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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #125 on: August 24, 2014, 12:14:59 AM »
Does the point about aerial refuelling mean it has both a probe and a receptacle?
It could be both.  You could easily fit a F-35A up for both if you were willing to pay the extra cost and the weight penalty; it's got that bay set aside, as part of a common systems configuration, so you need the extra plumbing & the doors (both of which could come from the -B or -C models, except for the tie-in with the receptacle plumbing) and appropriate software additions.  Doing it clean-sheet from the beginning would allow you to do it cleanly and neatly.

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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #126 on: August 24, 2014, 03:06:53 AM »
Does the point about aerial refuelling mean it has both a probe and a receptacle?
 


Previous plans called for the X-47B naval unmanned combat air system demonstrator (UCAS-D) to conduct autonomous Navy-style probe-and-drogue and Air Force-style boom-and-receptacle refueling tests in 2014 but unfortunately they were a casualty of budget cuts.  I am not sure if it is still fitted for boom refuelling but it is for probe:




Just had a naughty thought.  Who's going to do one up in Blue Angels livery?  ;)


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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #127 on: August 24, 2014, 03:12:25 AM »
Following on from above:




Now to get me some 1/48 Blue Angels decals...
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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #128 on: August 24, 2014, 04:40:42 AM »
Cool scheme by Val Bueno:



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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #129 on: August 24, 2014, 05:06:25 AM »
  Small, fleeting targets are damn hard to hit.   >:D


Indeed! And even when they are hit by small arms, the damn things keep on flying!


I personally think a UAV/UCAV/Drone would have great survivability and damage absorbsion. Below is a picture of one of my R/C models after a mid-air, I got it back to the strip with only a broken prop on touchdown the only additional damage. If I, a outside human pilot can do that surely a gyro stabilized computer would have no problem...


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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #130 on: August 28, 2014, 02:08:41 PM »
it would seem that, since September 2013 at least, we have been calling these particular craft of the air by the wrong name.

In a program about such craft, a BBC-4 presenter referred to them as "Un-person Planes".  A complaint to the station resulted in the complainer being spoken to in a condescending tone by the BBC staff member, who then hung up the telephone ...... so it would seem that the BBC, being the last word on the English language, have set us right ;D

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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #131 on: August 28, 2014, 02:21:17 PM »
Just had a naughty thought.  Who's going to do one up in Blue Angels livery?  ;)

Due to budgetary restrictions the USAF and USN combine their aerial demonstration teams and create a joint command combined unit.  This new unit will need a new and catchy name based on original demonstration team names of Blue Angels and Thunder Birds.  Some possible names for this new unit could be Thunder Angels, Blue Thunder, or maybe the Blue Birds. 
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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #132 on: August 28, 2014, 09:36:19 PM »
it would seem that, since September 2013 at least, we have been calling these particular craft of the air by the wrong name.

In a program about such craft, a BBC-4 presenter referred to them as "Un-person Planes".  A complaint to the station resulted in the complainer being spoken to in a condescending tone by the BBC staff member, who then hung up the telephone ...... so it would seem that the BBC, being the last word on the English language, have set us right ;D

You're kidding me...we already have the term Uninhabited Aerial Vehicles which is gender neutral...why go further?

Mind you, what does whatever call a airliner/personnel transporter without a human pilot?  It is after all inhabited...
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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #133 on: August 28, 2014, 09:51:03 PM »
it would seem that, since September 2013 at least, we have been calling these particular craft of the air by the wrong name.

In a program about such craft, a BBC-4 presenter referred to them as "Un-person Planes".  A complaint to the station resulted in the complainer being spoken to in a condescending tone by the BBC staff member, who then hung up the telephone ...... so it would seem that the BBC, being the last word on the English language, have set us right ;D

You're kidding me...we already have the term Uninhabited Aerial Vehicles which is gender neutral...why go further?

Mind you, what does whatever call a airliner/personnel transporter without a human pilot?  It is after all inhabited...

simply a UAV. Uncrewed Aerial Vehicle ???

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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #134 on: August 30, 2014, 05:48:43 PM »
Just had a naughty thought.  Who's going to do one up in Blue Angels livery?  ;)

Due to budgetary restrictions the USAF and USN combine their aerial demonstration teams and create a joint command combined unit.  This new unit will need a new and catchy name based on original demonstration team names of Blue Angels and Thunder Birds.  Some possible names for this new unit could be Thunder Angels, Blue Thunder, or maybe the Blue Birds.

Knowing the bureacracy, it will become the Blue Birds, which to my ear sounds like some sort of 1980s British TV dance troupe which appeared on "The Two Ronnies" and other such programs.  ;)

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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #135 on: August 30, 2014, 06:39:41 PM »

Mind you, what does whatever call a airliner/personnel transporter without a human pilot?  It is after all inhabited...

simply a UAV. Uncrewed Aerial Vehicle ???

Ah, but what if you still have Fight Stewards?  Wouldn't they constitute "crew"?
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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #136 on: August 30, 2014, 09:28:04 PM »
not if they are robotic like the rest of the aircraft ;)

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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #137 on: August 30, 2014, 09:33:01 PM »
or re-classify Fight Stewards as staff not crew

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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #138 on: August 30, 2014, 11:59:30 PM »
The way thing are going the "passengers" have already largely been classified as cattle... so no inhabitants there. :)

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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #139 on: August 31, 2014, 05:18:19 AM »
The way thing are going the "passengers" have already largely been classified as cattle... so no inhabitants there. :)
Well, they certainly treat "passengers" that way and it starts with the TSA checkout (if I said what I really feel regarding TSA, this would get banned quickly).

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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #140 on: September 01, 2014, 07:50:15 AM »
I knew the manners of the general population was seriously on the decline but "Fight Stewards"? ???

Must be getting really bad on some airlines, then. :icon_twisted: :icon_punal: C:-) :icon_swat:



It's also about time we "un-PC'ed" the English language. I know a lot of persons & wopersons who'd agree. ;)
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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #141 on: September 01, 2014, 07:47:14 PM »
I knew the manners of the general population was seriously on the decline but "Fight Stewards"? ???

LOL, didn't catch that one, then typed it myself. ;D

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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #142 on: September 01, 2014, 08:40:08 PM »
I knew the manners of the general population was seriously on the decline but "Fight Stewards"? ???


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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #143 on: September 02, 2014, 12:27:54 PM »
I knew the manners of the general population was seriously on the decline but "Fight Stewards"? ???

Must be getting really bad on some airlines, then. :icon_twisted: :icon_punal: C:-) :icon_swat:



It's also about time we "un-PC'ed" the English language. I know a lot of persons & wopersons who'd agree. ;)

Only for the AFL, NRL end of season trips!  As my uncle pointed out to me following an incident on a flight years ago, involving the Essendon football club players drunkenly damaging the cabin as well as intimidating and harassing other passengers and crew "they should let them fly for free as what terrorist would ever be game enough to hijack a flight that may have drunken football players on board"?

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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #144 on: October 12, 2014, 05:58:56 AM »
How drones deploy:



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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #145 on: October 12, 2014, 06:45:52 AM »
Damn!  The drone shipping container has so much potential for a party boat pontoon :)
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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #146 on: October 12, 2014, 07:53:02 AM »
General Atomics EasyKit. Comes pre-painted. Some assembly required. No glue needed. Modelling skills helpful if under 14 years of age. RC transmitter unit sold separately. Requires 4 AA batteries (not included). 

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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #147 on: November 03, 2014, 03:36:18 AM »
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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #148 on: February 24, 2015, 03:41:49 AM »
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Air Force Commences Unmanned Aerial System Training United States
(Source: Australian Department of Defence; issued Feb 23, 2015)

Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Defence, Darren Chester, today announced that the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) has commenced training aircrew and support staff on United States Air Force (USAF) MQ-9 Reaper Unmanned Aerial System (UAS) operations in the United States.

Mr Chester said that the training program provides a cost effective method to increase the ADF’s understanding of complex UAS operations and how this capability can be best used to protect Australian troops on future operations.

“Unmanned aerial systems are an advancing technology with a proven record of providing ‘eyes in the sky’ in the Middle East region,” Mr Chester said.

“It would be remiss of Australia not to continue to develop our knowledge of this technology to ensure we are able to gain the greatest benefit from unmanned aerial systems and the best protection for our troops on future operations.”

“For this reason, the RAAF is training personnel in USAF MQ-9 Reaper unmanned aerial system operations in the United States.”

Air Force currently has five personnel training to be MQ-9 air vehicle operators and payload operators at Holloman Air Force Base, New Mexico, and a communication systems engineer at Creech Air Force Base, Nevada.

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Hmmm...I wonder if a RAAF Reaper acquisition may be on the cards in the future...
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Re: Uninhabited and Unafraid, (UCAV, UAV, and Drone Aircraft)
« Reply #149 on: April 12, 2015, 04:46:54 AM »
I tell's ya...these recon pods are getting out of control ;):



MQ-9 with Gorgon Stare persistent wide-area airborne surveillance system
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