Author Topic: Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen  (Read 6032 times)

Offline ysi_maniac

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Merging Bismarck and Wisconsin. I particularly love germanized turrets  :)


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Re: Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2014, 09:20:34 PM »
This is, more or less, my idea about a post WWII Battleship, equipped with guns and missiles. Perhaps with nuclear capability.



Mainly done with Scharnhorst and Moskva bits.

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Re: Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2014, 02:55:54 AM »
Anti Shipping V-1 derivatives or perhaps “Zitteroschen” supersonic anti-shipping missiles plus V-2s?
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Re: Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2014, 02:36:14 AM »
Anti Shipping V-1 derivatives or perhaps “Zitteroschen” supersonic anti-shipping missiles plus V-2s?

So they'd just fire the V-1s etc. in the general direction of the enemy? And hope for the best?  ???
OK, I guess, if your enemy is in port and not moving.

Guided surface-to-surface against moving targets was just a dream in the period and nobody,
not even der Übermenschen, was even close to a solution.
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Re: Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2014, 05:13:52 AM »
Bah!  There you go again with that 'reality' thing.... ;)
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Re: Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2014, 05:25:11 AM »
Well, I suppose you could use the piloted version.  ;D
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Re: Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2017, 05:56:32 AM »
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

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Re: Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2017, 07:39:06 AM »
Dang,,, is that nice or what !

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Re: Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2018, 09:05:14 AM »
A RW project: Scharnhorst/Gneisenau with 15 inch guns. Original and upgunned.


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Re: Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2018, 12:50:05 AM »
Anti Shipping V-1 derivatives or perhaps “Zitteroschen” supersonic anti-shipping missiles plus V-2s?


V-1s would be ambitious for use against capital ships on the horizon, if a Fritz-X guidance system was grafted onto them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_X

 
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Fritz-X was steered by the bombardier in the launching aircraft over a radio link between the aircraft's Kehl transmitter and the weapon's Straßburg receiver. The bombardier had to be able to see the target at all times, and like the Azon ordnance, the Fritz-X bomb had a flare in the tail so it could be seen from the controlling aircraft for its MCLOS-form guidance to control it properly. The disadvantage with this — in comparison to fully autonomous-guidance glide bombs like the operational U.S. Navy's Bat radar-homing glide bomb, used against Japan in 1944-45 — were that the aircraft had to be flown toward the target on a steady course and that as the missile neared its target it became possible to misguide by jamming its radio channel.


Still retaining those seaplanes, huh?


Kehl transmitter.
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Kehl-Strasbourg_radio_control_link.html
« Last Edit: March 07, 2018, 12:58:11 AM by Story »

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Re: Schlachtschiffe Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau und Scharnhorst ideen
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2018, 06:29:15 PM »
Alternative main artillery for Bismarck.

Insert: What I considered turrets could look with all big guns german designers considered during WWII, they also considered 2 gun turrets only.

In this line, I envisaged posibilities to intall them on a Bismarck hull. 15 inch is included for comparison purposes.