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Jonesthetank's Profiles
« on: April 26, 2017, 06:14:55 AM »
Over the past few years I have produced a number of profiles, but not posted a great deal.  So I thought it was time to get started.

In response to M.A.Ds request for a RAN E1 Tracer, here is my attempt, 851 Squadron RAN FAA.



Cheers

Mark

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 07:15:51 AM »
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Over the past few years I have produced a number of profiles, but not posted a great deal.  So I thought it was time to get started.

Long overdue!!  ;)


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WOW mate, it's great - thanks!!

Any chance of a turboprop variant of your Tracer in same scheme/markings please?

Thank's mate

M.A.D
« Last Edit: April 26, 2017, 07:21:18 AM by M.A.D »

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2017, 02:56:30 PM »
Nice work.  I plan to do a turboprop version of the same one day.  I have all the bits already for a 1/48 build too.
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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2017, 03:44:13 PM »
Nice profile.
While... it is difficult to read: is the electronic device long or almost circular? (a view from above would help understanding)

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2017, 07:08:46 PM »
Nice profile.
While... it is difficult to read: is the electronic device long or almost circular? (a view from above would help understanding)

If I may jonesthetank.....
I hope this help quantify the radome's shape a little.
It's a little like a computer mouse in shape :o

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2017, 01:57:21 AM »
It was also fixed in place
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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2017, 05:26:46 AM »
OK, turboprop nacelles taken from a Canadair CL415 and scaled up to fit.  Prop blades are a bit big, but they look about right to me.

Mark


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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 09:23:04 AM »
This is sweet!!!
Work in progress ::

I am giving up listing them. They all end up on the shelf of procrastination anyways.

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 04:34:58 PM »
 :)
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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2017, 02:10:32 AM »
Also on M.A.Ds wishlist was a Gannet AEW7.  Details were hard to come by, so I've used the few pictures I could find, and a lot of imagination, to produce the following.


And in Gull Grey and White



Maverick did a similar version a long time ago, but kept the original tail unit of the AEW3.

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2017, 03:52:24 AM »
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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2017, 12:55:22 PM »
Wow, outstanding Mark!
Thank's heaps mate!!
Your able and willingness to do these profiles have engaged me further into creating more to my backstory!

If you don't mind Mark, I'll PM you regarding yet another Grumman Tracker profile request (Grumman Design 215 / S2F-4)!!

Wow, now I'm pumped. I was really wanting to do my 'Alternative ADF ORBAT' backstory all in one. But I lost it all due to my computer crashing  :(
But I'm now considering posting the backstory in smaller segments, thanks to the kind efforts and talent s like your Mark!

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2017, 08:52:38 AM »
OK, turboprop nacelles taken from a Canadair CL415 and scaled up to fit.  Prop blades are a bit big, but they look about right to me.

Mark




Yes, I'm looking at this profile again :-*
I think my wife just asked me - "Are you looking at your aeroplane Pawn again?"  :P

With a little more research (and the assistance of GTX), these turboprops hence form shall be 2,750-eshp General Electric T64-GE-8 turboprops  ;)

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2017, 03:21:44 AM »
these turboprops hence form shall be 2,750-eshp General Electric T64-GE-8 turboprops  ;)



The T64 powered Design 215/S2F-4 should have been quite s spritely performer with the power from the twin T64-GE-8s (2750 shp each) far in excess of the TPE-331-15AW turboprops (1645 shp each) seen on real world S-2Ts or the original R-1820-82 piston engines(1530 shp each) even allowing for the greater weight of the engines and stretched fuselage (details below).


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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2017, 06:04:17 AM »
Thank's once again Greg, as I said, this 3-view drawing of the Design 215 / S2F-4 had alluded me in both terms of internet and my hard drives [now save to a safe place on my hard drive  ;D ]

Much more room for expansion/updates of the operational life of the S2F-4 don't you think, when compared to the S2F-3?

I've sent this to the great man jonesthetank with the hope he can work his magic  ;)

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2017, 03:24:04 AM »
Right, M.A.D has sent me a wishlist of profiles to have a stab at.  First off is a KC-97J, a KC-97 with T43 turbprops, underwing auxillary jet engines and a refuelling boom.



I've got others in the pipeline too, time and energy depending!

Mark

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2017, 03:30:21 AM »
And because I have a backlog of profiles here's one NOT off his list!

"As more Lancasterís became available from Canada and Australia, RAF Overseas units began to re-equip with the type.  By February 1945 6 Squadrons of Lancasterís were available to SEAC from bases in India.  They supplemented the more numerous B24s in SEAC, allowing some B24s to move to maritime duties.  From February to August 1945 the SEAC Lancasterís took part in numerous operations against Japanese positions in Burma, Thailand and Malaya.  At the end of the war the majority of these aircraft were mothballed in situ, later passing to Indian, Pakistani and French service."


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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2017, 03:46:13 AM »
Right, M.A.D has sent me a wishlist of profiles to have a stab at.  First off is a KC-97J, a KC-97 with T43 turbprops, underwing auxillary jet engines and a refuelling boom.



I've got others in the pipeline too, time and energy depending!

Mark


Oh nice one Mark. :P
With its T34 turboprop and axillary turbojet offering higher speed, altitude and off-loadable fuel, your KC-97J's are kept very busy by the ADF in my Alternative ADF ORBAT! :-*

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2017, 05:06:42 AM »
Also on the list was the Agusta A129 ABH, Australian Army Air Corps.



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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2017, 10:15:31 AM »
Also on the list was the Agusta A129 ABH, Australian Army Air Corps.



Mark


Oh Mark, that is the shit mate!!!!
Mate, do you have any idea how long Ive been wanting to get this A129 LBH in Australian Army colours and marking? :-*

Thank's heaps mate!

M.A.D
« Last Edit: May 04, 2017, 10:26:00 AM by M.A.D »

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2017, 04:24:30 AM »
Next on the list, the SF2-4 or S-2H Tracker.  The profile is a Frankenstein's monster of bits from an S-2E, bits of an E-1 Tracer, nacelles from a CL415 and a few other odds and ends too.  Not sure it's exactly how Mr Grumman planned it, but my attempt none the less.

First up in RAN colours


Then M.A.D asked for RAAF colours, so we settled on the Gull Grey and White scheme of the P-3 as delivered to the RAAF....


and the earlier Seaplane Grey scheme worn by the P-2 Neptunes.


Finally a couple of transports.  The Short Belfast.....also from the wishlist


and to finish off, a free gift, but another lumbering monster, the C-133 Cargomaster.


Cheers

Mark

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2017, 04:25:27 AM »
 :)
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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2017, 03:11:01 PM »
Oh wow, what can I say Mark!
If this is Frankenstein, then I can only say "Its alive!!!"
These are truly outstanding pieces of work, especially when one considers the meagre snippets of information I gave you!

I'm currently writing feverishly on my project, and only hope my backstory can do your time, effort and appreciated profiles justice!

What do you think Greg / GTX, 're our earlier conversation (PM)?

P.S.Your Belfast has a big role to play in remedying the 'real-world' ADF's shortfalls in heavy/outsize lift ccapability in my backstory! You must have read my mind 're the C-133, as it along with the Belfast, was the contender for the RAAF's Long-Range, Heavy Lift Transport Aircraft RfP.
The Belfast eventuality being selected on the grounds of it being a later design, still being in production, and it's latter generation turboprop engines; outweighing the C-133's inherent heavier lift capability........

M.A.D
« Last Edit: May 09, 2017, 05:59:23 PM by M.A.D »

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2017, 02:07:50 AM »
Looking very fine.  Has the SF2-4 been lengthened?
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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2017, 02:08:23 AM »
BTW, an AEW variant of the SF2-4 would also look cool... 8)
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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2017, 02:47:13 AM »
I have lengthened the fuselage.  The E-1 is just over 45 feet long, the SF2-4 was going to be over 46 feet long, so I used the line drawing you supplied GTX, an old profile by Maverick, and a lot of "Mmmm, looks ABOUT right" to make my template.

I thought an AEW version would look good too........so I'll see what I can do!

Mark

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2017, 04:36:58 AM »
M.A.D asked me to have a go at creating a profile of the Vought V.384, which was designed as a lightweight version of the F-8 Crusader.  I have to admit, I'd never heard of it, but Rob (M.A.D) sent me off in the direction of Retromechanix, which had a few drawings from the early 1960s.  I used the following one as the "reference" for my go at a profile.


Using a selection of F-8 drawings and yet more "looks about right" I've done profiles of the V384 in RAN colours, assuming extended service, (with upgrades) from about 1961 to 1985.  Hopefully they will fit in with M.A.D's Alternative ADF Orbat.

Delivery scheme


Mid Life update, with added AIM9 Sidewinders, mounted as per the F-8B


Later life, with increased AIM9 capability


In the "infamous" A-4 Aggressor scheme


And finally in a low viz scheme, using an idea from Gekko Graphics


Cheers

Mark

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2017, 10:55:28 AM »
 :)

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2017, 10:42:21 AM »
Looks nice! :)


(But I'd prefer the F-8, myself. ;) )


The Tracker variants look good, too, &, as I intend building a turbo-Tracker from one of my remaining kits, I may steal your twin-tail idea.
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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2017, 03:15:30 AM »
Evening all.  It's been a while, but I have been snowed under at work and at home.

Rob (M.A.D) asked for a few revisions to fit in with his ADF backstory, plus a few changes to the V384, mainly make the gun muzzles more obvious and add an arrestor hook, which is always a good idea on a carrier aircraft!

To go with that Rob asked if I could alter the Belfast to give it extra undercarriage for rough field capabilites, plus some more paint schemes.

As always, I'm happy to oblige.

First off revised RAN V384s, a two seater.



Then to show the multirole capabilities of the aircraft, one armed with Aim7 Sparrows and one with Matra rocket pods/fuel tanks.








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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2017, 03:19:16 AM »
Then some overseas buyers.  Rob will fill in the details with his ADF backstory.

Argentina


Canada


India


The Netherlands

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2017, 03:24:27 AM »
As the main tactical transport for the RAAF, I added the new undercarriage and then put the Belfast in the colour schemes of the RAAF's C-130s and Caribous.

Early tactical scheme


Late tactical scheme


Caribou green scheme


Caribou army scheme


Caribou red desert scheme


Phew.  Right I'm going for a lie down now  ;)

Cheers

Mark


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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2017, 06:24:47 AM »
Bloody fantastic work thank you Mark
Love the two-seat V384, she looks great!
Very much appreciate your time and efforts as per usual - especially with you facilitating and incorporating my endless wants of tweaks   ;)
The Belfast's additional main landing gear colour schemes look cool  :P
You can now stand down my friend  ;D

M.A.D
« Last Edit: June 14, 2017, 06:26:58 AM by M.A.D »

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2017, 07:09:31 AM »
I like all three Caribou schemes.
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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2017, 09:55:55 PM »
 :)

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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2017, 06:05:14 AM »
On the profile request board Artoor asked for an F-4J in low viz Polish markings, so I thought I'd give it a go.

Cheers

Mark



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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2019, 03:33:36 AM »
It's been a long while since I posted anything.  2018 was not a great year, so whiffing took a back seat.

M.A.D asked me a long time back about an Electra based AWACS aircraft for the RAAF.  Here is my first stab at it.  I think I've undersized the radome, which I "nicked" from an E-2 Hawkeye.


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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2019, 03:34:56 AM »
And I also managed to find a real version, based on the P-3


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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2019, 03:37:12 AM »
While the Alize AEW debate rages, here are my attempts at an early Aeronavale version, with upper and lower radomes.




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Re: Jonesthetank's Profiles
« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2019, 02:10:48 AM »
 :smiley:
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