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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2012, 05:39:51 AM »
That's gorgeous and it's got a great family resemblance to both the CF-100 and the C-102.

Thanks. I forgot to mention that the CX-112 used the canopy from the 'Clunk'. In the backstory, Avro is responding to a GoC dictat to focus on military projects. The C.102 engines were meant to be for the prototype only with twin Orenda turbofans planned for the production model.
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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2012, 05:43:23 AM »
It turns out that I didn't dump the Armstrong Whitworth original -- just bozoed the file names ;P

So, for Greg, here's an AW.24 Armadillo with twin Vickers 40mm S guns...
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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2012, 05:45:25 AM »
... and full sideviews of that AW.123 mailplane (sorry Jon, still no 3-views)
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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2012, 06:19:28 AM »
And here's another Avro Canada-related offering. In the backstory, the Jetliner prototype serves in the RCAF but, at the GoC's order, that airliner project is transferred to Canadair.

Canadair later evolves the C.102 airframe into a twin RR Dart transport called the Cosmopolitan.
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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2012, 06:23:58 AM »
Now we need a 1/72 C102 Jetliner to build all these beautiful birds.  :)
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2012, 10:14:21 AM »
Now we need a 1/72 C102 Jetliner to build all these beautiful birds.  :)

Indeed!

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2012, 06:07:02 AM »
Now we need a 1/72 C102 Jetliner to build all these beautiful birds.  :)

There was a rumour on IRSM site that Sharkit was going to produce a 1/72 Jetliner. No sign of it yet on Sharkit's website. Mind you, they've released a CL-84 in 1/72nd so hope springs!

Anyone know Renaud Mangallon? Maybe a nudge is required before Sharkit pups?  ;)
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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2012, 06:11:58 AM »
Next installment for the alternative AltCan: the Canadair-Douglas CC-233 Labrador.

With Douglas ending C-133B project, the time was right for a joint venture. A shortened C-133 fuselage was mated to CL-44 wings, tail, and Tyne turboprops. The RCAF used the CC-233 Labrador to shuttle NATO fighters to Europe.

Unfortunately for Douglas, the USAF didn't bite. Hopes had been pinned on riding on USAF CL-44 orders. When that [RW] MATS order fell through, so too did any chance of a USAF 'C-233'.
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2012, 08:30:14 AM »
Lovely AW.123 mailplanes. :-*
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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2012, 12:20:54 PM »
One for Tophe  ;)
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2012, 12:56:23 PM »
One for Tophe  ;)
Very nice blend of Noratlas and AT3.

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2012, 02:56:24 PM »
Those Labradors are great!

Even better is that you made one based at Namao, I grew up watching Hercules from there pass over town all the time.
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2012, 03:19:20 PM »
Re: the AW 123, I gather that your starting point was the P.23,
and were you thinking increased span or the same as the P.23?

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2012, 04:36:56 PM »
Lovely, just lovely work as usual.

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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2012, 05:13:25 PM »
Love your recent work.
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« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2012, 07:21:49 PM »
Re: CC-233 Labrador: Nice doggy.  :)

What would a C-124 Landseer look like?  ;)
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« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2012, 06:13:08 AM »
Cheers chaps -- much appreciated!

Upnorth: more Namao-based transports to come ...

Jon: Yes, the P.23 was my starting point for the AW.123. For the prototype, the rear fuselage and tailplane are almost identical to the Karas'. So too are the outer wing panels. The centre section would be widened slightly to take the twin engines and 'holed' to accommodate the retracted wheels.

TBG: The Landseer would, of course, be an air-sea rescue type painted in a distinctive black and white scheme. Popular with pilots (and the rescued) but less so with ground crews who had to mop up POL spills (aka Landseer 'slobber').
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2012, 06:16:17 AM »
'North: as promised, here's some more Namao-based heavies.

The Keewatin filled a gap between tactical and strategic transport for the RCAF. Another windy backstory but, long story/shorter: CC-152A is a Kawasaki C-1 outfitted for the RCAF by Canadair. The CC-152B was a trials conversion to BE.53 Pegasus (Bristol Aero Engines Canada). The production STOL variant was the CC-152C.
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2012, 09:06:28 AM »
Interesting transports!

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« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2012, 09:52:13 AM »
Thanks EH. And now for something a little more bellicose -- the Avro Belenus bomber.

Belenus ('brilliant'), BTW, was the celtic Sun-God. Seemed to fit for a nuclear-armed bomber.
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2012, 11:06:18 AM »
Brilliant!!!  :)

I am quite sure the RCAF flew these. Do you have a picture of these one bad boys in 428 SQN markings?
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« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2012, 02:05:11 PM »
Brilliant!!!  :)

I am quite sure the RCAF flew these. Do you have a picture of these one bad boys in 428 SQN markings?

Nooooo!  408 Sqn.  ;)
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2012, 07:11:54 PM »
Thanks EH. And now for something a little more bellicose -- the Avro Belenus bomber.

Belenus ('brilliant'), BTW, was the celtic Sun-God. Seemed to fit for a nuclear-armed bomber.
Agree 100%.
Stunning concept.

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« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2012, 08:29:59 PM »
Brilliant!!!  :)

I am quite sure the RCAF flew these. Do you have a picture of these one bad boys in 428 SQN markings?

Nooooo!  408 Sqn.  ;)

Goose over Ghost? No way!!!  ;D
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Re: Apophenia's Offerings
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2012, 03:57:17 AM »
Great work!  One could probably model that in plastic too!
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