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gofy

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P-40 Ideas
« on: February 22, 2012, 12:33:32 PM »
-Jet P-40

-Navalized P-40

-XP-40 (no chin intake) W/ Merlin

-Turboprop

-??

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2012, 03:14:51 AM »
Klimov.  Red Stars. 

Or did that actually happen in the real world?   
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2012, 06:36:37 AM »
Or did that actually happen in the real world?   


Yep, the 2-seat P-40EA was refitted with a Klimov VK-105. There's even a 1/72 resin kit:
http://www.lfmodels.com/curtiss-p40ea-double-seat-klimov-p-38.html
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2012, 08:19:17 AM »
I've always wanted to use the two seat conversion kit for a float plane akin to the a high performance Kingfisher.  Sourcing the conversion kit and some floats in the US has always been the issue though  :icon_twisted:
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 09:39:48 AM »
I am planning to build a post-war F-40K ROKAF (Pepsi Logo) with 5" rockets.
Work in progress ::

I am giving up listing them. They all end up on the shelf of procrastination anyways.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 09:55:08 AM »
Klimov.  Red Stars.  <...>

Klimov no, Red Stars yes.

Something Greg did:



Got the kits for this, just need the time and place.  :)

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 10:09:41 AM »
I do love that one.  Going from radial to inline was the worst thing they did for that airframe.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2012, 02:49:36 PM »
Hispano 12Y on a spatted Hawk 75 M/N/O and in French livery.   

And I just gotta say it:  Fabric wings!    8) 8) 8)
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2012, 11:33:46 AM »
Hispano 12Y on a spatted Hawk 75 M/N/O and in French livery.   

And I just gotta say it:  Fabric wings!    8) 8) 8)
Captured version of same transferred to Finland by the Germans and re-engined with a captured Klimov VK-105; much like what the Finns did to make the Morko-Moraine.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2012, 10:53:56 PM »
MiG 3 nose on P-40

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2012, 02:56:03 AM »
MiG 3 nose on P-40


Would look a bit like the XP-37:


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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2012, 01:46:04 PM »
Folks,

I always did like what Curtiss did with its P-36 airframe before it settled down on the P-40.  The look of that really long nose with the cockpit set so far back just emphasized the massiveness of the engine.  Even though in total horsepower it was less than what was routinely in the air just a few years later, the look of those birds just screamed brute power.

It was the proportions of the thing.  We're used to the cockpit of those sort of aircraft being in about a certain place.  And that anything ahead of the cockpit was all engine - correctly or incorrectly.  Thus, setting the cockpit that far back meant - by perception alone if nothing else - that the plane had to have an absolutely humungous engine up there!

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2012, 03:32:08 AM »
The X/YP-37 engine was no longer than than any other C-series Allison, the
exaggerated length appearance is because the turbo-supercharger intercooler
and the engine radiator are installed behind the engine. Thus the requirement
to move the cockpit aft.



... and P&W's R-1830 powered take on a radial engined Hawk 81/P-40, evidently it regularly out flew Merlin powered P-40Fs
stationed at a nearby base:


Drawings of the X/YP-37 and P&W aircraft are on this page:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/AirWar/52/Draw/index.htm

BTW the C-series V-1710 and the AM-35A are very similar in size, with the Allison slightly longer.
V-1710C: L 250.3 cm (98.54 in.), W 74.4 cm (29.29 in.), H 106.4 cm (41.88 in.)
 AM-35A: L 240.2 cm (94.57 in.), W 86.6 cm (34.09 in.), H 108.9 cm (42.87 in.)

However, the AM-35A, is about 490 pounds heavier at 830 kg(1,829 lbs) vs. 608kg
(1,340 lbs) for the Allison.
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2012, 06:36:09 AM »
... and P&W's R-1830 powered take on a radial engined Hawk 81/P-40, evidently it regularly out flew Merlin powered P-40Fs
stationed at a nearby base:



Now that is nice.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2012, 06:41:17 AM »
Now a model of that would fool some people.
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