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HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« on: December 28, 2011, 03:57:45 AM »
Hi folks,

A thread for your HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration.

To kick things off, how about a flyingboat derivative:



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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 07:14:06 AM »
Yipes!  Certainly didn't see that coming.

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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2012, 07:35:44 AM »
Lengthen the nose a bit, add a tricycle landing gear.    Create some spurious efficient engines and the Norwegians have an early ASW machine.
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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 12:36:55 AM »
Since the engine and wing errors on the new Revell kit have enough people in a pickle, pick one up cheap at a swap meet and add four Griffon engines from Airfix new 1/72 kits or four Allison's from Airfix new little P-40.   Prototype RAF paint and one has a JMN grabber.   >:D :-* :-\ ;D
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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2014, 02:43:16 AM »
How about a Halifax given an equivalent treatment as the Lancaster was to develop the Lincoln?
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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2014, 02:58:08 AM »
That would be the HP 65, with turbo-supercharged Hercules.  :)
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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2014, 03:15:16 AM »
Thanks Jon.  Would you happen to have any pics of the other developments:

HP.66 - design for developed Halifax ordered to specification B.27/43, provisionally called Hastings B.I, abandoned after end of war.
HP.69 - design for developed Halifax with turbo-blower exhaust Hercules 100, provisionally called Hastings Mark II.
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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2014, 03:54:16 AM »
The single-spar, laminar flow wing of the H.P. 65 was considered a step too far due to limitations
on available construction techniques, so H.P. was asked to abandon that plan and switch to a simpler
design. This consisted of a new two-spar 55' span centre-section to which extended Halifax outer
wing panels were attached. The resultant Hercules 100 powered H.P.66 (Hastings B.Mk.I) was defined
by Spec. B.27/43, the specification was written around the design, two prototypes were ordered.
A third prototype was ordered as the H.P.69(Hastings B.Mk.II) with turbo-charged Hercules HE-15MT
engines, otherwise it was the same as the H.P.66. As a back up Merlin 25 engines in RAE 'idealized'
cylindrical cowlings, as used on Lincoln and Warwick, were also envisaged.

The H.P.66/69 wing design was used on the H.P.67 Hastings transport.

-info from Handley-Page Aircraft since 1907, C.H. Barnes, 2nd ed., Putnam 1987

So a Halifax III fuselage (with deepened bomb-doors) and extended outer wing panels, Hastings
style centre-section and Lincoln cowlings for a Merlin powered Hastings B.Mk.III.

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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2014, 04:00:20 AM »
Thanks Jon - sounds very much like what I was thinking of when I wrote my original bit about a Lincoln style Halifax - especially with the Griffons.   Now, I do have a spare 1/48 Lincoln conversion around here + a Halifax kit (or was that a Halton?)... ::)
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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2016, 06:30:05 AM »


This is from a Facebook group called Fantasy Kit World.  It is What-if box art.

Source: Facebook Fantasy Kit World

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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2016, 03:59:46 AM »
Nice artwork.

There are a few 1/72 Halton conversions available in reality though:



The lower one is from Heritage Aviation Models:



Or one could come to the "Man's scale" of 1/48 and get a full kit:

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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2021, 01:57:47 AM »
One sometimes forgets that the Halifax had bomb compartments in the wings:


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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2021, 10:08:40 AM »
I had no idea the Halifax had bombs in the wings!

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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2021, 03:02:35 PM »
I had no idea the Halifax had bombs in the wings!

Same here! :icon_surprised:
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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2021, 11:49:13 PM »
I seem to remember the Airfix kit had them included --- or maybe that was the Sterling ---  ???

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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2021, 03:40:22 AM »
Each cell could accommodate a single 500lb bomb.


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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2021, 05:41:08 PM »
One sometimes forgets that the Halifax had bomb compartments in the wings:

I can't forget what I didn't know GTX. Very interesting and thanks for bringing to my attention.

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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2021, 04:47:32 AM »
One sometimes forgets that the Halifax had bomb compartments in the wings:




The later Hercules-powered B.III's only had two cells per wing.



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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2021, 10:03:01 AM »
Passengers Halifax. Better than Halton, I hope. ;D


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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2021, 08:57:43 AM »
Variations on Halifax


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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2021, 07:34:47 PM »
I like. Good brain fodder for future Halibag builds.

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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2021, 03:35:29 AM »
^^^^^
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Re: HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2022, 03:06:24 AM »
How about a Halifax backdated (?) and given a similar approach to the AVRO Manchester?  In other words a twin engined Halifax with a pair of RR Vultures instead of its four engines.  Or to be really specific, an operational Handley Page H.P.56:

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