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Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« on: June 24, 2012, 05:17:32 AM »
Hi folks,

A thread for your Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration.  Here's something to start you off:



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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 05:20:36 AM »
Now what if we move both engines to behind the pilot?

This would be a tail heavy beast, so I added a rear wheel as well:



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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 05:21:14 AM »
And developing a little further - a bubble canopy variant:



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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2012, 05:21:55 AM »
A two seat nightfighter variant with radar nose and upward firing cannon as well:



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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 05:22:22 AM »
Dedicated fast bomber variant with larger bombbay:



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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2012, 05:22:48 AM »
Anti-tank or Anti bomber variant:



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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2012, 05:23:12 AM »
Or alternatively, replace the engines with one large, 4000hp Argus As 413:



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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2012, 05:24:50 AM »
Twin Turboprop development:

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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2012, 05:25:28 AM »
Ever since I've been a kid, this is what I see in my mind when the subject of the Do-335 comes up:



I've never been able to bring myself to assemble one even though both the Monogram and Tamiya kits were purchased 1/3 a lifetime ago.   
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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2012, 05:26:06 AM »
My quick take on a dedicated Reno style racer but keeping piston engines (in this case Jumo 222s):



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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2012, 05:27:22 AM »
Twin Turboprop development:




Now that looks doable.  I wonder what that would look like with a Harrier T.4 style of canopy, with pilot in the backseat
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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2012, 05:38:21 AM »
Go for it.  BTW, in mine, the exhaust for the front turbine is on the starboard side.
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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2012, 06:54:12 AM »
And developing a little further - a bubble canopy variant:



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On this, and related ones, since the CofG would way back, why not replace the horizontal tail with a much larger wing, so that it approaches the condition of a tandem wing design?
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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2012, 12:01:42 PM »
Outstanding Russ.  Another BTS outstanding concept.  Love to approximate in plastic.  :-*
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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2012, 12:13:39 PM »
"AufFlug" (Elevator-Plane) -- the AufFlug was a precursor of the TriebFlugel.  Boosted by rockets for take-off & lifting vertically without guide-rails ...... the rockets often failed to lift the aircraft sufficiently for air-speed to be obtained, crashing to the ground ... the prop-blades digging a deep hole & throwing up clouds of dirt & so it was christened "AugerFlug" by its pilots.



I think I have most of the bits to do this in 48th !!

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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2012, 12:17:29 PM »
 :) ;D
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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2012, 12:28:48 PM »
That's a riot!
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2012, 12:40:18 PM »
Both the aforementioned.  8)

That's a riot!
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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2012, 01:42:33 PM »
I built up a Tamiya Do 335 as a post-war Silberpfeil (Silver Arrow) racer several years ago,
shortly after it was released IIRC.

The backstory was that post-war there was a new international air-racing series with races that were
combination pylon and endurance events. Sort of like the Thompson races that gave birth to the Reno
air races, but a much longer course with races of longer duration. There would also have been Bendix style
cross-country races. I went so far as figuring out 'rules', breaking it down into single and twin engine
classes and then sub-classes by displacement etc. The aircraft paint schemes would have followed the
FAI international auto racing schemes:
Green = UK, Silver = Germany, Blue = France, Red =Italy, Blue&White = US etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_auto_racing_colors

So, the Dornier was built gear up and the gun troughs filled in, then painted overall Silver (Tamiya Aluminum
Gloss buffed up with SNJ aluminum powder) with the registration DO-335 across the bottom of the wings
and a Daimler-Benz logo on the cowling. The aircraft would have competed in the large displacement, twin-engine
class. The pilot was to be Rudi Stuck, fictional cousin of real world Auto Union Silberpfeil driver Hans Stuck.
I used Rudi as his first name in honor of another Auto Union driver, Rudi Caracciola.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Arrows

The model got crunched a couple years later, and I had intended to build another but never got around to it. I sold
the replacement kit and most of the others I had intended (that word again) to build for my fictional Air-GP series
about four years ago. I don't recall that I ever got any photos of the Dornier before it met its messy demise.
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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2012, 07:25:47 PM »
Outstanding Russ.  Another BTS outstanding concept.  Love to approximate in plastic.  :-*
Is "Whifferwaffen" German equivalent of Lockheed Skunk Works ? ? ?

Thanks!  :D

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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2012, 02:17:27 PM »
Twin Turboprop development:




Now that looks doable.  I wonder what that would look like with a Harrier T.4 style of canopy, with pilot in the backseat


I am going with this and racer.  Like all profiles for what each is and art work of Japanese version.  Looking at Japanese version made me think of how 335 would be as post war in US Navy blue with Banshee/Panther like wing tip tanks.

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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2012, 11:44:47 PM »
Here's the aircraft Hitler was SUPPOSED to be on to fly out of besieged Berlin to Spain.

Mounted on twin rails deep underground, with a fortified door at the end of the rails opening briefly to allow it to escape, this aircraft was to fly Hitler, Goering, and Hanna Reitsch out of their bunker in Berlin. Hitler will sit up front with a view downward. Goering will sit in the main cockpit THINKING he is flying the plane (dummy controls installed), but Hanna will pilot it from the top seat. Jettisonable booster rockets will be on both sides.

This is a combo of D0-335, Ar-234 nose and jets. Paint scheme and markings will be "Fuhrermaschine", like the Fw-200 Hitler really had. I have an old Revell "Snark" missile rail-launch setup that will do nicely for this, AND have 1/72 figures for Hitler and Goering (Hanna will just be a HO-sale woman--she was tiny anyway).

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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2012, 05:18:36 PM »
Tank destroyer... With 3 30mm auto-cannons (like V-13 version) and rotary rocket launcher in bomb bay it could wreck havoc against allied tanks. And due its speed it can even live over western front battlefields.

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Re: Do-335 Pfeil Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2012, 11:49:04 AM »
"Fuhrermaschine"  ---  Is nice  :)
Someone should build it in plastic as either Fuhrermaschine or combat plane.