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« Reply #100 on: August 23, 2015, 11:23:17 AM »
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #101 on: August 27, 2015, 05:57:08 AM »


I'm in love  :-* Always liked the enigma too
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #102 on: August 27, 2015, 04:45:46 PM »
The T-54 originally entered service in 1946.  What if in a different sort of extended WWII into 1946, some were captured by the Germans and used, just like earlier T-34s etc were.

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« Reply #103 on: August 27, 2015, 05:43:07 PM »
I think that the T-44 might have been more likely as it was just entering service in 1945...


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« Reply #104 on: August 28, 2015, 03:00:44 AM »
I think that the T-44 might have been more likely as it was just entering service in 1945...


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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #105 on: August 28, 2015, 09:20:00 AM »
Captured T-34-85 and T-44 upgunned with variant of KwK 43 originally intended for Schmalturm.
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« Reply #106 on: August 29, 2015, 07:32:31 AM »
Further to the above, here are some real world upgrades:

Slovenian M-55S
:  The original 100 mm tank gun was replaced by the 105 mm one with a thermal sleeve. The armour protection of the tank was improved considerably by attaching Rafael ERA blocks to the hull and the turret. A digital ballistic computer was installed in order to improve the fire control system (FCS). Modernization of the V-12 diesel engine resulted in an increase in power from 520 hp to 600 hp.




I think that this upgrade might be one of the best looking ones out there for the T-55. Now put a NATO compatible 120 mm smooth bore on it and it would be great. I figure if the Ukrainians can do it then the Israelis certainly can as well. Of course I am not sure how useful it would be fighting from a good hull down position as most Soviet era tanks have dismal gum depression.

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« Reply #107 on: August 30, 2015, 04:10:15 AM »
A couple more M-55S photos:




You can get a 1/35 conversion kit for it:



Though it is rare as Hen's teeth and I haven't seen too many positive comments about the quality.

It is a pity someone such as Legend haven't done one since they already do the T-55AMB2 conversion:

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« Reply #108 on: August 30, 2015, 07:55:22 AM »
^ Can't be too long now till Trumpeter realizes the sales potential of a new family of T-54/55 kits - and will then give us a dozen different boxings.
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« Reply #109 on: August 30, 2015, 08:19:14 AM »
^ Can't be too long now till Trumpeter realizes the sales potential of a new family of T-54/55 kits - and will then give us a dozen different boxings.

One can but hope!  There are just so many variants especially if one starts including the Chinese Type 59 derivatives.
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #110 on: August 30, 2015, 08:39:19 AM »
Speaking of T-55s, I really like the look of the Peruvian T-55M1 (Leon):



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« Reply #111 on: August 30, 2015, 09:13:09 AM »
Thank you for the additional pictures. I just think that of all of the conversions adding armour the M-55S just looks the most like it came straight from the factory instead of just adding armour on. I did not know about the A.E.F. conversion kit. I will be keeping my eyes out for one. It would be great if Trumpeter came out with a version of it. Tamiya makes the Enigma after all.

The Peruvian version is also interesting with the ATGMs on it. I'd be worried about them getting hit by either shrapnel or auto-cannon rounds and detonating though. Though the jet from the shaped charge is aimed away from the carrier tank at least.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #112 on: August 30, 2015, 08:02:46 PM »
Is there anything that Peru hasn't put Saggers on? I'm waiting with baited breath to see their Sagger-armed bicycles..... ;)
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #113 on: August 31, 2015, 01:11:35 AM »
Which of Peru's neighbors could Peru prevail over, militarily? Brazil and even Columbia are out of the question. Chile is better armed (weapon system-wise). That only leaves internal threats (Shining Path revival?) and their old standby enemy, Ecuador.  I doubt a Sagger would be effective against anything/anyone with post 1970s weaponry or training. Maybe they just like video games?

Still, cool camo on basically unmodified T-55s!

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #115 on: August 31, 2015, 05:15:37 AM »
Tamiya makes the Enigma after all.

The Peruvian version is also interesting with the ATGMs on it. I'd be worried about them getting hit by either shrapnel or auto-cannon rounds and detonating though. Though the jet from the shaped charge is aimed away from the carrier tank at least.


I'm kind of thinking......

Malyutka is said to be one of the cheapest ATGMs around.

I wonder if it'd still be true for Malyutka M2T, which has the warhead taken from MILAN 2T......



I can't think of a backstory for it, but how would a T-55 Leon 1 re-armed with Malyutka M2T on ATGM rails and upgraded with Enigma armours have sounded?

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I think that this upgrade might be one of the best looking ones out there for the T-55. Now put a NATO compatible 120 mm smooth bore on it and it would be great. I figure if the Ukrainians can do it then the Israelis certainly can as well. Of course I am not sure how useful it would be fighting from a good hull down position as most Soviet era tanks have dismal gum depression.


PRC came up with one such 120mm gun.



The caption says:

"59-120 is a modification built on a basic Type 59.  The fire control system was not correspondingly upgraded.  This is a proof of concept vehicle intended to demonstrate that it is possible to fit a 120mm or larger gun to a Type 59 without major modifications to the turret."

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Apparently Israel didn't leave T-72 alone, either.


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« Reply #116 on: September 01, 2015, 02:23:23 AM »
That Israeli T-72 looks to be the IMI Upgraded one.  Specs are here

and another image:

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #117 on: September 01, 2015, 02:30:50 AM »
Speaking of T-72 upgrades, does anyone know if this was real?



Supposedly shows model of Romanian T-72 with French GIAT T 21 turret

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« Reply #118 on: September 01, 2015, 02:38:07 AM »
And another:  the Croatian M-95 Degman is a modernisation of the Yugoslav M-84 tank, which is, in turn, a variant of the Soviet T-72:


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« Reply #119 on: September 01, 2015, 02:40:48 AM »
and back to modelling news:



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« Reply #120 on: September 01, 2015, 06:04:16 AM »
that Armata does look very cool - unfortunately the turret is a fake to hide the real shape etc so the actual version will probably be quite boring.

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« Reply #121 on: September 01, 2015, 10:32:18 AM »
And if the stock T-54/55 or Type 59/69 turret is for any reason not desirable enough, one can always fit the entire turret from PTZ-89 to put a 120mm gun onto the old tank chassis.
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« Reply #122 on: September 01, 2015, 03:08:36 PM »
Some mods for Finnish BMP 2: camo panels + reduced IR signature, new sensors...


http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2015030319292768_uu.shtml

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« Reply #123 on: September 02, 2015, 03:05:49 AM »
unfortunately the turret is a fake to hide the real shape etc

Reference for this claim?
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« Reply #124 on: September 02, 2015, 04:01:59 AM »
An oft overlooked one:  the T-62.  Here is an upgraded one:



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