Author Topic: Dams301's Profiles : SE.580 (Read 31650 times)

dams301 · « **on:** March 19, 2013, 06:45:51 AM »

Hello all,

Like I said in this thread ( http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=2814.0 ), I'm new on this forum.
In parallel to my build, I make some profiles. Here are those I make since August 2011 :

And the most recent :

The F-35 is my next whif project

Hope you like it

Damien

Daryl J. · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:28:01 PM »

lauhof52 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2013, 04:43:08 PM »

Like the F-35A

jorel62 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2013, 11:55:43 PM »

Awesome work.....

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2013, 02:03:13 AM »

Maybe some more F-35s? Say in Tunisian, Libyan, Egyptian, Iraqi and Syrian markings. Let's see just how far one can push this whole Arab Spring thing...

dams301 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2013, 05:33:38 AM »

Thanks for your comments

More arabic F-35 ?? Why not, I'll try it.

For the F-35, I'll make the second one after the Mirage F-1CR, normally.

For the moment, I'm thinking about an UAE C-160 Transall (for a Revell). Here where I am :

There is still some work to finalize it

Damien

dams301 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 23, 2013, 02:51:46 AM »

Some progress :

M.A.D · « **Reply #7 on:** April 11, 2013, 08:24:28 PM »

G'day Dams301
I very much like your C-160 Transall profile!!
Is there any chance of one of these baby's in the colours of the Australian Army Aviation's camouflage scheme (see pictures)

M.A.D

dams301 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 27, 2013, 09:16:44 PM »

Thanks M.A.D

For your idea of australian Transall, why not ?? I'll be thinking about it in the future

For the moment, I work on my next project for an anstralian Rafale C this time :

The drawing is not very good because it's only a modification of one of this drawing :

http://www.arcair.com/Gal1/901-1000/Gal933_Rafale_Camouflages_Aungst/00.shtm

I'll redraw it when I'll have my new mouse

Empty Handed · « **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2013, 10:02:58 PM »

^ Urrrggghhh! A friend has one of those. I did a profile while staying round his and it's bloody hard work getting the cursor where you want! Give me a cheap optical USB £4 job any day of the week! Feel free to call me old-fashioned!

Great thread btw! :)

dams301 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2013, 12:21:42 AM »

I already have an cheap optical mouse (delivred with my Asus portable computer) and after one year, it make sometimes double click instead of simple click... It tends to get irritated

I apply a southern cross on the tail fin :

:)

dams301 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 03, 2013, 03:51:50 AM »

Hi all,

My new mouse is here since yesterday, so I start to re-draw the Rafale C

Hope you like it

dams301 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 08, 2013, 02:53:13 AM »

Hi all,

Last progress on 2 profiles :

Damien

apophenia · « **Reply #13 on:** May 08, 2013, 09:44:55 AM »

Rafale looks great in that camouflage :)

dams301 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 15, 2013, 10:45:40 PM »

Hi all,

New serie with this time the Mirage F1CR :)

More to come soon

Damien

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #15 on:** October 16, 2013, 03:26:24 AM »

Wow! Nice. :)

JP Vieira · « **Reply #16 on:** October 16, 2013, 05:19:49 PM »

Very good profiles: keep it up

dams301 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 16, 2013, 06:38:03 PM »

Thanks

Two more, who are just done, an USAF Agressors :

And a Chilian one :

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #18 on:** October 17, 2013, 02:05:01 AM »

That Aggressors one is eye-catching.

dams301 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 17, 2013, 03:16:03 AM »

Thanks

If anyone have an idea for a country, I'll take it. I have some schemes ready :

:)

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #20 on:** October 17, 2013, 03:11:59 PM »

Sweden? West Germany? RAF? Taiwan? NZ? Canada?

dams301 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 17, 2013, 07:49:35 PM »

Sweden :

Taiwan :

Commonwealth (RAF, RCAF, RNZAF, RAAF) will be next :)

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #22 on:** October 18, 2013, 02:01:23 AM »

Oh yeah!!!

dams301 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 18, 2013, 04:23:45 AM »

Glad to see that you like it

A NATO one before Commonwealth :

tsrjoe · « **Reply #24 on:** October 18, 2013, 08:18:13 AM »

really nice artworks, how bout Finnish example (or two?) in a similar scheme to your Swedish example with or without the white areas, roundel on the intake and possibly a 'MR-1XX' prefix code on the nose ?

cheers, Joe

dams301 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 18, 2013, 03:32:03 PM »

No problem, I will make it

perttime · « **Reply #26 on:** October 18, 2013, 04:31:40 PM »

I was thinking of a Finnish one too... Joe's description sounds good, maybe the colors need a little adjustment ... or maybe it could be done in bare metal look like early Finnish Drakens and MiG-21s.

I'm not quite sure if it should have refuelling probes, though. Depends on what kind of alternative timelines you go for.

tsrjoe · « **Reply #27 on:** October 18, 2013, 04:36:10 PM »

natural metal sounds nice too (just like the early Mirage F.1 prototypes with their anodised aluminium finish) would look pretty sweet on the later development

cheers, Joe

dams301 · « **Reply #28 on:** October 18, 2013, 04:45:03 PM »

I'm on it for the bare metal one and the camo one :)

dams301 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 18, 2013, 05:16:23 PM »

Done :

Hope you like it

perttime · « **Reply #30 on:** October 18, 2013, 07:07:00 PM »

Oh, I like it!
The camo surprised me, as I was expecting greens and/or browns, with no white.

dams301 · « **Reply #31 on:** October 18, 2013, 07:34:20 PM »

Like that :

perttime · « **Reply #32 on:** October 18, 2013, 08:18:13 PM »

Quote from: dams301 on October 18, 2013, 07:34:20 PM

Like that :

Actually, I thought you'd use fewer colors. That would be more in line with what was used in real life, until the Finnish Air Force went gray.

MiG:

http://www.aviaworld.com/photo%20gallery/Finnish%20Air%20Force/Finnish%20Air%20Force%20gallery.html

Draken:

http://www.aviaworld.com/photo/Finnish%20Air%20Force/slides/Saab%20S-35%20Draken%20-%20J-35XS.html

dams301 · « **Reply #33 on:** October 18, 2013, 08:40:40 PM »

Ok, I see what you mean. I don't know many things about finnish aircraft, so it help me a lot

dams301 · « **Reply #34 on:** October 18, 2013, 08:57:37 PM »

It's better in a two tones Green/Dark gray camo like the Mig-21 ?

perttime · « **Reply #35 on:** October 18, 2013, 09:09:19 PM »

They are all good!

... but the two tone looks very realistic to me.
The real-life colors look different in every photo - and I haven't been near a real one for some time.

dams301 · « **Reply #36 on:** October 18, 2013, 09:11:44 PM »

:)

I start to work on some RAF now that finnish are done :

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #37 on:** October 19, 2013, 03:30:33 AM »

Love all the latest batch! :)

Maybe also a RAF one for Desert Storm?

dams301 · « **Reply #38 on:** October 19, 2013, 03:34:51 AM »

Thanks

For the desert storm one, it's on the way. It was my first idea

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #39 on:** October 19, 2013, 03:53:19 AM »

Good man!

dams301 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 19, 2013, 05:24:25 AM »

I'll try several scheme :
- 2 tone desert like the french one sand/light brown
- Pink desert of Jaguar Gr1
- and another 2 tones sand/rock
:)

dams301 · « **Reply #41 on:** October 19, 2013, 06:21:15 PM »

Here we go for Desert Storm scheme

Pink desert :

2-tones scheme :

And the pin-up :

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #42 on:** October 20, 2013, 02:02:14 AM »

Empty Handed · « **Reply #43 on:** November 08, 2013, 07:59:56 PM »

Love your Mirage F1s, especially the Finnish one in Reply 34!

dams301 · « **Reply #44 on:** November 08, 2013, 08:34:38 PM »

Thanks :)
I learned new Illustrator functionality recently, I have to work a bit to master them and I will continue my series of profiles subsequently

Damien

cptmike2012 · « **Reply #45 on:** November 09, 2013, 05:13:36 AM »

Quote from: dams301 on October 19, 2013, 06:21:15 PM

Here we go for Desert Storm scheme

Pink desert :

2-tones scheme :

And the pin-up :

Not sure what the backstory might be, but how about one in PLAAF service?

Regards,

CPT Mike

Logan Hartke · « **Reply #46 on:** November 09, 2013, 05:16:30 AM »

Quote from: Empty Handed on November 08, 2013, 07:59:56 PM

Love your Mirage F1s, especially the Finnish one in Reply 34!

Agree completely. Very nice.

Cheers,

Logan

apophenia · « **Reply #47 on:** November 09, 2013, 05:55:04 AM »

Yes, the MiG-21 scheme looks really good on the F.1 :)

Volkodav · « **Reply #48 on:** November 09, 2013, 06:25:36 AM »

I've got an idea for the back story.

UK and France sign a deal in the early 60s to co-develop and deploy almost all the aircraft currently in design. This leads to French TSR2s and Harriers, RAF and FAA Mirages.

elmayerle · « **Reply #49 on:** November 09, 2013, 04:03:17 PM »

Quote from: Volkodav on November 09, 2013, 06:25:36 AM

I've got an idea for the back story.

UK and France sign a deal in the early 60s to co-develop and deploy almost all the aircraft currently in design. This leads to French TSR2s and Harriers, RAF and FAA Mirages.

Hmm, perhaps Breguet teaming with Hawker on the Harrier with other NATO members coming in? This assumes that DeGaulle does not completely withdraw France from NATO.

Volkodav · « **Reply #50 on:** November 09, 2013, 04:11:07 PM »

Claude Lebel doesn't make it to the MAT-49 in time and the Jackal snaps his neck before killing De Gaulle with his third and last bullet.

lauhof52 · « **Reply #51 on:** November 09, 2013, 04:21:21 PM »

very nice stuff! Maybe a Dutch one?

regards
Lauhof

dams301 · « **Reply #52 on:** August 18, 2015, 11:19:22 PM »

Hi guys,

Long time since my last profiles...

Since I have less motivation for real build, I started a new profile for a kit I have in stock : 1/72th Unicraft Dewoitine SE-580.
This build will not be easy (here an example) so before starting it, I'm thinking to improve the base kit and remold it for my personnal use (yes, I like the shape of this aircraft).

No more speach, here my first profile of this aircraft. More will certainly come, so if you have some idea I'll take it :)

HD for more details : https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5663/20682269425_56efcb4a1d_o.png

Damian

dams301 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 19, 2015, 05:36:13 AM »

3 more for this evening. 2 other french and 1 british :

Hope you like it

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #54 on:** August 20, 2015, 01:56:54 AM »

Nice work

Tophe · « **Reply #55 on:** August 20, 2015, 11:37:58 AM »

Unusual & nice

Quote from: dams301 on August 18, 2015, 11:19:22 PM

More will certainly come, so if you have some idea I'll take it :)
Damian

You probably see one big problem with this aircraft: a pilot bailing out would be ingulfed by the air intake with probably much damage for his health or life... So the solution (without eating ground things like a P-51 or F-16) may be a zwilling layout: port fuselage = pilot, no engine no propeller, no air intake, no fin (safe bailing out), starboard fuselage = no pilot, 1 engine, 1 propeller, 1 air intake, 1 fin. Will you try? If you won't, may I?

dams301 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 20, 2015, 11:26:02 PM »

Quote from: Tophe on August 20, 2015, 11:37:58 AM

Unusual & nice

Thanks :)

I have one more british on Spitfire desert scheme but I want to do 2 or 3 more before posting.

Quote from: Tophe on August 20, 2015, 11:37:58 AM

If you won't, may I?

I'm not a big fan of zwilling layout (and didn't even know how to do it), so you are free to do what you want. Tell me when it's done

Tophe · « **Reply #57 on:** August 21, 2015, 10:00:33 AM »

Quote from: dams301 on August 20, 2015, 11:26:02 PM

I'm not a big fan of zwilling layout (and didn't even know how to do it), so you are free to do what you want. Tell me when it's done

Here is my shy first try, you probably can do much better with the uncoloured source...

:)

Thanks anyway

EDIT: generals may order it as a single-engined fighter with efficient free nose like a P-38/Mosquito without pusher propeller (hated by pilots wanting to be able to bail out safely)...

dams301 · « **Reply #58 on:** August 21, 2015, 09:56:15 PM »

I can send you the original Illustrator file if you want (or another format). Just need your mail by PM

Tophe · « **Reply #59 on:** August 23, 2015, 02:10:23 PM »

I received it, thanks a lot! I don't know when I will be able to "work" on it (play with it)

Tophe · « **Reply #60 on:** August 23, 2015, 06:31:25 PM »

Well, I succeeded in drawing it at last! Thanks again Dams! Your source was marvelous

(Maybe I will try to colour it to feature the different fuselages: yellow port, blue starboard, green tailplane)

Unfortunately, this Dewoitine winning design was not ordered, that is why France lost the war in 1940

Tophe · « **Reply #61 on:** August 23, 2015, 09:00:03 PM »

Here is it, with colours for our friend ericr...
As a pilot, would you prefer to bail out from this D-580Z (safely) or from the SE-580 (into the air-intake or against the fin)...?

Thanks again, dams!

dams301 · « **Reply #62 on:** August 23, 2015, 11:25:34 PM »

I hadn't the time to respond to your mail that you already work on it

Great job Tophe. Glad to help you in this work :)

Tophe · « **Reply #63 on:** August 24, 2015, 12:25:51 AM »

Thanks again Dams. Do you realise how good a fighter that D-580Z was/would have been? with a powerful nose like the P-38/P-61 but a single engine and single pilot, like the XP-54/55/56 but with safe bailing out (no pusher propeller requiring exploding blades or ejector seat)...
I went back in January 1940 (my father was 5 years old but I was 25 years old already) to give (not sell) this design but it was refused, as the French deciders were afraid of asymmetry, so heretic! They preferred to loose the war (the rest is History)...

EDIT: yes I was 25 years old as you are 25 years old, this is obvious as we are just one, you and I, on this combined D-580Z project (it is the morning now, and I take my psychiatric pill, don't worry)...

Tophe · « **Reply #64 on:** August 25, 2015, 01:36:05 AM »

In June 1945, the SNCSE design bureau presented a tourism derivative of the D-580Z, the AG-580:

dams301 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 25, 2015, 01:58:07 AM »

Excellent Tophe

I see that you having some fun with my drawing

Tophe · « **Reply #66 on:** August 25, 2015, 11:01:55 AM »

Yes, thanks a lot for this big amount of fun!

As a return, I made your dams301 name part of Aviation history! on (at the temporary end of) my site about asymmetric aircraft http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Asymm_addition.htm

Next, what will we do?
Do you want me to send you my cdr file in ai format? (for you to play also with the zwilling idea...)

I imagine extra ones, at least:
SE-580Z-2: with port fuselage à-la-Mustang (scoop under fuselage) and starboard fuselage à-la-SE580 (scoop above fuselage)
SE-580Z-3: with pilot on the starboard fuselage (normal SE-580) and pilotless port fuselage (with engine & propeller moved rearward)
SE-580Z-4: like P-38, with free nose of the Z and port fuselage/boom like the Z-3 with engines moved again rearward (for the free nose to be seen on the profile)
etc.

dams301 · « **Reply #67 on:** August 25, 2015, 10:20:06 PM »

Ohh... I have my name as credit on your site. Thanks

I'll watch this as soon as I can :)

Thanks for the proposition, but I'm going to pass. I'm working on an another project and not enough time so I had to put the SE.580 in "stand-by" for the moment

Tophe · « **Reply #68 on:** August 26, 2015, 11:24:35 AM »

All right, I will play alone, no problem.
I think, anyway, that I will post the result here, as you are the source and my own pixel-topic is about slanting views, or... do you prefer that I start a new topic with profiles of mine? Just tell me and I will follow your choice, dams.

dams301 · « **Reply #69 on:** August 27, 2015, 12:10:18 AM »

Do as you want Tophe. I see no problem that you continue to post here or in a new topic. It's your creation, I only gave the basis

Tophe · « **Reply #70 on:** August 27, 2015, 03:13:27 AM »

Thanks. If you don't mind, I will post here the 3 or 5 remaining SE-580Zs, thanking you again and again, and again...

I think later I will make like the SE-580Z-2 a similar F-82 and a similar P-51Z for my Mustang topic at whatifmodelers, not here.
(If the next one of yours is also an aircraft of 1938-46, I would be interested to play with it as well... if you permit)

Tophe · « **Reply #71 on:** August 28, 2015, 01:56:26 AM »

The SE-580Z-2 was twin-engined but single-seater, with safe bailing out (thanks to asymmetry):

Tophe · « **Reply #72 on:** August 29, 2015, 12:37:24 AM »

The next scheduled one was the SE-580Z-3:

dams301 · « **Reply #73 on:** August 29, 2015, 01:04:25 AM »

Excellent Tophe.

Why a small tail on this one ??

Quote from: Tophe on August 27, 2015, 03:13:27 AM

(If the next one of yours is also an aircraft of 1938-46, I would be interested to play with it as well... if you permit)

Don't know yet what will be the next one for the moment. The project I talked earlier is an IRL one

Tophe · « **Reply #74 on:** August 29, 2015, 03:15:18 AM »

Quote from: dams301 on August 29, 2015, 01:04:25 AM

Why a small tail on this one ??

The technical reason for this is: artistic fantasy...

(or craziness of mine)

But my favorite is the following couple: a symmetric twin-engined P-38-like and an asymmetric single-engine Bv-141-like, with exactly the same port profile...

dams301 · « **Reply #75 on:** August 29, 2015, 05:02:57 AM »

Quote from: Tophe on August 29, 2015, 03:15:18 AM

The technical reason for this is: artistic fantasy...

Sounds good to me

The Z-4 (P-38 like) is my favourite for the moment

Tophe · « **Reply #76 on:** August 29, 2015, 11:04:06 AM »

Thanks!

I feel very happy that you liked the surprising result of this cooperation between us! Mixing perfection and delirium into invention, almost seriously... $:-\$

:)
Thanks again!

Tophe · « **Reply #77 on:** August 29, 2015, 12:54:29 PM »

Quote from: Tophe on August 25, 2015, 11:01:55 AM

SE-580Z-2: with port fuselage à-la-Mustang (scoop under fuselage) and starboard fuselage à-la-SE580 (scoop above fuselage)

Indeed, North-American found this idea "interesting" in the opposite direction: adding a fuselage with scoop above fuselage to their fuselage with scoop Under fuselage:

Tophe · « **Reply #78 on:** August 29, 2015, 09:50:49 PM »

As I had finished my project SE-580Z/Z-2/3/4, I thought I had finished here, then... I told myself: "this SE-580 vectorial playing has been funny while... uh, the SE-580 basis was not enough streamlined for my taste (in aesthetics)" but... why not improving that? I did it on the Zwilling 580Z basis into a half-streamlined SE-580Z-5 (to compare source and 'improved')...:

Tophe · « **Reply #79 on:** September 11, 2015, 12:53:01 AM »

And a 3-engines 3-pilots version (2 fuselages +1 pod):

Tophe · « **Reply #80 on:** September 11, 2015, 11:41:35 AM »

Replacing trainee(s) by fuel tank(s) increased range (and speed a little):

Tophe · « **Reply #81 on:** February 21, 2016, 06:30:09 PM »

I have read on the Web that the Dewoitine factory did not become SNCASE but SNCAM, sorry. Here is another '580 from there (yes, zwilling: see there is no external tailplane):


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