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Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« on: July 12, 2014, 06:24:23 AM »
A thread for your Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration.

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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2014, 06:27:54 AM »
Starting with the most famous of them all - the Me 163 Komet.  I didn't realise there was a flying (unpowered) replica:



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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2014, 06:42:31 AM »
Link your story about the Rocket Fleas Greg  8)
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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2014, 06:52:47 AM »
Link your story about the Rocket Fleas Greg  8)


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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2014, 06:56:51 AM »
You got it!
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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2014, 10:10:49 AM »
Starting with the most famous of them all - the Me 163 Komet.  I didn't realise there was a flying (unpowered) replica: <...>

I wonder... would it be possible to build a safe powered version of that beast with today's technology? Different propellants, sturdier components not as prone to rupturing, safe ways to dump fuel(s),....?
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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2014, 07:50:18 PM »
Starting with the most famous of them all - the Me 163 Komet.  I didn't realise there was a flying (unpowered) replica: <...>

I wonder... would it be possible to build a safe powered version of that beast with today's technology? Different propellants, sturdier components not as prone to rupturing, safe ways to dump fuel(s),....?

Key would be different propellants.  You'd really want to build a new, clean slate design to take best advantage of it though.   The SR.53 showed it could be done.

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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2014, 03:22:19 AM »
I wonder... would it be possible to build a safe powered version of that beast with today's technology? Different propellants, sturdier components not as prone to rupturing, safe ways to dump fuel(s),....?


Most definitely could be done.  I would probably look to use something like the XCOR rocket propulsion system as being developed for the Rocket Racing League.  This uses either isopropyl alcohol or ethanol and liquid oxygen and thus is arguably safer than the T-Stoff (Hydrogen peroxide) oxidizer and C-Stoff (hydrazine hydrate/alcohol mix) used by the Me163 during the war.  You also have the advantage of decades of design/construction experience to add to the mix.  The XCOR rocket has been used in the Mark-III X-Racer demonstration vehicle:

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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2014, 04:56:07 AM »
Interesting proposal (click on image for more details):

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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2014, 05:11:49 AM »
Very nice, very nice.....so recovery is handled by an extra large, fold out dartboard, I presume...

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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2014, 06:32:30 AM »
I find it VERY interesting that a DD-692/710 Class Destroyer would be a suitable operator of these things....
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2014, 12:38:21 PM »
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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2014, 04:28:32 PM »
I wonder... would it be possible to build a safe powered version of that beast with today's technology? Different propellants, sturdier components not as prone to rupturing, safe ways to dump fuel(s),....?


Most definitely could be done.  I would probably look to use something like the XCOR rocket propulsion system as being developed for the Rocket Racing League.  This uses either isopropyl alcohol or ethanol and liquid oxygen and thus is arguably safer than the T-Stoff (Hydrogen peroxide) oxidizer and C-Stoff (hydrazine hydrate/alcohol mix) used by the Me163 during the war.  You also have the advantage of decades of design/construction experience to add to the mix.  The XCOR rocket has been used in the Mark-III X-Racer demonstration vehicle:




I so hope someone does a 163 with this rocket.  :)

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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2014, 02:17:34 AM »
If you are willing to pay…I will do it... ;)
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2014, 11:40:49 AM »
If you are willing to pay…I will do it... ;)

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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2018, 09:15:29 PM »
German Rocket Fighters


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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2018, 05:24:41 PM »
As apparently "modern" catapults derive from V-1's and the  British invented angled decks as a must for flexible decks they were inspired to develop after the discovery of Me-163, Germans on Graf Zeppelin facing Cutlasses (superior) from America.

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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2020, 03:43:21 AM »
Seeing these (click to see larger versions):





Makes me wonder about a similar themed civilian Me163...
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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2022, 03:18:03 AM »
Possible diorama idea:

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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2022, 01:52:50 AM »
Combine the Tamiya 1/48 CCKW kits - closed cab from refueling tanker mounted on cargo version,
add a 1/48 Komet and yer done, if you want a real world diorama replication of the photo.
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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2022, 03:37:27 AM »
 :smiley:
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Re: Rocket Fighters Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2023, 11:28:56 AM »
Interesting 1944 concept.  Dr Alex Tremulis was a car designer for Crysler & Tucker befor being seconded to the USAAC design section during WW2.

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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2023, 01:32:58 AM »
Interesting 1944 concept.  Dr Alex Tremulis was a car designer for Crysler & Tucker befor being seconded to the USAAC design section during WW2.

Fantastic Plastic did do a 1/48 kit of this:



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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2023, 01:39:02 AM »
Let's not forget the Russian Bereznyak-Isayev BI-1:





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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2023, 03:24:42 AM »
There's got to be a way to put a weapon on an X-15  ;D