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Scenarios / Re: What if the fall of Singapore didn't happen?
« Last post by M.A.D on Today at 02:49:44 AM »
Given that the Matilda was historically in Australian service it make sense to start there, but there are options to up gun that actually existed, if not on the Matilda. AS mentioned, the Valentine XI turret would probably fit(or nearly so) on the Matilda as would (I do believe) the 75mm armed Crusader turrets actually fitted to Staghound Mk III tanks in Canadian service in NW Europe very late in the war. The end of the war would have meant that both turrets would have become available from demobbed European stocks, likely for the price of shipping.

A Matilda with the angular turret from a Crusader armed with the Brit 75mm would be an interesting thing for Australia. Re-engine it with later and even more powerful and reliable diesels in the 50s and they could be relatively viable for slow infantry work. But, really, useless as a more universal tank to deal with the expected faster enemies of the post war period. Of course, the Valentine was no faster.

Paul

Thank you Paul for your input.

The reality (the way I see it after reading this intriguing post) is as per real-world history should have it, is that the Australian Army forces will still prodomantly be facing Imperial Japanese forces in the Pacific Theatre by the time Australia pulled it's finger out in terms of seriously seeing merit and gaining tanks in real numbers regardless. So I'm thinking (correct me if you view diffentlty) that a 6-pounder (57mm) gun will probably suffice against any Imperial Japanese actions? Also the importance and priority has to be placed on the development, manufacturing and fielding of a 2-pounder and 6-pounder HE round!! (Note, I still for the life of me can't comprehend the ignorance and neglect of Britain/Australia not developing and fielding HE rounds!!  :-\)
I'm also guessing, that by the end of the Second World War, either the Matilda II or Valentine designs will be obviously in a  state of block obsolecene, in terms of being seriously effective and hence needing replacement by a modern design (and alas loaned or leased) like say the Comet, until the likes of the Centurion have matured and proven itself effective and reliable to purchase and field as new.


M.A.D
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You don't want to find your name on the manifest for one of Ludmilla's "Special Train Tours" to the gulag, do you?



Well, maybe we do...will Ludmilla be conducting the tours in person?
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Scenarios / Re: What if the fall of Singapore didn't happen?
« Last post by tankmodeler on Today at 01:11:17 AM »
Given that the Matilda was historically in Australian service it make sense to start there, but there are options to up gun that actually existed, if not on the Matilda. AS mentioned, the Valentine XI turret would probably fit(or nearly so) on the Matilda as would (I do believe) the 75mm armed Crusader turrets actually fitted to Staghound Mk III tanks in Canadian service in NW Europe very late in the war. The end of the war would have meant that both turrets would have become available from demobbed European stocks, likely for the price of shipping.

A Matilda with the angular turret from a Crusader armed with the Brit 75mm would be an interesting thing for Australia. Re-engine it with later and even more powerful and reliable diesels in the 50s and they could be relatively viable for slow infantry work. But, really, useless as a more universal tank to deal with the expected faster enemies of the post war period. Of course, the Valentine was no faster.

Paul
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MiG GB / Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
« Last post by LemonJello on Yesterday at 11:50:34 PM »
Comrades! Participation so far has exceeded expectations. Alas! The Defense Ministry requires more from us.  So get out of the beet and potato fields and get back to the assembly lines! 

You don't want to find your name on the manifest for one of Ludmilla's "Special Train Tours" to the gulag, do you?

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Other / Re: Just some cool photos...nothing more, nothing less...
« Last post by kerick on Yesterday at 08:08:19 PM »
I bet someone else did!
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Scenarios / Re: What if the fall of Singapore didn't happen?
« Last post by Volkodav on Yesterday at 07:16:35 PM »
The matilda served quite well into the 50s along side the Grant and Churchill, the Brits used Cromwell and Churchill post war as well with their 75mm, so it is conceivable that a 75mm armed (maybe a 95mm CS version too) Matilda could have served well into the 50s as an infantry support tank.

I quite like that concept of cavalry units being permanently (or at least semi permanently) embedded in infantry battlegroups, covering off tank destroyer, reconaisance / flank protection, direct fire support (DFS) roles.
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Other / Re: Just some cool photos...nothing more, nothing less...
« Last post by GTX_Admin on Yesterday at 03:26:04 PM »
F-16 type incident is known as a "career altering event" when I was at Boeing.

I wonder if he/she dared painting a kill marking on their car?
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Scenarios / Re: What if the fall of Singapore didn't happen?
« Last post by M.A.D on Yesterday at 01:02:44 PM »
Both vehicles have advantages and disadvantages, as do all vehicles.

The Matilda is a bit of a dead end.  I cannot see it going beyond a 75mm gun.  It's armour is adequate and its automotive performance is quite good.  It was simply too small to be easily developed.

The Valentine offers several opportunities for improvement.  The chassis was easily modified to carry up to a 17 Pdr. as an SPG.  It could and did carry a 25 Pdr. as an SPG (agreed, not a terribly successful one).  It could take up to a 75mm gun in a standard tank turret.  Its armour was adequate ad its automotive performance was adequate.

Choice is really yours.  It's your what-if.  Personally, I'd tend to choose the Valentine simply because of its adaptability.

Thank you for your input Rickshaw, it's greatly respected and appreciated!
I'm think it would be sensible in pursuing a vehicle which offers a degree of growth potential, on top of its operational attributes.


M.A.D
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Scenarios / Re: What if the fall of Singapore didn't happen?
« Last post by Rickshaw on Yesterday at 09:50:06 AM »
Both vehicles have advantages and disadvantages, as do all vehicles.

The Matilda is a bit of a dead end.  I cannot see it going beyond a 75mm gun.  It's armour is adequate and its automotive performance is quite good.  It was simply too small to be easily developed.

The Valentine offers several opportunities for improvement.  The chassis was easily modified to carry up to a 17 Pdr. as an SPG.  It could and did carry a 25 Pdr. as an SPG (agreed, not a terribly successful one).  It could take up to a 75mm gun in a standard tank turret.  Its armour was adequate ad its automotive performance was adequate.

Choice is really yours.  It's your what-if.  Personally, I'd tend to choose the Valentine simply because of its adaptability.

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Aero-space / Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Last post by The Big Gimper on Yesterday at 08:29:39 AM »
How about a Pilot and 3 passengers?


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