):
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on April 15, 2012, 11:57:41 AM
And this is an asymmetric twin-engined airliner: pods 1 & 3 are jet-less anymore, just there for balance. My breaking son shows me the next generation will be dreamers too...
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: apophenia on April 16, 2012, 08:59:04 AM
Creativity out of destruction  ;D  This is going to be interesting Tophe!
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on April 16, 2012, 10:19:25 AM
Thanks Apophenia.
Next combination: asymmetric tail:
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on April 16, 2012, 10:21:03 AM
Then: with jets above the wings and inverted tailplanes:
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: apophenia on April 16, 2012, 10:38:24 AM
Ooo, I do like that last variation  :-*
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 17, 2012, 03:36:49 AM
Ooo, I do like that last variation  :-*

Me too! Great stuff, mon ami. Kudos on the assist from your son!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on April 17, 2012, 12:40:00 PM
Thanks!
So I kept on the reverted wings and went back to canard to match this topic's title.
(Scale is about 1/100: 2ft long, 2ft wide)
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 18, 2012, 05:40:37 AM
It seems now I have a new favorite, Tophe! There's just something about those canards that make this so eye-catching!

Once again, I am humbled by your boundless imagination!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on April 18, 2012, 11:32:55 AM
Thanks Brian.
And here is another view of the same:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/r_DSCF0130.jpg)
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on April 19, 2012, 09:16:50 PM
And a true creation of my 2-year-old son: the Boeing 747J (J for JackyLiner) is a 3-engined asymmetric flying wing:
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 20, 2012, 03:22:09 AM
I must congratulate you on raising yet another generation for this crazy hobby, mon ami!

Definitely a "chip off the old block" and following in his father's footsteps nicely!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on April 20, 2012, 09:43:24 AM
Thanks "uncle" Brian...  ;)
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on April 27, 2012, 10:30:34 AM
After further playing, my son has created what may be the final Boeing 747 design: 747S, a simple twin-jet in the Boeing 737/757/767/777 family. Yes, it is an asymmetric flying wing, but Jacky is my son... ;)
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: arc3371 on April 27, 2012, 07:54:05 PM
Great looking bird
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Brian da Basher on May 01, 2012, 02:57:39 AM
Definitely "like father, like son"!

He's prably doing calculus by now too...

I really like this one! "Uncle" heartily approves!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on May 12, 2012, 07:01:41 PM
Even further: the 747 is now an asymmetric flying wing with one half forward swept wing
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Brian da Basher on May 12, 2012, 10:35:30 PM
Another Tophe masterpiece!

Alexandr Calder would be green with envy at your genius, mon ami!

Your work never fails to delight!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 12, 2012, 10:58:19 PM
Make it a pivoting oblique wing and you really have something believe able as a future airliner.
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: RussC on May 13, 2012, 03:58:57 AM
Or maybe an X-wing jumbo, two regular wings right behind two forward swept ones. Leave the vert tail, but the horizontal tailplanes could go. Two engines on the front forward swept and two on the back pair. Why should Sukhoi Berkut drivers have all the forward swept fun.

Maybe two sets of forward swept? Could have luxury seating combined with the maneuverability of a Pitts'  :P
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on May 13, 2012, 11:06:18 AM
Thanks for your dreams... ;)
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: elmayerle on May 13, 2012, 12:03:38 PM
I reckon you'll appreciate P&W's new asymmetric 747SP engine testbed:

http://www.aviationweek.com/Portals/AWeek/TWW/AW_05_07_2012_00_cover.jpg (http://www.aviationweek.com/Portals/AWeek/TWW/AW_05_07_2012_00_cover.jpg)

I believe a  visit to http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx?plckBlogId=Blog:7a78f54e-b3dd-4fa6-ae6e-dff2ffd7bdbb&plckPostId=Blog%3a7a78f54e-b3dd-4fa6-ae6e-dff2ffd7bdbbPost%3ac6aac62b-7f5d-4d7a-b4bf-27d697ff1ccd (http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx?plckBlogId=Blog:7a78f54e-b3dd-4fa6-ae6e-dff2ffd7bdbb&plckPostId=Blog%3a7a78f54e-b3dd-4fa6-ae6e-dff2ffd7bdbbPost%3ac6aac62b-7f5d-4d7a-b4bf-27d697ff1ccd) will provide more info and pictures.
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on May 13, 2012, 12:30:30 PM
Very much appreciated, thanks!
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: elmayerle on May 13, 2012, 12:37:53 PM
Very much appreciated, thanks!
I have to admit that my first thought when I saw it was "Damn, Tophe's going to love it!"  I note from the article that the aircraft was modfied by my former empployer down in Waco who had plenty of experience with the 747SP after modifying one into the SOFIA flying observatory.
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: RussC on May 13, 2012, 03:28:37 PM
Testbeds are not a new idea. There is a 757 with a side mount engine test station used here Locally (Tempe Az.) by Honeywell Aerospace.

This machine supercedes an 720 and L-1011 used earlier.

(http://www.aero-news.net/images/content/general/2011/Honeywell-757-Test-Bed-0211a.jpg)

(http://www.air-and-space.com/20100201%20PHX/_BEL5158%20757-225%20N757HW%20Honeywell%20right%20front%20take-off%20l.jpg)

Whole article  http://www.air-and-space.com/20100201%20N757HW.htm (http://www.air-and-space.com/20100201%20N757HW.htm)

(http://www.vc10.net/History/Individual/Images/G_AXLR-01.jpg)

(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/4/1/0/0116014.jpg)

(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/2/6/6/0326662.jpg)

(http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/061127-F-1234S-029.jpg)

Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on May 13, 2012, 04:47:46 PM
Thanks a lot RussC, this is greatly enriching my collection of asymmetric airplanes! :-*
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: elmayerle on May 14, 2012, 06:26:16 AM
It's not exactly asymmetric, but AiResearch's B-26 testbed for the TPE331 with the turboprop mounted in the nose was different.  The Falcon 20 they used for testing the TFE1042 for the Chung-Kuo looks different with the afterburning engine, in special nacelle, on one side.
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on May 14, 2012, 09:12:18 AM
Google found the B-26/TPE331 3-engine picture at http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1982/1982%20-%202327.html (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1982/1982%20-%202327.html)
Thanks!
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: elmayerle on May 14, 2012, 09:29:39 AM
Google found the B-26/TPE331 3-engine picture at [url]http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1982/1982%20-%202327.html[/url] ([url]http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1982/1982%20-%202327.html[/url])
Thanks!

That's their second one, made from an Invader that had gone through a conversion to a business aircraft (On Mark Marksman without the tiptanks, perhaps?).  Their first one was simply a de-mil'd Invader.
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on May 17, 2012, 01:19:43 AM
You probably know that the Gulfstream Peregrine was the first single-jet bizjet, but do you know the single-jet airliner? Boeing 747S (my son's 747, repaired...)
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Brian da Basher on May 17, 2012, 04:38:06 AM
Please thank your son for me, mon ami. His work brings a smile to my face!

Can you imagine what his model-building will look like in a few more years?

Already, I am wishing I had his unique perspective and creativity!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on May 17, 2012, 05:30:24 PM
Thanks Brian.
Well, the 1/200 Boeing 747 of Jacky has turned to 747G Gliderliner (or 747R Rocketliner?):
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on May 17, 2012, 05:37:26 PM
After Mummy Emelyn repaired (with the parts she found), the 747 turned back to normal again: 3-jet asymmetric...
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on May 17, 2012, 05:39:53 PM
The little creator with his 747, big and small, both asymmetric of course:
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Brian da Basher on May 18, 2012, 03:31:29 AM
Thank you for those pictures of your son and his creations, mon ami!

They totally made my day!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Boeing 747C CanardLiner
Post by: Tophe on May 18, 2012, 01:09:15 PM
Thank you for your comment, Brian.