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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #100 on: April 24, 2017, 08:54:24 PM »
When I was getting bits and pieces to do this below, I thought about using B-52 wings for it. Problem was they were way too small in everyway.

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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #101 on: April 24, 2017, 09:12:46 PM »
The problem with the B-52 is that it's huge for a bomber, but not that huge for a transport - the 52 is about the same size as the Starlifter, but is positively dwarfed by the Galaxy. And while the 8-engine design may be advantageous in asymmetric thrust situations, it's just a maintenance black hole 99,99% of the time. I can see USAF wanting a transport version for "commonality" back in the day, but then again, there would probably be more sense in having a bit later larger 747F based transports and the suggested ALCM arsenal planes (which is what the G & H versions effectively were in their eventual nuclear deterrent role).

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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #102 on: April 25, 2017, 01:30:58 AM »
Maybe a tad boring, but a "quick smash" might just be using B-52 wings on a C-17 Fueselage, along with B-52 tails/tailfins. Bonus, you can use the C-17 wings for the re-engined B-52?

 ???

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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #103 on: April 25, 2017, 01:31:31 AM »
Perhaps something along these lines:
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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #104 on: April 25, 2017, 02:21:12 AM »
That looks neat Jon   :)

Now I wonder what we could use to make that (in 1/72 scale)  think on it I will   :icon_meditation:

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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #105 on: April 25, 2017, 02:50:31 AM »
Although not a transport per sae, this might give people some ideas:



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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #106 on: April 25, 2017, 07:04:13 AM »
Interesting looking AWACS...

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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #107 on: April 25, 2017, 08:02:57 AM »
Interesting looking AWACS...


engines were 8X TF34s so that some could be shut down to prolong time on station while maintaining reasonable takeoff performance with all at full military power.  I.e. shut some down completely rather than throttling back all of them.

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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #108 on: August 20, 2017, 05:16:46 AM »
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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #109 on: August 20, 2017, 05:21:09 AM »
Strangely attractive...
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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #110 on: August 20, 2017, 07:14:03 AM »
Me like very much!  :D
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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #111 on: August 20, 2017, 08:03:15 AM »



Love this. Paired engines have a certain appeal to me. :-*

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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #112 on: August 20, 2017, 08:09:52 AM »
I sort of did that with my Concorde B.1

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« Reply #113 on: October 12, 2019, 08:05:27 AM »
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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #114 on: January 02, 2020, 04:23:30 AM »
Just a photo:

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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #115 on: April 30, 2020, 08:43:44 AM »
Steve Trimble @TheDEWLine
New Lockheed image. Four AGM-183A ARRWs on a B-52H. Those are some serious boosters. A B-1B will be able to carry six.

AGM-183A. Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon (AARW) is a hypersonic strike weapon developed by the US Air Force.
https://defpost.com/lockheed-martin-releases-new-rendering-of-its-agm-183a-air-launched-rapid-response-weapon-arrw-showing-hypersonic-glide-warhead/

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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #116 on: May 13, 2020, 11:13:33 PM »
Jamie Hunter - Aviacom Media @jamie_aviacom
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USAF has released draft RFP to replace B-52H's TF33 engines. GE Aviation, Pratt & Whitney, and Rolls-Royce expected to respond. Read the full story in forthcoming June
@AIR_Intl and soon on @key_aero #USAF

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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #118 on: August 25, 2021, 03:19:11 AM »
Via Facebook. XB-52 Tilt-Rotor.

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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #119 on: August 25, 2021, 10:59:22 AM »
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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #120 on: August 25, 2021, 01:28:24 PM »
Wonderful,,,   and another   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #121 on: September 29, 2021, 02:42:16 AM »
Rolls-Royce North America selected to power the B-52 Commercial Engine Replacement Program

Rolls-Royce North America has been selected to provide the powerplant for the B-52 Stratofortress under the Commercial Engine Replacement Program (CERP), further extending a long history of powering the United States Air Force.

The decision means the American-made Rolls-Royce F-130 engine will power the B-52 for the next 30 years. The Air Force made the announcement after a vigorous multi-year competition.

Rolls-Royce will build and test the F130 engines at its Indianapolis, Indiana, facility following the recent completion of a $600 million investment to revitalize the advanced manufacturing campus -- providing some of the most technologically advanced state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities anywhere in the world. The B-52 CERP win creates demand for 650 engines to be produced at the site and will bring 150 new high-tech, high-skilled jobs for the state of Indiana.

[Note: The F130 is based on the BR725].

Press release here: https://www.rolls-royce.com/media/press-releases/2021/24-09-2021-rr-north-america-selected-to-power-the-b-52-commercial-engine-replacement-program.aspx
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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #122 on: September 29, 2021, 02:58:45 AM »
Was actually speaking with RR folks yesterday re this.  The F130 is a RR BR725 which is itself a variant of the BR710.  The BR725 is already used on platforms such as the Gulfstream G650.

Comparing engines:

P&W TF33-P-3 as already used on B-52H
Length: 142.3 in (3,610 mm)
Diameter: 53 in (1,300 mm)
Dry weight: 4,605 lb (2,089 kg)
Thrust:  17,000 lbf (75.62 kN)

RR F130 as proposed for new B-52?
Length: 129.8 in (3,297 mm)
Diameter: 50 in (1,270 mm)
Dry weight: 3,605 lb (1,635.2 kg )
Thrust:  17,000 lbf (75.62 kN) 

So same thrust but in a slightly smaller, lighter package.
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Re: Boeing B-52 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #123 on: September 29, 2021, 05:22:40 AM »
What about fuel and oil consumption rates of the F130 as compared to the TF-33?

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