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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #1770 on: May 10, 2018, 03:32:10 AM »
And a pair of Ilmavoimat Fokker G.1As ... just 'cuz.

As before, this is based upon a Chris Sandham-Bailey sideview (in this case, of a Luftwaffe G.1A). In this scenario, the German's are passing along previously captured aircraft to allies in preparation for Unternehmen Barbarossa.

(Top) Ex-Flugzeugführerschule (B) 8 Fokker G.1A in Ilmavoimat service, August 1942. FG-8 would be lost during a strafing attack on the Murmansk railway in February 1943.

(Bottom) Ilmavoimat Fokker G.1A after mid-1943 refurbishment and modification by the VL state aircraft factory. Mods include twin 20 mm guns [1] added to the forward-firing armament, wing bomb-racks, dust filters on the carb intakes, etc.
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[1] Cannons were either 20 ItK/39 Madsen or aircraft-adapted 20 ItK/40 VKT 'Vekotin' guns.
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #1771 on: May 11, 2018, 12:27:41 AM »
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #1772 on: May 12, 2018, 03:20:43 AM »
Inspired by Carlos' single-seat Tornado ...

Panavia 100 Panther

The Panavia 100 single-seat fighter was a real project. In the early days of the Multi-Role Combat Aircraft, the Panavia 100 was developed alongside its 2-seat Panavia 200 counterpart. So, what if the development of the Panavia 100 had continued?

Panavia's object was maximum commonality between its single- and 2-seat aircraft. Invariably, though, external differences beyond the canopies would begin to appear by the time the go-ahead for the single-seat version was issued by German and Italy in 1974. [1] The production Panavia 100 Panther had a shorter forward fuselage than the 2-seat Panavia 200 Tornado. The radomes were also of a subtlely different shape. [2] Harder to notice was that the Panther's vertical tail had a slightly narrower chord than that of the bigger Tornado.

In both German Luftwaffe and Italian AMI service, the Panavia 100s replaced F-104 Starfighters in the fighter-bomber role. In effect, the Panther followed the pattern of the Soviet Flogger series - designed as a variable-geometry frontal fighter (the MiG-23) but finding its forté as a ground-attack aircraft (the MiG-27).

Shown here is a Luftwaffe Panavia Panther in a well-worn Norm 90J camouflage scheme. On the vertical tail, MARINE titles have been crudely overpainted and JaBoG 33 markings applied. [3] The rather scruffy appearance of this heavily-used German Panther contrasts with the generally neat condition of Italian Panteras.
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[1] Canada withdrew very early in MRCA development while the United Kingdom participated only in the 2-seat Tornado section of this programme.

[2] The two aircraft used completely different radar systems - Tornados having Texas Instruments multi-mode terrain-following sets, Panthers having the Ferranti AI.23P Airpass III monopulse radar.

[3] All Marinefliegergeschwader 1 Panthers were transferred to the Luftwaffe in exchange for used Tornado IDS.
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #1773 on: May 12, 2018, 03:33:47 AM »
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #1774 on: May 15, 2018, 04:29:57 AM »
A quickie retouch for Tophe (in absentia) ... a twin-boomed Stearman XA-21.
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« Reply #1775 on: May 15, 2018, 04:32:47 AM »
... and another quickie retouch. This is the first of two prototype Handley Page H.P.101 military transports. Like BOAC's H.P.97 'Pacific' airliner upon which it was based, the H.P.101 used the powerplant, wings, and tail unit from the H.P.80 Victor bomber. The H.P.101 differed from the H.P.97 in having clamshell rear loading door for cargo instead of a lower passenger deck.

The first prototype H.P.101 had square-cut windows similar to those of de Havilland Comet 1. Fortunately, Handley Page was able to learn from DH's misfortune. The first prototype was soon grounded and replaced on trials by the revised second prototype. The first prototype was then used for stress testing after donating many of its major components to the first production example.

The production-model Handley Page Harrow C.Mk.1A entered RAF service in 1958. These aircraft differed from the prototypes mainly in having enlarged tailplane 'bullets' and Comet 4-style mid-span fuel tanks. The Harrow C.1As were used primarily for trooping - especially on Mid-East and UN deployments. The RAF had other trooping transports but the Harrow C.1A had the advantage of being able to carry 85 fully-equipped troops ... with all their equipment, weapons, and supplies stowed on the lower level.

A Harrow C.2 was proposed which was to employ the longer-span wings of the Victor B.2 along with that bomber's Rolls-Royce RCo.11 Conway turbofan engines. Unfortunately, no RAF order for the C.2 was forthcoming [1] and the Sapphire-powered Harrow C.1A had to soldier on. In 1972 it was decided to re-equip the Harrow fleet as long-range air-to-air refuelling tankers. To that end, the rear loading doors were sealed, a refuelling operator's station installed, and three hose-and-drum units mounted. One HDU was mounted in the former starboard loading door, the others were pylon-mounted on the wings (just outboard of the external wing tanks).

The hard-worked Harrow C.1A(K) was scheduled to leave service in 1985. However, RAF budget cuts threatened to the fleet with early retirement in 1980. Weighing whether to retain the C.1A(K)s or Victor B(K).1A tanker conversions delayed that decision. This reprieve allowed the Harrow C.1A(K) to play a major role in the Falklands conflict - both as IFR aircraft and for trooping. The Harrows were retired the following year, their place taken by converted Lockheed Tristars.

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[1] Sir Frederick was resolute that Handley Page remain an independent firm. This flew in the face of  Whitehall's then-current Merge-or-Die agenda.
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #1776 on: May 29, 2018, 06:22:18 AM »
A simple one. What if Kawasaki couldn't negotiate a license-production deal with Daimler Benz?

I have a vague memory that the Hispano-Suiza HS 12Y was in the running for JAAF service at one point. So, here is a Kawasaki Ki-61-Ia Hien interceptor powered by a 1,100 hp Kawasaki Ha.39 V-12 (assuming a domestic Hispano development programme akin to that of the Klimov M-105P).

The Ki-61-Ia dispensed with the troublesome, jam-prone Japanese version of the HS.404 moteur-canone. In place of the Ki-61-I's 20mm and synchronized rifle-calibre guns, the Ki-61-Ia mounted three 12.7 mm heavy machine guns (what appears to be a 20 mm muzzle is actually a Huck's starter dog). The Ki-61-II heavy interceptor would add a further pair of 12.7 mm wing guns.

BTW, these sideviews are based on a Jerry Boucher profile of an Akeno fighter school machine.
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #1777 on: May 30, 2018, 01:27:57 AM »
It seems like before WW2 the Japanese experimented with many different liquid cooled in-lines. 

The Mitsubishi Ha-2 of the mid-1930s was a Hispano Suiza 12Y clone.  Japan built 367 of them.  The Ha-2-II developed 940hp@2300rpm; 2196ci; 555kg

The Mitsubishi Ha 21 was supposed to be a development of the Hisso but was of smaller displacement at 1470ci; 900hp@3050rpm; 485 kg;  The Mitsubishi Ha 121 was a further development giving 1070hp. 

Nakajima built an engine in 1939-40 called NLF.  An inverted V-12; 950hp@2700rpm; 1689.7ci; 495kg

Before Kawasaki committed to the Daimler Benz inspired Ha 40, they built the Ha 9, which was the engine used in the Kawasaki Ki10 "Perry" fighter. 


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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #1778 on: May 30, 2018, 01:41:55 AM »
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #1779 on: June 01, 2018, 06:27:31 AM »
Cool, but like all 12Y powered aircraft, underpowered and would stay that way.  ;D
License for the 12Z perhaps?
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #1780 on: June 02, 2018, 07:24:31 AM »
Hardrada55 - Thanks for the details ... I thought that there was a Japanese HS 12Y but good to know for sure. The The Mitsubishi Ha 121 sounds close to what I had in mind.

Jon: Too true. I was imagining a Klimov-style development history for this engine.


Update I just realized that I never mounted the radial-engined versions of the Ki-61  :-[  So, here they are ...

A variation on the Hien theme. Kawasaki was slow getting the Ha.40 engine into production (the Ki-60 was powered by an imported DB 601A). So, what if no further DB 601s were available but the IJA wanted the airframe proven before ordering?

Step one, trial the airframe with a Nakajima Ha-25 (a Sakai borrowed from an A6M2-N Rufe) and follow up with a Mitsubishi Ha-102 (in a Kawasaki Ki-45 cowling).
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #1781 on: June 06, 2018, 04:57:30 AM »
Springing off from Logan's concept for a common camouflage scheme for a France-sized fictitious country ...

http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=7832.msg141873#msg141873

Here are two Tanganyikan fighters circa 1993. Although 'standardized', there is no fixed camouflage pattern for TDF/AW [1] aircraft. The specified colours are Udongo (Earth brown), Nyasi (Grassland tan), and Msitu (Forest green). However, actual colours vary widely since they come primarily from German-supplied former NVA/LSK stocks. The greatest variation is to be seen in Nyasi since this is a locally-mixed colour.

All Tanganyikan combat aircraft are assigned bird names in Swahili.

(Top) MiG-21UM Kipanga of No.6 Sqn based at Dar. These two-seat fighter-trainers are regarded as being fully operational interceptors.

(Bottom) WSK-Mielec Lim-5(Tn) Nyuki-kula fighter-bomber of No.5 deployed to Ikoma in the northwest. [2] Note that this Lim has had its original white aircraft number overpainted in blacked).

With the resumption of German military aid, ex-NVA/LSK Lim-5s were provided as interim combat aircraft to replace now-unsupported Chinese Shenyang J-5s. The Lim-5(Tn) designation reveals equipment added specifically to suit Tanganyikan operational conditions.

Initially, the Lim-5s served as fighter-interceptors with No.6 Sqn and fighter/fighter-bombers with No.5 Sqn. However, within three years, No.6's Lim-5s were already being replaced by ex-NVA/LSK MiG-21s. [3] The Lim-5s served on with No.5 Sqn (bolstered by Aero L-39 Msitu/Bushshrike light strike aircraft). In 1998, the last operational Lim-5s gave way to the first MiG-23BNs.
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[1] Both English and Swahili names for the Air Wing are considered correct. The former is the Tanganyika Defence Force/Air Wing (TDF/AW). The latter is the Nguvu ya Ulinzi ya Tanganyika/Mrengo wa Air - hence the 'NUT/WA' titles below individual aircraft numbers on tail fins.

[2] Ikoma is listed as an 'Air Base' but 'Forward Operating Base' would be more accurate.

[3] The TDF/AW would eventually receive three each of MiG-21UM and MiG-21US Mongol B two-seaters along with a total of 16 MiG-21 fighters (in a mix of 'PFM and 'SPS models).
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