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P-40 Ideas
« on: February 22, 2012, 12:33:32 PM »
-Jet P-40

-Navalized P-40

-XP-40 (no chin intake) W/ Merlin

-Turboprop

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2012, 03:14:51 AM »
Klimov.  Red Stars. 

Or did that actually happen in the real world?   
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2012, 06:36:37 AM »
Or did that actually happen in the real world?   


Yep, the 2-seat P-40EA was refitted with a Klimov VK-105. There's even a 1/72 resin kit:
http://www.lfmodels.com/curtiss-p40ea-double-seat-klimov-p-38.html
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2012, 08:19:17 AM »
I've always wanted to use the two seat conversion kit for a float plane akin to the a high performance Kingfisher.  Sourcing the conversion kit and some floats in the US has always been the issue though  :icon_twisted:
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 09:39:48 AM »
I am planning to build a post-war F-40K ROKAF (Pepsi Logo) with 5" rockets.
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 09:55:08 AM »
Klimov.  Red Stars.  <...>

Klimov no, Red Stars yes.

Something Greg did:



Got the kits for this, just need the time and place.  :)

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 10:09:41 AM »
I do love that one.  Going from radial to inline was the worst thing they did for that airframe.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2012, 02:49:36 PM »
Hispano 12Y on a spatted Hawk 75 M/N/O and in French livery.   

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2012, 11:33:46 AM »
Hispano 12Y on a spatted Hawk 75 M/N/O and in French livery.   

And I just gotta say it:  Fabric wings!    8) 8) 8)
Captured version of same transferred to Finland by the Germans and re-engined with a captured Klimov VK-105; much like what the Finns did to make the Morko-Moraine.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2012, 10:53:56 PM »
MiG 3 nose on P-40

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2012, 02:56:03 AM »
MiG 3 nose on P-40


Would look a bit like the XP-37:


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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2012, 01:46:04 PM »
Folks,

I always did like what Curtiss did with its P-36 airframe before it settled down on the P-40.  The look of that really long nose with the cockpit set so far back just emphasized the massiveness of the engine.  Even though in total horsepower it was less than what was routinely in the air just a few years later, the look of those birds just screamed brute power.

It was the proportions of the thing.  We're used to the cockpit of those sort of aircraft being in about a certain place.  And that anything ahead of the cockpit was all engine - correctly or incorrectly.  Thus, setting the cockpit that far back meant - by perception alone if nothing else - that the plane had to have an absolutely humungous engine up there!

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2012, 03:32:08 AM »
The X/YP-37 engine was no longer than than any other C-series Allison, the
exaggerated length appearance is because the turbo-supercharger intercooler
and the engine radiator are installed behind the engine. Thus the requirement
to move the cockpit aft.



... and P&W's R-1830 powered take on a radial engined Hawk 81/P-40, evidently it regularly out flew Merlin powered P-40Fs
stationed at a nearby base:


Drawings of the X/YP-37 and P&W aircraft are on this page:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/AirWar/52/Draw/index.htm

BTW the C-series V-1710 and the AM-35A are very similar in size, with the Allison slightly longer.
V-1710C: L 250.3 cm (98.54 in.), W 74.4 cm (29.29 in.), H 106.4 cm (41.88 in.)
 AM-35A: L 240.2 cm (94.57 in.), W 86.6 cm (34.09 in.), H 108.9 cm (42.87 in.)

However, the AM-35A, is about 490 pounds heavier at 830 kg(1,829 lbs) vs. 608kg
(1,340 lbs) for the Allison.
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2012, 06:36:09 AM »
... and P&W's R-1830 powered take on a radial engined Hawk 81/P-40, evidently it regularly out flew Merlin powered P-40Fs
stationed at a nearby base:



Now that is nice.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2012, 06:41:17 AM »
Now a model of that would fool some people.
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2012, 02:06:00 PM »
That's real?    If yes, why the longer nose over the P-36?     
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2012, 02:24:29 PM »
Because it's not a P-36, it's a Hawk 81A-1 airframe with the V-1710 replaced with an 1100hp  P&W R-1830-SSC7-G
with two-stage supercharger.
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2012, 02:35:52 PM »
What was going through my mind was CG issues.   

Now to put that machine in proper Soumi colors.   
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2012, 02:32:35 AM »
Hmmm, what about the Polish Government ordering some P-36s and even possibly some P-40s before the war broke out.  Might make for an interesting addition...
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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2012, 02:45:12 AM »
Hmmm, what about the Polish Government ordering some P-36s and even possibly some P-40s before the war broke out.  Might make for an interesting addition...

Thanks Greg. I have some spare P-36s and P-40Bs in the stash.

Does anyone have some Polish decals they would be willing to part with/trade?
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2012, 06:40:57 PM »
Random idea:  Greek P-40s in this scheme:

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2012, 01:09:43 AM »
With Napier Sabre

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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2012, 02:34:29 AM »
You could do this:


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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2012, 05:33:17 AM »
Oh that is nice!!!
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2012, 05:46:15 AM »
Oh that is nice!!!

Double ditto on that.....

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2012, 05:55:15 AM »
Some P-40 mutations:


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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2012, 06:09:53 AM »
More:


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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2012, 07:22:35 AM »
I can see the Russians reverse engineering the P-40 and then jetting it.  North Korean markings perhaps?
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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2012, 02:48:50 PM »
Oh that is nice!!!

Thanks, I cobbled that together about 10 years ago just to see if it could be done. I've got the intent to do a much more refined one at some point with a few changes.
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2012, 06:08:23 AM »


Maybe it's just me, but I think a jet version of the P-40L or P-40N would look good with that engine set up.  Most certainly it would not interfere with the main gear the way a similar installation would do with, say, the P-51.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2012, 08:55:53 AM »
Twin-boom P-40E is great, but needs more power!  >:D

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2012, 04:02:37 AM »
My God that twin boom version is NICE!!!!  Looks like you'd need three kits at least.  Good thing Michael's carry the Revell 1/48 P-40E and has the weekly %40 off coupon in the paper  8)
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« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2012, 04:05:52 AM »
3 kits for 3 engined versions.  2 kits for twin engined original ( back one page)
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« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2012, 04:36:26 AM »
Question about the TP-40E twin seat trainer; what kind of range did it have?  To install the second seat the fuselage fuel tank (51 gal) had to be removed.  Only other tanks are two 42 gal main wing tanks and two 30 gal reserve wing tanks.  Did the extra 51 gallons really impact the range that significantly?

Was it relocated?  Directly behind the second seat is radio equipment so I'd think that could be moved between the two cockpits and the fuel tank put in its place.  Not sure what that would do to the center of gravity though.  I'm trying to figure out the design for a two-seat float plane version.  Any ideas guys?
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2012, 02:54:57 AM »
Random idea:  RR Griffon Engined P-40, possibly based on XP-40Q.
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« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2012, 07:09:08 AM »
operational Alaskan snow-P40

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« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2012, 12:25:08 PM »
Congratulations, GTX and Chernaya, for your P-40 twins... :-*

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« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2012, 05:48:21 PM »
Random idea:  RR Griffon Engined P-40, possibly based on XP-40Q.

I had the griffon in mind as the power plant for a more finished version of the two place P-40 I posted on the previous page.
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2012, 02:37:13 AM »
Subtle whiff maybe...but what if the Armée de l'Air acquired some P-40s to suplement their P-36s/Hawk 75s?  Maybe a P-40A in this scheme?

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« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2012, 02:56:17 AM »
Or possibly, French P-40s, still in crates, were unpacked by conquering Germans, and sold to Finland? Croatia?...Vichy France??

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2012, 01:50:40 PM »
Or possibly, French P-40s, still in crates, were unpacked by conquering Germans, and sold to Finland? Croatia?...Vichy France??

Those ideas work too.
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« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2012, 04:16:02 AM »
That'd be lovely.    :-*
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2013, 07:08:21 AM »
P-40 and Hurricane with RR Griffon engine


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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2013, 12:40:59 PM »
I love P-40's, although I have no idea why. They just appeal to my aesthetic sense, somehow. :-*




Greg, I really like the look of this but the JMN in me was going to query whether it might not be too nose-heavy for a tail-dragger & a bit too tail-heavy for a tricycle undercarriage. Then my thinking-brain switched on & I remembered that the main wheels swing forward; so this is, actually, the perfect set-up for a tail-dragger!

Well done, that man! :D

Mind you, shortening the tail a couple of sections & lengthening the nose might make for an interesting tricycle variant. ;)

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2013, 01:06:56 PM »
2 proposals more on jet P-40: nose intake and lateral intake


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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2013, 03:22:21 AM »
Unlicensed soviet copy: P-40 powered by Klimov


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« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2013, 03:44:04 AM »
There were P-40s re-engined with a Klimov M-105, however they did not use a Yak nose.
http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=900.0

Re-engining and swapping noses are not the same thing.
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2013, 06:26:10 AM »
There were P-40s re-engined with a Klimov M-105, however they did not use a Yak nose.
http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=900.0

Re-engining and swapping noses are not the same thing.


But they could be............especially here.
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« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2013, 11:10:31 AM »
There were P-40s re-engined with a Klimov M-105, however they did not use a Yak nose.
http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=900.0

Re-engining and swapping noses are not the same thing.


But they could be............especially here.


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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2014, 02:18:25 PM »
For some time P-40 and P-47 share production lines in Buffalo Curtiss factoty. Well ... something went wrong  :o 8)

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2014, 03:50:36 PM »
P-40 + Spitfire nose



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« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2014, 12:10:13 AM »
Got some P-40s to build for Biggles...1/72nd P-40Bs; 1/48th P-40Bs and P-40Ms.

Going to do an RAF PR Blue one, as well as just swapping around a few schemes....nothing radical. I just want to put something pretty on the table.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2014, 02:22:36 AM »
P-40 + Spitfire nose

Has a somewhat Dewoitine D.520 look.
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2014, 03:01:29 AM »
Random idea:  Israeli P-40.  Maybe some leftover WWII birds from the DAF or similar are pressed into service.
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2014, 09:29:39 AM »
I wrote a MASSIVE backstory for a navalised P-40 series as the Curtiss-Fairey P-40H "Kittiwake". Five marks, all with Griffons of varying power and with clipped, folding wings - from essentially stock P-40Ms to a P-40Q-like FB.5 with contraprop.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2014, 12:38:39 PM »
Random idea:  Israeli P-40.  Maybe some leftover WWII birds from the DAF or similar are pressed into service.

Very interesting and quite appropriate I could definitely see the IAF operating Desert Air Force types initially.  Another possibility is a free French like force of Jews flying with the Desert Air Force, say due to a British commitment to form a Jewish state post war, or even Britain creates Israel, unilaterally in 1940 and arms them to fight the Italians, Germans and Vichy French.

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« Reply #56 on: January 02, 2015, 01:23:04 PM »
Random idea:  Israeli P-40.  Maybe some leftover WWII birds from the DAF or similar are pressed into service.

Very interesting and quite appropriate I could definitely see the IAF operating Desert Air Force types initially.  Another possibility is a free French like force of Jews flying with the Desert Air Force, say due to a British commitment to form a Jewish state post war, or even Britain creates Israel, unilaterally in 1940 and arms them to fight the Italians, Germans and Vichy French.

Unlikely, the Foreign Office was very pro-Arab, possibly even anti-Jewish (anti-Semitic doesn't quite work, because Arabs are a Semitic people, too), in the pre- & post-wars eras. However, in the Whif World, as we know, anything is possible.

So, if the Arabs allied themselves with the anti-Jewish Nazi's, the British may have had to arm & train Palestinian Jews to assist in countering Arab guerrillas. Thereby opening up the possibility of Britain promising & delivering Palestine as a Jewish state without the British-Jewish conflicts of the post-war era (that doesn't mean there wouldn't have been continuing British-Arab & Jewish Arab conflicts).
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2015, 09:40:58 PM »
The pro Arab sentiment in the Foreign Office has existed for decades and I really don't understand it.  Jewish terrorist were a problem during Israel's move to independence but historically their has been far more bad blood between Arabs and the British Commonwealth than with Israel.

Ironically the experience of allied forces in the middle east in WWI was that the Jewish settlers were friendly and helpful while the Arabs, who were meant to be our allies, were a real problem.  They were dangerously unreliable and brutal to the point Turkish prisoners often had to be defended by Commonwealth forces, on occasion the Turks were allowed to retain their personal weapons until they could reach secured allied positions to become POWs.  There were many cases of Arabs robbing and murdering Commonwealth troops and some brutal reprisals that saw the troops concerned punished as certain Arabs, no matter their behaviour, were Pandas.  Australia has a close, mutually respectful relationship with our former enemy, Turkey and a pretty good relationship with Israel, but Arab nations have always been hard work.  The fiction that the Arabs took Damascus and that the Arab revolt broke the back of the Ottoman Empire is a joke, as are the artificial borders through the middle east.  I understand the reasons for it but still it doesn't explain the Foreign office attitudes.

Actually I understand there was a between wars proposal to establish a semi-independent Jewish state in the north of Western Australia.  Now if this had occurred we could have had Israeli RAAF squadrons flying P-40s with the desert air force in WWII.  Such an arrangement would have made our recent resources boom very interesting with some very wealthy, powerful Australians developing some very, Foreign Office like, anti Jewish Sentiment.  I imagine a modern Jewish state would be much harder to disenfranchise and relocate than indigenous communities.
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2015, 02:55:18 AM »
Guys, let's keep the discussion to the P-40 please.  My suggestion was simply based on the idea that some could have still been in the region rather than any actual sale.
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« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2015, 01:27:00 PM »
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« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2015, 01:47:04 PM »
Getting back on topic:  what about a subtle whiff of a P-40 fitted with the 40mm cannon of the Hurricane Mk IID (shown below):

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« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2015, 01:49:47 PM »
Alternatively,  what about a high altitude one (possibly in recon role) with extended wings and turbosupercharged V-1710 using elements from P-38?
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« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2015, 01:53:24 PM »
Getting back on topic:  what about a subtle whiff of a P-40 fitted with the 40mm cannon of the Hurricane Mk IID (shown below):




I would love to see a P-40 with this!

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« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2015, 02:12:09 PM »
Getting back on topic:  what about a subtle whiff of a P-40 fitted with the 40mm cannon of the Hurricane Mk IID (shown below):



Not that outlandish since they were trialed on Mustang I's.  Would look good on P-40D's, E's, and later.

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« Reply #64 on: January 04, 2015, 02:13:13 PM »
Alternatively,  what about a high altitude one (possibly in recon role) with extended wings and turbosupercharged V-1710 using elements from P-38?
Turbocharger along-side the engine as on the XP-40 or perhaps fitted under the rear fuselage as on the P-47?

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« Reply #65 on: January 04, 2015, 04:58:08 PM »
I was thinking under the fuselage all P-47.

In effect, we would be re-inventing the XP-37 (see below), but doing so in a more refined/graceful form.

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« Reply #66 on: January 04, 2015, 10:32:58 PM »
I actually prefer the look of the earlier Tomahawk to the latter Kittyhawk or Warhawk, but the P-40N runs a close second.

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« Reply #67 on: January 07, 2015, 05:08:54 PM »
How about a P-40 with underwing rockets?
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« Reply #68 on: January 07, 2015, 05:12:33 PM »
How about a P-40 with underwing rockets?

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« Reply #69 on: January 07, 2015, 05:17:55 PM »
I was thinking of something more like this:

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« Reply #70 on: January 07, 2015, 10:11:06 PM »
I'm going to put Tiny Tim rockets on my P-40Q based Antares MK. III
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #71 on: January 07, 2015, 10:14:38 PM »
I was thinking of something more like this:




I'm surprised they never did fit rockets to the P-40 considering its considerable ground attack role.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #72 on: January 08, 2015, 02:29:24 AM »
Do a bit of researching and look what one finds:

Russian P-40 with rails for six RS-82 rockets:




And P-40Ns with Rocket tubes:





It might still be cool to do a subtle whiff of a RAF or RAAF P-40 with British rockets (as per below) though:

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« Reply #73 on: January 08, 2015, 04:42:39 AM »
Rockets on a P-40 sounds great! British or US.

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« Reply #74 on: January 08, 2015, 05:25:01 AM »
Double-mod: Soviet M-105-powered P-40 with RS-82 rails, either in Soviet markings or seconded to, say, the AVG.

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« Reply #75 on: May 26, 2015, 04:32:42 AM »
Does anyone know if you can get a kit or conversion of the twin seat P-40...preferably in 1/48:

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« Reply #76 on: May 26, 2015, 07:15:21 AM »
I'm pretty certain there's a mod kit in 1/72 (LF Models?) but I don't know about 1/48.

I just checked, LF Models does a TP-40M, a TP-40N, and a Soviet Klimov-powered P-40EA two-seater.
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« Reply #77 on: May 26, 2015, 05:40:57 PM »
OK, Greg is officially in a twin-seater-manic phase. :-\
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« Reply #78 on: May 27, 2015, 02:50:44 AM »
OK, Greg is officially in a twin-seater-manic phase. :-\

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OK, Greg is officially in a twin-seater-manic phase. :-\

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Very intriguing!  8)
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« Reply #82 on: February 05, 2016, 03:42:03 AM »
I do love the Q, and Freightdog has the lovely 1/72 Pegasus kit for a very reasonable price.

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« Reply #83 on: May 18, 2016, 03:10:42 AM »
Random idea:  P-40 float plane using same floats as Spitfire shown below

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #84 on: May 13, 2018, 04:17:40 AM »
Potentially a Naval P-40 would be designated (if it had served with the USN and thus received a USN designation) the F14C-?. Now, doesn't that make you want to whiff one up even more?

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« Reply #85 on: May 20, 2018, 01:48:01 AM »
Some cool P-40Q photos:

Initial XP-40Q-1:




The more refined XP-40Q-2 after modification with a bubble canopy:



XP-40Q-2A with clipped wings:





The last of the Curtiss P-40Qs: the XP-40Q-3:



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« Reply #86 on: May 20, 2018, 04:43:46 AM »
They're commonly misidentified/mislabeled:
1st is XP-40Q-2 (modified P-40K 42-9987)
2nd is XP-40Q-2A (modified P-40K-1 42-45722)
3rd is XP-40Q-3 (modified P-40N-25 43-24571)

Q-2 and Q-2A were initially listed as P-40Ks in Air Force records,
the Q-3 was the only one listed as XP-40Q from the start. The
XP-40Q-2/-2A/-3 designations were appended by Curtiss and the
Flight Test Engineering Branch at Wright Field

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« Reply #87 on: May 20, 2018, 06:52:52 AM »
IMO P-40Q is absolutely cool. 8) 8) 8)

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« Reply #88 on: October 27, 2018, 02:41:47 AM »
Crossind late P-40 and early P-51