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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #151 on: April 07, 2014, 02:48:00 AM »
I like the Luftvärnskanonvagn (lvkv) 9040 variant of the CV90:



LvKv 90 Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun | Military-Today.com


It uses the Bofors 40mm 3GP ammunition:

Bofors 40mm 3GP ammunition demonstration


It would be interesting to see a variant also equipped with a integral SAM - say something like either the RBS70 or better yet, the RBS 23 BAMSE:

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #152 on: April 07, 2014, 02:57:41 AM »
I'd like to hear more about 76mm guided rounds. That's a new one for me.


It talks about the DART and Vulcano rounds here:

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_3-62_mk75.htm

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNIT_5-54_LW.htm
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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #153 on: April 07, 2014, 04:24:06 AM »
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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #154 on: April 07, 2014, 01:16:58 PM »
Actually what would be interesting is if BAE did an SPAAG version of the CV90/35 using AHEAD ammunition for the Netherlands and Denmark. (and Australia of course in my highly parochial little mind that automatically puts all cool kit into Australian service :P)

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #155 on: April 12, 2014, 06:05:15 AM »
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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #156 on: April 15, 2014, 08:42:20 AM »
Hmm, turns out the HEMTT mit Phalanx is an A3, diesel-electric. Going to be a bit more mods than I thought for the Italeri kit.

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #157 on: April 20, 2014, 12:51:45 AM »
IDF twin 35, pic from AMPS via Jim Carswell, builder unknown.


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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #158 on: April 20, 2014, 03:18:10 AM »
Nice.
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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #159 on: February 14, 2015, 06:06:53 AM »
Interesting…

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #160 on: May 17, 2015, 06:29:39 AM »
Random thought:  M167 Vulcan Air Defense System (VADS) (see below) used in purely ground role (i.e. used against enemy ground forces not aircraft):

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #161 on: May 24, 2015, 06:41:03 AM »
Random idea:  Tank towing a trailer mounted M51 for semi-self contained air defence:

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #162 on: May 24, 2015, 09:15:47 AM »
Tanks and trailers don't play well together, Greg.   Tank drivers can't really see very well behind them and when reversing out of danger tend to forget about the trailer and drive over it.   :o
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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #163 on: May 24, 2015, 09:17:35 AM »
Bah!  Reality suds!
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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #164 on: May 24, 2015, 09:28:53 AM »
Bah!  Reality suds!

Just put into the back of a Perentie, Greg...  ;)

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #165 on: May 24, 2015, 01:17:32 PM »
Trailer-mounted ADATS towed behind a requsitioned RV or camper van  ;D
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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #166 on: May 24, 2015, 11:03:13 PM »
How about a BV206 / BVS10 style articulated trailer behind the tank / AFV?  It could actually improve the mobility of the vehicle its attached to as well as being capable of carrying pretty much any payload required including additional fuel for the tanks.  They could even be designed with quick connect / disconnect couplings so the tanks can drop them off before or on contact to provide supporting fires.  Apart from SPAAG and SAM you could also have automatic heavy mortar, pioneer, engineer, logistics, even a vegie bin (APC module) for assault troops to provide close support for the tanks.  These trailers could also be fitted with their own propulsion to permit them to catch up to the tanks post contact.  They could the armour equivalent to the infantryman's pack / Bergen.

Totally impractical but fun to model.

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #167 on: June 08, 2015, 10:48:39 PM »
Kevin Williams provides an update on his fantastic Canadian Tracked Roland:



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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #168 on: September 06, 2015, 06:32:23 AM »
ZSU-23-4MP BIALA:

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #169 on: September 06, 2015, 06:38:24 AM »
There's part of a T-72 under there...somewhere:


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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #170 on: September 07, 2015, 03:07:15 AM »
nice find! That's a new one too me

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #171 on: September 09, 2015, 02:48:29 AM »
Its actually a Polish PZA Loara.  It is actually based upon the hull of a PT-91 Twardy which is in itself a Polish development of the T-72M1.  Armament is two Oerlikon KDA 35 mm automatic cannons.  Originally there was also supposed to be a missile-armed version of the vehicle - the PZR Loara (which the below photo may or may not be of).

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #172 on: September 13, 2015, 04:00:42 AM »
One that I am surprised one of the Chinese companies haven't realised a kit of yet - the PGZ-07:

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #173 on: September 13, 2015, 01:27:35 PM »
You do realise that Trumpeter/Bronco/Hobby Boss/etc. will now release one next week?   :o

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Re: Anti-Aircraft: SPAAG/SAM Ideas and Inspiration
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