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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2012, 02:36:48 AM »
Not necessarily inspiring though perhaps of use for detailing: http://igor113.livejournal.com/27473.html
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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2012, 11:53:58 AM »
The question began when I remembered reading somewhere that Yak-41 (a.k.a. Yak-141) is primarily intended for shore-based operation as its exhaust heat is considered too hot even for the heat-resistant materials available for the former Soviets to build flight decks with.

I wonder if having the aircraft hovering alongside the ship rather than directly over the ship itself would help alleviate the problem......

Also, is there other STOVL designs (East and West, of all timeframes) that might have the same "too hot for carrier flight deck" problem?  I mean Mirage IIIV, VJ-101, D188A, and a few others from the West also uses liftjets.  How far along is the West when it comes to making heat-resistant flight deck?

Actually, how different a challenge is fabricating a flight deck capable of supporting the above-mentioned aircraft from, say, the jet blast deflectors on CATOBAR or STOBAR carriers?
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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2012, 12:30:08 PM »
I suspect that a naval P.1154 taking off with full PCB engaged would quite warm up a deck.

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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2012, 09:41:00 AM »
How much demand would rolling takeoff bring to a flight deck compared to hovering?

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My first thought when seeing the attached picture is "why would you put a proper through-deck and skijump together with skyhook cranes?"

What's your opinion?
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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2012, 03:11:51 AM »
Maybe to use the skyhook for landings but to use the ski-jump for takeoffs since it allows potentially a greater payload to be carried.
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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2012, 03:32:58 AM »
Useful comparison between the old HMAS Melbourne, the recently retired HMAS Kanimbla and the new Canberra class LHDs (also shown at the bottom) being acquired by the RAN:





Now, I wonder...what about a CVL based on the Canberra class/Juan Carlos class...

Remove the ski jump, add an angled deck, add catapults and arrestor gear...
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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2012, 03:40:09 AM »
ONLY if you knock the height of the deck down by a large amount.  Holy gigantic radar signature Batman!!!!  They might as well paint giant bulls-eyes on the sides....
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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2012, 08:25:39 PM »
ONLY if you knock the height of the deck down by a large amount.  Holy gigantic radar signature Batman!!!!  They might as well paint giant bulls-eyes on the sides....

Remember , its not the size - its the angles.

Why does that sound like it could really be smut-tied?

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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2012, 02:31:22 AM »

Remember , its not the size - its the angles.

Why does that sound like it could really be smut-tied?

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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2012, 11:33:30 PM »
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but these pics landed in my inbox today, China's new carrier.

Thing is, is this for real or what -----

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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2012, 12:05:33 AM »
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but these pics landed in my inbox today, China's new carrier.

Thing is, is this for real or what -----

  I would say its a what-if (Sorry about using the W- word here !) of some origin. The Carnival Cruise Ship bridge is pretty cool though. I wonder if there is a jacuzzi on it somewhere - I would add one!

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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2012, 04:25:21 AM »
Thing is, is this for real or what -----


Its about as real as this being the new Japanese battleship:


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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2012, 05:35:54 AM »
it's as real as the Chinese copy of the B2 bomber et al that appears on t'Net ;)

Would be cool tho ! Just the thing DML should put out as a kit :P
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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2012, 07:10:17 AM »
  I would say its a what-if (Sorry about using the W- word here !)

There is no reason to apologise!  We do focus on whatif style modelling here in all its forms.  There is absolutely no monopoly upon the term and thus there is no reason to not use it here.
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Re: Aircraft Carrier Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2012, 07:12:52 AM »
Thing is, is this for real or what -----


Its about as real as this being the new Japanese battleship:




Appropriate response.  Some of these Chinese fan art style creations that pop up every few months really belong more in the world of Manga then anywhere else.  I remember this particular one going round with a fanciful email telling everyone to be afraid... ;D
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