Author Topic: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )  (Read 8108 times)

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« on: December 22, 2014, 10:21:45 AM »
I'll be mining the Great War for build concepts for a while yet -figured I'd group them under
appropraite banners. First up, the Bristol Triplane is coming along. I need to finishe the rigging,
(and re-do a bit of it :icon_crap:) touch up the paint, and see if twenty or thirty year old Airfix decals  are still viable.

One curious discovery while build this - I had gotten two different boxings of the kit, and some time
between the two releases, they pilot figures were resculpted.

Something I started on, and leap-frogged to finish first, was this Hansa-Brandenberg.
Sporting the designation G.III, it comes from the notion that Heinkel started thinking about he monoplane formula before the creation of the W.29, and applied it to a twin engine bomber.
This is mostly the old Meikraft kit, with wing inserts from the Pegasus kit. The latter's wings
were the right shape, but only about half the thinkness, so I laminated them up with strip and
shaped them to match. The nose section, which mounts a 5 cm cannon in addition to the
parabellum, came from a cast off section of the Bristol fighter fuselage. ( The cannon was inspired
by reports that the Hansa-Brandenberg G. I, though unsuccessful in service, was used as a
testbed for a variety of heavy cannon. The tailplane also derives from the shape of the G. I )




Something I picked up at the Austin show in October was a Merlin Fokker D. VIII. Floats from the
Brandenbergs were starting to to pile up, so...


I need to find a sheet of late-war crosses, but the Fokker W. VIII is pretty much done as well.
On the morrow, pics of the AEG DN. IV, from the Classic Airplanes vacuform kit.

« Last Edit: July 25, 2019, 11:33:43 PM by Dr. YoKai »

Offline finsrin

  • The Dr Frankenstein of the modelling world...when not hiding from SBA
  • Finds part glues it on, finds part glues it on....
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2014, 10:44:19 AM »
Hansa-Brandenberg comes out so well in that blue and top of fuselage finish :)
Tail surfaces appear to have much higher critical Mach than main wing ;D

Offline Rickshaw

  • "Of course, I could be talking out of my hat"
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2014, 10:47:34 AM »
I must admit, I do like the Lozenge camouflage finish.   8)

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2018, 06:36:01 AM »
 My interest has revived as the centennial of the War's end approaches. Two quick recent projects - a Toko Pfalz D XII, and a whifed Roland C IIdr. I had picked up a pair of Airfix C IIs for two dollars apiece, and the triplane just seemed obvious.


More notes anon.

Offline Frank3k

  • Excession
  • Global Moderator
  • Formerly Frank2056. New upgrade!
    • My new webpage
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2018, 07:13:18 AM »
Great job on both! The camo colors look great.

Offline Brian da Basher

  • He has an unnatural attraction to Spats...and a growing fascination with airships!
  • Moderator
  • *
  • Hulk smash, Brian bash
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2018, 05:37:00 PM »
Well done, Doc! Those look every bit the business!

Nice work on the camo which looks spot-on!

Triplaning that Roland was truly inspired.

Brian da Basher

Offline Old Wombat

  • "We'll see when I've finished whether I'm showing off or simply embarrassing myself."
  • "Define 'interesting'?"
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2018, 07:30:31 PM »
Great W.W.1ders, Doc! :smiley: :smiley:
"This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our engine sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and, ah, explode."

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2018, 10:01:50 PM »
 Thanks for the compliments. colleagues! The paints a re from a new AK interactive set - WW ! German colors - and while they are pricey, they
 are pretty good when airbrushed. The Roland scheme is bit whiff - while the more common image of the C II is in all white, some were given a
 two tone brown/green upper surface in the 1916 period. Since the purple/green combination started showing up in 1917, I blended two slightly
 different patterns for a purple/ brown combination, reasoning that it might have suited the mud of the trenches a little more effectively. The
 'canopy' was inspired by some closed and partially closed cockpit experiments carried out on some other C-class observation planes.

Offline stevehed

  • Newly Joined - Welcome me!
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2018, 07:07:00 AM »
My first post and as a WW1 afficianado I had to make it here. Love the Roland but wondered if the 2014 photos could be resurrected.

Regards, Steve

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2018, 09:31:27 AM »
 I had noticed they had gone missing - thanks for the reminder. it will probably be a day or two, but I'll put them up. thanks for asking.
 Or I could just go ahead and do it now...
 This is the other Hansa Brandenberg W.29 whif, a single engine reccon/close support land version. The observer's gun is supposed to be a Becker 20 mm, but I think it's a little overscale.
 

And the twin-engine version described above



Looks like I'll have to take some pictures of the finished Fokker D. VIIIW
« Last Edit: April 17, 2018, 09:42:52 AM by Dr. YoKai »

Offline Brian da Basher

  • He has an unnatural attraction to Spats...and a growing fascination with airships!
  • Moderator
  • *
  • Hulk smash, Brian bash
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2018, 05:31:13 PM »
Those are just great, Doc!

I especially like that twin-engined beauty!

Brian da Basher

Offline finsrin

  • The Dr Frankenstein of the modelling world...when not hiding from SBA
  • Finds part glues it on, finds part glues it on....
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2018, 05:33:29 PM »
Those are just great, Doc!

I especially like that twin-engined beauty!

Brian da Basher

Ditto

Online GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2018, 01:16:29 AM »
 :smiley:
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline stevehed

  • Newly Joined - Welcome me!
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2018, 06:33:36 AM »
Thanks Doc, two beauties.

Steve

Offline ysi_maniac

  • I will die understanding not this world
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2018, 09:53:55 AM »
Every WWI subject look a whif ;) 8)

WWI monoplanes are so cool!  :smiley:

Offline Camthalion

  • The man has done a pink tank...need we say more?!
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2018, 05:31:19 AM »
very cool.  nice work

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2019, 07:26:40 AM »
The Moeller I, one of a trio of prototypes for the Imperial Russian Air service built in 1912-13. Far as I l know, none were successful. Hlaf-tone plan views in 1/72 are in Nowara and Duval's Russian Civil and Military Aircraft 1884-11969. Mostly Evergreen sheet and rod stock so far - details will largely come from a Sopwith Triplane that I will have to turn into a glide bomb or something.



Offline Brian da Basher

  • He has an unnatural attraction to Spats...and a growing fascination with airships!
  • Moderator
  • *
  • Hulk smash, Brian bash
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2019, 07:53:48 AM »
That's some fantastic scratch-building there Doc!

I never heard of this aircraft before. That lattice-like tail assembly reminds me of the DH-2.

Brian da Basher

Offline Frank3k

  • Excession
  • Global Moderator
  • Formerly Frank2056. New upgrade!
    • My new webpage
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2019, 09:49:50 AM »
Craig - looks like a great start! Are you using the Harry Woodman book? He suggests the same technique for making the airfoil.

Offline elmayerle

  • Its about time there was an Avatar shown here...
  • Über Engineer...at least that is what he tells us.
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2019, 12:04:22 PM »
Beautiful!!

Online GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2019, 02:05:56 AM »
 :smiley:
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2019, 07:47:48 AM »
Craig - looks like a great start! Are you using the Harry Woodman book? He suggests the same technique for making the airfoil.


 I remember you mentioning the book awhile back - but I've been studying the techniques Gabriel Stern uses in his builds at ARC. I would
 not be surprised if he uses the Woodman book. And I'll probably start reading it myself - I keep finding WW 1 subjects that either don't have
 kit, or are too bloody expensive for something I'm probably going to give lasers and an FTL drive.... ;)

Thanks all!

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2019, 07:11:25 AM »
Progress continues - I would have gotten most of this done last weekend, but yard work and a necessary second viewing of Godzilla, King of the Monsters intervened...
I need to dig through the tools and see if I can find my micro bits, and then off to the fabric shop for a spool of 'invisible' sewing thread to do the rigging. Paint next weekend, I hope.






Offline Frank3k

  • Excession
  • Global Moderator
  • Formerly Frank2056. New upgrade!
    • My new webpage
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2019, 07:36:29 AM »
Wow - that's coming along! Are you using wing warping on the main wings?

Offline Brian da Basher

  • He has an unnatural attraction to Spats...and a growing fascination with airships!
  • Moderator
  • *
  • Hulk smash, Brian bash
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2019, 04:18:27 PM »
That's some fine progress Doc and I can't fault you about taking time out for Godzilla. Never argue with the King of the Monsters!

Brian da Basher

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2019, 11:41:50 PM »
Wow - that's coming along! Are you using wing warping on the main wings?

 Yes - from the drawing, it's fairly clear that the main wings were controlled that way - though the cables are not nearly as complicated
 as a Taube. This should be a good way of easing back into the most daunting part of any early aircraft build. I'm probably going to go with
 one or two more whiffs before I tackle a big project - either the Linke-Hoffman R I or R II.

Offline Camthalion

  • The man has done a pink tank...need we say more?!
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2019, 08:42:46 AM »
looking really good

Offline taiidantomcat

  • Plastic Origamist...and not too shabby with the painting either!
  • Full Member
  • Stylishly late...because he was reading comics
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2019, 04:29:06 AM »
WOW!!  :o :-*
"They know you can do anything, So the question is, what don't you do?"

-David Fincher

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2019, 06:25:40 AM »
Thanks for the kind words - here's the finished build. ( Two months start to finish - I really should start entering Group Builds again... ;) )








Next up will be a Whiffed Salmson-Moineau SM 1.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2019, 06:29:54 AM by Dr. YoKai »

Offline Old Wombat

  • "We'll see when I've finished whether I'm showing off or simply embarrassing myself."
  • "Define 'interesting'?"
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2019, 11:13:17 AM »
Great build, Doc! :smiley:

Given the weird & wonderful designs that emerged during WW1, I could see some "experts" being taken in by this. ;)
"This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our engine sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and, ah, explode."

Offline finsrin

  • The Dr Frankenstein of the modelling world...when not hiding from SBA
  • Finds part glues it on, finds part glues it on....
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2019, 12:45:28 PM »
Great build, Doc! :smiley:

Given the weird & wonderful designs that emerged during WW1, I could see some "experts" being taken in by this. ;)

Completely agree. 
Looks like a RW possibility to me.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2019, 02:50:56 PM by finsrin »

Offline Brian da Basher

  • He has an unnatural attraction to Spats...and a growing fascination with airships!
  • Moderator
  • *
  • Hulk smash, Brian bash
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2019, 03:47:57 AM »
The cool concept, the rigging, the representation of CDL, it's all simply exquisite!
 :-*  :-*  :-*
The only thing that could make it any better would be spats.
 :-*
Ahem.

Quite the stunner there, Doc!

Brian da Basher

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's (Pre- ) World War Oneders - Air
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2019, 09:01:50 PM »
 Thanks all - took me a minute to figure out 'CDL' ( Clear Doped Linen, yes? ) but thanks! ( And I have to note that the CDL is actually a shade of
 Model master acrylic called 'flesh'... ( Mwahahah ) But it looks a bit better than the sand yellow/light grey mix I tried first.

 I should also note this was a real aircraft - the only liberties I took were  with the wheels, which are a bit larger than the ones shown in the drawings.

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2019, 11:47:54 PM »
 A long time favorite, the British A D Scout was intended for Anti-Zeppelin duties.
 
 It never carried its intended armament of a 2 pounder
 Davis recoilless gun, and probably just as well. What little information remains about the plane indicates it was rather flimsily constructed,
 and tricky to fly in the bargain. But I like the look of the thing, and where there's a whif, there's a way. Build pictures this evening.

Offline Frank3k

  • Excession
  • Global Moderator
  • Formerly Frank2056. New upgrade!
    • My new webpage
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2019, 01:27:51 AM »
I somehow missed the finished plane - it looks really good!

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2019, 11:20:29 PM »
Thanks, Frank - for a first attempt, I think it went pretty well. Here's the progress on the scout.


That Sopwith Triplane will provide the wheels, and since this is a whif, I'm giving it a larger  Lisbona-Svenska engine, beefing up the structure a bit, ( which will mainly consist of a lower crossbar strut for the tailplane, and slightly altered landing gear. ) More on the backstory of this
surprisingly-successful-in-another-reality interceptor as the build advances.


Offline Brian da Basher

  • He has an unnatural attraction to Spats...and a growing fascination with airships!
  • Moderator
  • *
  • Hulk smash, Brian bash
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2019, 04:24:51 AM »
This one looks like great fun and you're off to a wizard start, Doc!

I don't think anyone can match your talent for finding such esoteric pieces of aero ephemera.

Brian da Basher

Offline apophenia

  • Patterns? What patterns?
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2019, 07:18:11 AM »
... But I like the look of the thing ...

How could you not! It looks back-to-front and upside down. A Real World WHIF ... love it  :smiley:
The doorbell's ringing, could be the elves
But it's probably the werewolf ...

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2021, 11:14:14 PM »
A year and half later, I pick this up again -
DSCF0340 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

The white, or otherwise unpainted portions of the build are the results of the last couple of weekends. I had the bad luck/good fortune to pick up an Airfix BE 2c early last year, mainly because another modeling acquaintance had mentioned it came with Le Prieur rockets. Got home and discovered that the box was missing the pilot sprue, so I got in touch with Hornby's USA, and they very kindly sent me an entire new kit. The rockets, to my mild exasperation, were molded to a set of struts, but with a little trimming, they were just fine for the Scout. More about the build after a bit - got to get started on the work day.  ;)

DSCF0341 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

Offline Frank3k

  • Excession
  • Global Moderator
  • Formerly Frank2056. New upgrade!
    • My new webpage
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2021, 05:37:21 AM »
Coming along nicely! If it weren't for the pictures of the real thing, I would have thought it was a product of Dr. Yo Industries. That prop will look great on it, too.

Offline Buzzbomb

  • Low Concentration Span, oft wanders betwixt projects
  • Accurate Scale representations of fictional stuff
    • Club and my stuff site
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2021, 01:55:02 PM »
Oh, yeah.. this was looking great.

Good to see you back at it

Online GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2021, 01:49:53 AM »
Oh, yeah.. this was looking great.

Good to see you back at it

Ditto
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2021, 12:21:44 AM »
Thanks, friends - glad to be back at it myself. I should be able to hit it with some primer this afternoon, if the weather holds good. Next up will be finally finishing the AEG G IVn, which along with the Vezdekhod Bolshoi, have been stuck in box I just got around to unpacking over the weekend. 

I have also started a couple of really ambitious projects, master patterns for a vacuform of the BFW N. 1, and the Dornier/Zeppelin RS. III. I hope to have the latter done by the time the Nationals roll back to Texas in 2024.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2021, 12:24:46 AM by Dr. YoKai »

Offline Old Wombat

  • "We'll see when I've finished whether I'm showing off or simply embarrassing myself."
  • "Define 'interesting'?"
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2021, 02:37:35 PM »
Coming along well, Doc! 8)
"This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our engine sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and, ah, explode."

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2022, 08:16:14 AM »
And not quite a year later, not quite finished, but mighty close. It all came together nicely I think - when I summon the courage to
tackle the rigging, I think it'll be pretty good.
DSCF0645 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

DSCF0649 by VileDr.Yo, on Flickr

Offline Old Wombat

  • "We'll see when I've finished whether I'm showing off or simply embarrassing myself."
  • "Define 'interesting'?"
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2022, 08:21:49 AM »
 :D :smiley:
"This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our engine sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and, ah, explode."

Online GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2022, 01:03:59 AM »
 :smiley:
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline Frank3k

  • Excession
  • Global Moderator
  • Formerly Frank2056. New upgrade!
    • My new webpage
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #47 on: January 03, 2022, 01:45:46 AM »
That's a bizarre looking plane! With the exhaust stacks pointing up, it reminds me of a beetle or similar insect. Great scratchbuild!

Online Dr. YoKai

  • Was in High School when mastadons roamed the plains...
  • A notorious curmudgeon who is partial to...hemp!
Re: The YoKai's World War Oneders - Air ( A. D. Scout III )
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2022, 01:09:55 AM »
That's a bizarre looking plane! With the exhaust stacks pointing up, it reminds me of a beetle or similar insect. Great scratchbuild!

 Thanks, Frank & all - I am slowly getting better, but I still have some room for improvement. The engine, prop and wheels came from the recent Airfix BE 2 Nightfighter, along with the wing struts and Le Prieur rockets. I added a small scoop to the top of the engine, representing some kind
of supercharger. While the engine alone represents a 30% increase in power ( the original used an 80 hp Le Rhone, while the BE2c had a 115 hp*
Royal Aircraft Factory 1a engine. (I think the Airfix instructions list it as 120 hp. harumph.), I figured in it's intended role as an interceptor, it might have benefitted from a bit more oomph.