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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => Black Projects GB => Topic started by: ysi_maniac on June 19, 2012, 10:26:49 PM

Title: Useful thread
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 19, 2012, 10:26:49 PM

This thread is intended to Q&A that can help people participating in this GB.

So ...

What is your favorite technique to weather a black plane?

Title: Re: Useful thread
Post by: taiidantomcat on June 20, 2012, 12:10:29 AM

My first step is making sure its a very "In-scale" black, in other words its an "off Black" or dark gray:

Here is a IMHO a good looking Corsair where the author used Black mixed with Red Brown:

(http://hyperscale.com/images/F4U5N_ICR2.jpg)

http://hyperscale.com/2009/features/f4u5n48ir_1.htm (http://hyperscale.com/2009/features/f4u5n48ir_1.htm)

Compare to the real thing (which is parked outside, so may be more "faded" than was the case in service):

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3375/3210829857_c812be1f87_z.jpg)

I also REALLY like this BF-110 though. It looks like it was panel shaded in various colors:

(http://u.jimdo.com/www25/o/s2ce9f596fe7f0331/img/i822e8ef1a5c84ac8/1323004788/std/hier-wird-das-auflockern-des-mattschwarzen-nachtj%C3%A4ger-anstriches-durch-die-segment-tarnung-schon-deutlich-prima.jpg)

http://www.panzer-bau.de/flugzeuge-1-32/me-110-d-nachtj%C3%A4ger-final/ (http://www.panzer-bau.de/flugzeuge-1-32/me-110-d-nachtj%C3%A4ger-final/)

Seen many 160th aircraft up close and they are very much a dark dark grey with many shades and panels:

(http://www.americanspecialops.com/images/photos/night-stalkers/mh-47-fast-rope.jpg)

The Chinook demonstrates it well because its large size is a shows the variations well.

Remember when adding a gloss coat that is permanently darkens the color, so take that into account.

Looking for more articles and other tidbits but this is what I have so far  :)

Title: Re: Useful thread
Post by: deathjester on June 20, 2012, 01:59:24 AM

A technique I used on a 1/72 SR-71 Blackbird - cover aircraft in Railmatch 'Roof Soot' colour enamel aerosol, then use successive blac washes to get the colour darker.  I finished up with a coat of matt Railmatch varnish.
Looked quite realistic!

Title: Re: Useful thread
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 20, 2012, 02:27:23 AM

While I have to accept that this Me-110 is a wonder, I prefer the way the Corsair in weathered. Just perfect.

Title: Re: Useful thread
Post by: taiidantomcat on June 20, 2012, 06:02:29 AM

Couple of Blackbird techniques:

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x130/charlesstrike/sr713.jpg)

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x130/charlesstrike/sr712.jpg)

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x130/charlesstrike/sr715.jpg)

http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=150672&hl=blackbird&st=0 (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=150672&hl=blackbird&st=0)

Powdered pastels^

Interesting Idea...

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal9/8501-8600/gal8549-SR-71-Beauvais/24.jpg)

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal9/8501-8600/gal8549-SR-71-Beauvais/25.jpg)

http://www.arcair.com/Gal9/8501-8600/gal8549-SR-71-Beauvais/00.shtm (http://www.arcair.com/Gal9/8501-8600/gal8549-SR-71-Beauvais/00.shtm)

Airbrush and pastel

Title: Re: Useful thread
Post by: RussC on June 20, 2012, 11:45:20 AM

Gotta be honest, at first I thought that the first two were some kind of "stellar" camo scheme! The rubbed look is cool and actually looks a lot like the blackbird at Pima when it was stored outdoors. And with the local blackbirds (feathered type) the first pic was accurate too....  :(

Great idea getting some iron brown into the mix too.

Superb build, T'