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Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« on: January 19, 2012, 06:44:43 PM »
Hi folks,

A thread for your Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration.

To start with, I have always liked the look of the T-72 Moderna modification.



Speaking of which, does anyone know of a conversion in 1/35?

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 08:45:06 PM »
I thought Panzershop may have had one, but a look into their site suggests not, which is a great pity as it's a great looking piece of hardware.

I'd also like to see a BMP-T conversion too as that too is a wild looking ride.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 08:54:23 AM »
I did not illustrate the presence of an aft ramp, but how about a proper counterpart to Merkava by reversing the chassis?



Does anyone know what other land-based AFVs also use the Oerlikon KAA?
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 01:08:33 PM »
I did not illustrate the presence of an aft ramp, but how about a proper counterpart to Merkava by reversing the chassis?



Does anyone know what other land-based AFVs also use the Oerlikon KAA?


Whoa! What did you do to make that exactly?  :-*
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 05:01:42 AM »
I've always liked the funky Grotte TG-1.





Some drawings here:
http://www.smcars.net/forums/tanks/9926-tg-experimental-heavy-tank.html

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2012, 05:08:02 AM »
And who said vodka was bad...
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2012, 05:31:38 AM »
Su-14 family of experimental super-heavy SPGs:
http://bronetehnika.narod.ru/su14/su14.html


SU-14-BR-2, 203mm gun, T-35 chassis.
This monster is in the Kubinka Museum:


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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2012, 05:35:46 AM »
Is big..is Russian...is good!  Da?!
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2012, 05:41:49 AM »
The whole site from whence the SU-14 stuff originated is simply wonderful:
http://www.bronetehnika.narod.ru/

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2012, 07:31:32 AM »
Whoa! What did you do to make that exactly?  :-*

I just reversed the wheels and tracks as well as the relative position of the turret from the T-72-120 line drawing (leaving the sand shields be though) and then drew the hull top outlines using the Merkava for reference.
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2012, 08:32:50 AM »
I wonder if KV-1S is big enough to take a KV-5 turret:


And then given my fascination with tanks having MG-armed sub-turrets and all:



...... wouldn't a T-28 equipped with KV suspension AND a 95mm main gun just kick-a*s (although its armour would be equivalent to early-Pz.IV at best)?
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 04:44:25 AM »
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this one yet - Object 279:









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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2012, 08:16:51 AM »
Although arguably a hybrid of T-55 and M60 (as in Patton, provided by the US that believed the Sino-Soviet Split to be the beginning of a beautiful friendship) tanks by this point, there is the ZTZ-88/-88A/-88B from the PRC.

And then I did see fit to cook up a breakthrough tank version packing a 122mm gun, in the same vein as the Obyekt 430U.

« Last Edit: February 12, 2012, 10:24:39 AM by dy031101 »
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2012, 09:39:22 AM »
 This is shaping up to be a terrific thread-I've been wanting a good set of plan views for the TG-1 for years. Thanks, JCF!

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 09:56:46 AM »
I'd also like to see a BMP-T conversion too as that too is a wild looking ride.

S.P. Designs do a conversion - purchase his stuff at the Sargeant at Arms website.  I heard that SP Design's newer stuff is almost as good as AA and he does many of the odd modern Soviet vehicles.