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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #50 on: August 24, 2012, 04:29:55 AM »
ASV-III chin radar, extra fuel in the cargo bay, external depth charges, and a pod of 20mm cannons under each wing makes for an early AC-47-like aircraft to patrol for U-boats on the Atlantic Seaboard.   
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2013, 11:24:12 AM »
my Jet Dakota ...



Love this! wow  :-*

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2013, 11:26:38 AM »
Tricycle Dakota. Here you can see the origin of Il-12 and Il-14


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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2013, 04:46:20 AM »
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #54 on: October 30, 2013, 02:40:26 AM »


Pretty spinners on this one.  Looks like something BdB would do.

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #55 on: October 30, 2013, 02:55:33 AM »
Oooo...I do like that!
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2015, 07:52:52 AM »
DC-3...still kicking on:

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2015, 08:58:09 AM »
I see this one fairly often at YYC (Calgary International) while at work

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2015, 05:36:07 AM »
Carrier based anyone? ;)

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #59 on: July 12, 2015, 06:30:36 AM »
No problem attaching a tail hook but what about folding the wings?

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #60 on: July 12, 2015, 09:02:45 AM »
No problem attaching a tail hook but what about folding the wings?
You might have to do some re-design of the flaps, to inboard and outboard ones, but the outboard wings mate with the center section just outboard of the engines and you could put your folding mechanism there; you might need to extend the center section a bit to properly fit it, but I see nothing too difficult unless you go for rotating and folding, that would necessitate addition redesign.

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2015, 10:41:38 AM »
Might have to fold in four places instead of two to get it low enough to fit into the hanger deck. I believe it was the Viking that folded the wings at skewed angles to the centerline of the ac to get the wing tips to not hit each other. That might work.

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2015, 11:01:35 AM »
Rotary joint and a ball joint or hinge to allow the wings to fold back along the fuselage?  A secondary lock/structural load-carrying connection at the aft spar? I can see how it could be done.  You'd probably need several load-carrying locks to make sure the wings stayed put in flight but it's doable.

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2015, 01:17:50 PM »
Anyone know what is attached under the wings of the C-47/R4Ds parked on the deck of the carrier in the image Greg shared? 
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« Reply #64 on: July 12, 2015, 01:24:58 PM »
Well, if you look closely, those items appear to have discharge tubes on their outboard side; perhaps for spraying something or laying down some kind of vapor.  They are far enough out that it looks like the discharge is intended to get mixed and blended with the wingtip vortices.

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #65 on: July 13, 2015, 02:38:34 AM »
Anyone know what is attached under the wings of the C-47/R4Ds parked on the deck of the carrier in the image Greg shared?


Not really sure but they are supposedly from Operation High Jump:





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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #66 on: July 13, 2015, 04:15:50 AM »
Thanks Greg. 

The pods appear to be the AN/APS-4 radar and not a liferaft kit as I was thinking it might be.  The fuselage band had me thinking these were SAR aircraft at first and a pod with liferaft under the wing would make perfect sense.  Also makes perfect sense now knowing that it is the APS-4 radar pod since the aircraft are on their way to the antarctic for the High Jump project where the radar would have been much appreciated for flights over the barren land mass. 
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #67 on: May 07, 2017, 03:57:04 AM »
Radom idea:  C-47 based autogiro
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #68 on: May 07, 2017, 03:58:59 AM »
Does anyone do a 1/48 conversion (or kit) for the XC-47C:






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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #69 on: May 07, 2017, 04:20:16 AM »
Sorry Greg I only know of 1/72 scale stuff  ---- like this one of mine below.

One still exists and was still flying in 2002, not sure of it's status since though

https://img.vehiclepad.com/baacafafa5b0800661ce1a5d2c1f4269_the-aviation-anorak-douglas-xc-47c-dc-3-on-floats-douglas-xc-47c_800-465.jpeg

You could try contacting Khee-Kha Art Products, the owner does a lot of Edo float conversion sets. He might have something on the Edo floats that were used on the XC-47C.

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #70 on: May 07, 2017, 09:54:33 AM »
How about a BT-67 on amphibious floats?
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #71 on: May 07, 2017, 09:57:05 AM »
How about a BT-67 on amphibious floats?

Now you're talking    :)

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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #72 on: May 07, 2017, 10:22:33 AM »
How about a BT-67 on amphibious floats?

A trimotor version to kept the power-to-weight ratio up.  ;D
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #73 on: May 08, 2017, 04:50:39 AM »
Doesn't it make sense as, say, a general transport/taxi craft for Pacific islands?  :-*
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Re: Douglas DC-2, DC-3 and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #74 on: September 11, 2017, 06:51:59 AM »
Found this over at Secret Projects: https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=29223.0

Among the many projects to re-engine the DC-3, the Tamco (standing for Turbo-Airliner Manufacturing Co.) Turbo-Commuter was one of the more complex. As well as the RR Dart turboprops, the Turbo-Commuter was to feature a pressurized fuselage as well as the adoption of a tricycle undercarriage.

To facilitate the undercarriage layout change, it was planned to fit the main units between the centre and rear wing spars, retracting into fully covered nacelles, similar to the Super DC-3s. Attached is a profile taken from the July 24 1976 issue of Flight international.

PDF online version here: https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1976/1976%20-%201348.html







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