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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2012, 04:25:15 AM »
Couple of real world proposals/developments:

120mm Main Gun T-72:




T-72 IFV (ala Merkava)

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2012, 02:38:32 PM »
Here's a firekiller built on an old T-50 MBT chassis. I think the conversion is done by a Slovak outfit:




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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2012, 02:45:47 PM »
Here's some views of the current Czech army MBT, the T-72 M4CZ:









and a recovery vehicle built on the T-72 chassis:

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2012, 10:09:36 PM »
Came across this somewhere on the web, Nice idea.


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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2012, 10:12:53 PM »
Here are a fist full of different ones:

Not implemented projects tanks and other armored vehicles of the USSR. (123)
http://www.alternathistory.org.ua/taxonomy/term/167

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2012, 01:55:55 AM »
 Thats a terrific resource, Abtex, Thank-you! Look around in there, colleagues-everything from wheeled landships to tiny assault guns, to the 'rocket-torpedo' armed BT-5 ( available as a kit from UM. )

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2012, 11:04:29 AM »
No Shermans GB,


interesting.....what if as some kind of lend-lease payback the Soviets gave the Americans the plans/rights to T34?...maybe improved the design for western use?


Or maybe the Americans would entertain the idea of either building British designs in their factory or produce tanks with British influence?

Hum...... widened and/or lengthened Cavalier/Cromwell hull with T23 turret......?


The above suggestion was made in Ideas and Suggestions for GBs/Themed Builds discussion that the Russian T-34 be produced by the allies instead of the Sherman. 

So how about a T-34/85 armed with the 17pounder from the Sherman Firefly?  Add on the various features found on the Sherman and paint it up in the country of your choice. 
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2012, 12:41:30 AM »
Perhaps in a "not-invented-here" vein similar to the German attitude that produced the Panther, the Allied designers would insist on "improving" the T-34. The thing you SHOULDN'T mess with is it's mobility, so the wide tracks, Christie suspension and 500bhp engine would stay. For an allied version to be available in time to be useful, it would have to be supplied pretty early, so the exemplar vehicle would likely be a T-34/76, whose 2-man turret wouldn't be popular. You might therefore see the Western T-34 having straighter hull sides and a bigger 3-man turret along the lines of the Sherman.
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2012, 07:40:25 AM »
Russian experimental tanks.
russian experimental tanks


There was an ISU 152/1. It was an ISU 152,but with a much longer barrel. PST makes/made it in braille scale. I would love to model a T44,and have it armed with a 100mm. I have a DML IS-2. That will be armed with a 100mm.
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2012, 04:20:00 PM »
Accurate Armour do a 1/35 T-44 kit - see here

I have one that I want to do as part of a diorama.  The idea is for WWIII in the late'40s/early '50s (maybe even as an outgrowth of Korea) with the tank displayed in a Berlin setting against some sort of allied tank ( any suggestions?)
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2012, 06:22:13 AM »
Accurate Armour do a 1/35 T-44 kit - see here

I have one that I want to do as part of a diorama.  The idea is for WWIII in the late'40s/early '50s (maybe even as an outgrowth of Korea) with the tank displayed in a Berlin setting against some sort of allied tank ( any suggestions?)


Thanks for the T-44 info. :)

Maybe have it face off an M46? Or a Centurion?
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2012, 06:30:14 AM »
They were options but I was tending towards something more exotic/odder...just don't know what yet.  Maybe an updated E-100 or Conqueror tank (bit early I know) or Tortoise Superheavy Tank or Caernarvon tank...
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2012, 05:23:47 PM »
I have a question: how would stand Object 279 fuselage as a mine/IED-proof vehicle in modern, Afghanistan-like environment? For me it looks pretty thought for withstanding explosion underneath it and saving crew. Only issue may be complex tracks system.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2012, 01:06:46 AM »
I have a question: how would stand Object 279 fuselage as a mine/IED-proof vehicle in modern, Afghanistan-like environment? For me it looks pretty thought for withstanding explosion underneath it and saving crew. Only issue may be complex tracks system.

A copper shaped charge would probably penetrate into the tank if it used 1950s steel; modern metals and ceramics would be an improvement. The hull shape could deflect much of a blast from directly below or from the side. The tracks may help by absorbing some of the blast (and hurt by producing lots of steel shrapnel)  but the tank would probably be immobilized.