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Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« on: June 09, 2012, 05:13:10 AM »
Hi folks,

A thread for your Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration.


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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2012, 05:15:40 AM »
Here's a few to start:















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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2012, 01:38:44 PM »

Original six-gun design


Metrovick F.2 engines

Variations on a theme:








Roughly 'Meteor-ish':


Also considered: an 8-gun ground attack fighter consisting of an F.8 fuselage mated to NF.11 wings.

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2012, 02:21:28 PM »
That Mistel lower-component as a "prone-pilot" version would go nice :)

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2012, 02:45:10 PM »
Bunch of neat designs.  Can't pick one favorite.  Maybe P262 and P300.

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2012, 10:54:42 PM »
Had hoped some years back that Tamiya would release  a Meteor F.4 so I could do the P.203.    I'm saving my CA issues for other things.   
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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2012, 12:54:56 AM »
I made a start on a Metro-Vick F9-40M, they were originally known as the Rampage which was one of the many code names the jets had before they got called Meteor.

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2012, 03:15:15 AM »
Useful drawing of the Trent Meteor:



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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2012, 03:21:47 AM »
Anyone ever done an operational Naval Meteor?

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2012, 03:22:32 AM »
That will be very useful Greg, Becaus ethe Unicraft conversion has the propellers all wrong.  I've found some Aeroclub five blade props which are just a little bigger in diameter than those shown which come of a Short Sherpa.  They're just long enough so I can re-profile the blade tips

Top pic of the Trent Meteor I've started and below a pic of the real engine and prop.  BTW, even though the blade shape looks like those found on a later mark Spitfire, you can't use a scaled down set on the Trent because the prop turns in the opposite direction

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2012, 03:24:06 AM »
I was just going to post a couple of pics of the Sea Meteor, it used a DH Hornet arrestor hook

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2012, 03:25:57 AM »
How about this radar tested version

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2012, 03:26:56 AM »
Glad to be of service.

Another idea:  Gloster Meteors operating over Japan in '46:


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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2012, 03:31:29 AM »
Let's take that prone Meteor a little further:

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2012, 03:42:35 AM »
Some more Naval Metoer photos:


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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2012, 04:16:42 AM »
Off topic, but what is the Lancaster-based gas can named?

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2012, 05:40:07 AM »
Combine Trent Meteor with later Gloster G.44 Reaper:

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2012, 05:45:04 AM »
Off topic, but what is the Lancaster-based gas can named?

Um! a Lancaster --- yes - really.  Flight Refueling Ltd had it converted with the blunt nose for their 'probe-&-drogue' tests

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2012, 05:54:16 AM »
I have three Meteor projects on my one-of-these-days list:

Reaper: as per the real Reaper, but with NF.11 outer wings as well to give 8 x guns.

Ripper: tankbuster with Trent turboprops, tip tanks, and a big centreline gun like the top profile from Greg's original post.

Raptor: night-fighter with the inaccurate longest nose option from the Matchbox kit and big, early AAMs on the wingtips (a single-seater really was used for early Red Dean trials whilst the latter was still a Folland project).

The idea is to do all three in company demonstrator-style colours with civilian reg.codes (G-REAP etc...) then put them on a tarmac base with a barrier, big name & info placards, and some suits and punters as if it's a display at an airshow. The backstory is that the RAF buy the DH.110 Vixen instead of the Javelin, thus leaving Glosters to rather desperately toute "advanced" Meteors to anyone who's interested, shortly before they go bust.
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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2012, 06:00:19 AM »
Re the Trent Meteor: I'm puzzled. All the pics and drawings I can find, and that pic of the engine, suggest that the prop axis was well above the axis of the engine and the wing leading edge, yet the RV Resins drawings posted here seem to show the prop co-axial with the engine and in line with the wing leading edge.

What gives? ???
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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2012, 06:19:12 AM »

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2012, 06:48:16 AM »
Re the Trent Meteor: I'm puzzled. All the pics and drawings I can find, and that pic of the engine, suggest that the prop axis was well above the axis of the engine and the wing leading edge, yet the RV Resins drawings posted here seem to show the prop co-axial with the engine and in line with the wing leading edge.

What gives? ???

It is quite possible the RV Resins dwg is wrong, below is a side view of the Unicraft conversion which has the prop center well above the wing leading edge.  Even though the Trent Meteor had the same extended u/c that the Metro-Vick Meteor, it still needed the prop center well above the wing to get prop clearance with the ground. The prop though was still around 7 feet in diameter

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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2012, 06:49:56 AM »
Quite possibly - I have found errors in some of their drawings before...though they do produce nice drawings...
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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2012, 06:57:52 AM »
I'd be cautious with the RV drawings. I've read a  review of their F-4 drawings on a German board that stated there are some serious issues with those plans, getting rather basic variant differences wrong. USAF parts on USN/USMC variants, squashed canopy and mixed up nozzles. The review also said the Revell 1/72 F-4F fits the plans rather nicely. That's not encouraging. While it's a nice kit, it's not all that good a representation of the plane.
Their MiG-21 drawings aren't much better.
Personally, I think the cockpit area in some of their MiG-23 plans is also rather suspect, with the whole windscreen assembly sitting on top of the fuselage (as opposed to worked into it) and the angle of the windscreen wrong (too obtuse, I think).
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Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2012, 07:00:22 AM »
Let's take that prone Meteor a little further:




  Gloster Gander (after the goose) but I guess, with such a long neck, they'd prefer the "Airborne Swan".