Author Topic: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration  (Read 13088 times)

Offline Silver Fox

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2012, 04:58:44 AM »
Take the wing panels off outboard of the guns and convert it to an autogiro. :)

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2012, 09:03:22 AM »
Or maybe just lose the outer wing panels altogether and end the stub wings with an early version of gun pods?

[Image based on a Hurricane by Mihail Solanakis and an Avro C.30 by Teodor Liviu Morosanu.]

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2012, 09:11:42 AM »
Very cool, apophenia.  I like that a lot.

Cheers,

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2012, 09:18:43 AM »
Thanks Logan. Initially, I put a C.30 tail on her but it looked really goofy  :o
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2012, 04:09:31 PM »
That deserves to be built in plastic!
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2012, 05:55:17 PM »
Autogyro-cane...

I like it!
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2012, 01:34:28 AM »
Looks great!   I'd sure hate to have to bail out of this one though  :o
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2012, 04:01:40 AM »
 ;D  Those blades are shown at rest. There's a lot more clearance when the rotor is turning. Still plenty of slice-and-dice potential though for any pilot unfortunate enough to have to bail out!
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Offline Silver Fox

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2012, 04:53:00 AM »
I like it! :)
I was thinking of the Murmansk run or the Mid-Atlantic Gap with my suggestion. It probably can't catch a Condor... but the very presence of such means that the Condor has to be more circumspect. Guns pods are a great idea, you would want bigger rounds so that the one surprise pass you might get counts. The biggest advantage over the Catapult-Armed-Merchantman (CAM Ship) is that a Giroscope-Armed Merchantman (GAM Ship) can have a small flight deck for recovery. That means that the choice isn't between a suicide mission off Jan Mayen Island and driving off the Condor. Mid-Atlantic, as few as 6 GAMs prevents the wolfpacks from almost winning the Battle of the Atlantic. I figure the Girocane has to be just as fast as the poor Shagbat. :)

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2012, 02:20:33 AM »
ASs per apo's drawing, the entire outer wings would have to come off if the autogiro is to be of the
'direct control' type ala the C.30 etc.
When autogiros went to the direct-control hub/rotor design the stub-wings went away as they were not
only no longer necessary for control, they were actually a detriment to control.

BTW as the rotor span would be in the neighborhood of, at least, 60+ feet, the footprint for take-off and
landing would be fairly large. The aircraft would also be considerably larger and heavier than any successfully
flown autogiro, it would also be the first one powered by a liquid-cooled engine since the C.7 (Hispano-Suiza 8Fb)
and C.8V (Wolseley Viper) and of the late '20s.
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2012, 11:33:04 PM »
Early "Early" Hurricane maybe?  :)



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Or intermediate version, closed cockpit and retractable undercarriage (WIP)



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« Last Edit: May 03, 2012, 11:38:19 PM by A1_Phoenix »

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2012, 12:50:54 AM »
Very nice.  Like D-501 and P-35 contemporaries.

Cheers,

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2012, 02:06:42 AM »
Different!  I really like the second one!
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2012, 08:08:30 AM »
I like the first one - looks like it's built to the same Air Ministry spec as the original crank-wing Spitfire !!

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2012, 04:14:31 PM »
I like the first one - looks like it's built to the same Air Ministry spec as the original crank-wing Spitfire !!

yes, spats came directly from 224, and cranked wing too, but with hurricane wing shape :)

strange thing I've noticed: if spats are removed, W wing appears placed too far forward, but I haven't changed horizontal surfaces position from stock hurricane.. someone noticed too?  ???

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