Beyond The Sprues
Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => Beyond '46 GB => Topic started by: Empty Handed on May 11, 2013, 02:01:31 AM
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Been playing with the idea of an inline AF Tigercat for a while and this group build might actually see it done!
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7286/8729003498_4838ed0024_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/8729003498/)
Grumman P-65F (BTO) Tigercat (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/8729003498/#) by mtpalmer1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/80037838@N03/), on Flickr
The Bomb-Through-Overcast nose and auxiliary jet just sort of added themselves as I went along!
Edit: Sorry about the ghost effect! Hopefully this is a little better? The more-or-less finished line art.
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Interesting...
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And its a stealth ship, too! ( The lines are really, really faint, EH - I can make out the shape, but its
a bit hard on the eyes,mate!)
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Just sort of added themselves huh? ;D Can't wait to see some war paint man :)
What engines are those? Merlins?
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Sorry Dr. YoKai, hopefully that's been fixed!
Cliffy B, yep Packard Merlins. The cowling is something of a cross between a F-82 and a Lancaster!
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I love the engines. :-*
Can you repeat it with the original nice nose and darker lines?
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Progress! Shadows, canopy, etc. more or less done (no doubt tweeks will be necessary). Weathering is way up to show it off btw. Trying something new with a "primer" layer. War paint coming up next.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7360/8729979152_d4a137134f_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/8729979152/)
Grumman P-65F (BTO) Tigercat Primer (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/8729979152/#) by mtpalmer1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/80037838@N03/), on Flickr
FYI the pic that shows in the forums is just a preview not the real thing. Click on the pic to go to Flickr, once there right-click the image to get different size options. Go for the "Large 1600" or "Large 2048" options to see her properly! :)
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Wait a minute! Is that a jet engine at the rear? ???
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BTW, my recommendation (freely ignore if you wish): Do it as a recon bird in the blue scheme some of the USAAF Spits, Mosquitos etc wore.
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^ Westinghouse J30 for a Kinder Egg moment when they get bounced by enemy fighters. ;)
I'll defo do a PR Blue one but the first one's scheme is already decided upon.
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^ Westinghouse J30 for a Kinder Egg moment when they get bounced by enemy fighters. ;)
You cheeky bugger! I bet you thought you were going to be able to simply sneak that by us... :) ;D
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Curses!!! Foiled again!!!
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Wait a minute! Is that a jet engine at the rear? ???
Greg did you read the first post? ;)
Looks like a target tug or other utility aircraft. Postwar schemes in the future maybe *hint, hint* ?
From the line drawing I thought more of the nose would be glass? What exactly does the guy do up there? ???
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Oh that's just the template I'll be using. I put it into a yellow-chromate primer type scheme so that the weathering and shadows had something to play off of. My first paint scheme looks a little more like this....
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7371/8730370023_db63e5b1bf_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/8730370023/)
Grumman P-65F (BTO) Tigercat FSAAF WIP (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/8730370023/#) by mtpalmer1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/80037838@N03/), on Flickr
Not quite complete yet but getting there.
From the line drawing I thought more of the nose would be glass? What exactly does the guy do up there?
It's a H2X Bomb-Through-Overcast radar (off of a P-38). She's an all-weather-ish pathfinder for her gun-nose sisters. The window is a bone thrown to the rather unlucky operator. More here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H2X_radar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H2X_radar)
http://www.486th.org/Photos/AC2/MkySet.htm (http://www.486th.org/Photos/AC2/MkySet.htm)
Now you may recall that I have a penchant for orange so to get it into this profile I figured I'd make it a Free South African Air Force unit attached to the USAAF. How did South Africa fall? Well if Versailles were a little kinder, perhaps Germany could have held onto these......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_East_Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_East_Africa)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_South-West_Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_South-West_Africa)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_New_Guinea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_New_Guinea) <--------------- this one not really relevant here but very interesting!
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OK pretty much done....
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/8732687766_5851f43be5_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/8732687766/)
Grumman P-65F (BTO) Tigercat FSAAF (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/8732687766/#) by mtpalmer1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/80037838@N03/), on Flickr
Also a little something else I've been working on....
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/8737105920_ffce815c25_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/8737105920/)
Vickers Windsor B.II (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/8737105920/#) by mtpalmer1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/80037838@N03/), on Flickr
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Dude ... !!! That HURTS my eyes ... !!!!!!
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Erk! I really dig the Windsor...textra turrets are one thing but...ow. ow. ow.
No offence, amigo - the Tigercat came out beautiful!
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Your P-65F is gorgeous! :-* Looking forward to the Windsor too :)
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Awwww come on! It's not that bad!!!!!
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7286/8736083073_c4378278d8_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/8736083073/)
Vickers Windsor B.II RAF Tiger Force 635 Sqn (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/8736083073/#) by mtpalmer1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/80037838@N03/), on Flickr
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Two words sir, Exhaust Suppression!!!! If she's a dedicated night time bird then those snazzy little exhaust flames might as well be searchlights. Not trying to rain on your parade, just saying ;)
What kinda gunnery is she carrying? Is that an over-under tail gun arrangement? If so then is that another sticking out of the back of the engine housing???!!! :o
She's weird looking, ungainly, and just plain odd, but I like it!!!!!!!!!!
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Is that an over-under tail gun arrangement? If so then is that another sticking out of the back of the engine housing???!!!
4 20mm guns in remote-controlled barbettes in rear of outer engine nacelles, see:
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Visschedijk/Additions/11549L-1.jpg (http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Visschedijk/Additions/11549L-1.jpg)
http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/MY/MY76-10/21-1.jpg (http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/MY/MY76-10/21-1.jpg)
FYI the throttles have just been pushed up as she hits the IP. Or something. The flames were just something I wanted to have a go at. She's too high for effective flak and there probably aren't too many nightfighters in the CBI theatre c1946.
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Those are some NEAT gun installations!!! I'll have to make a note of those 8)
I figured as much about the flames. I was just busting your chops about 'em man, no worries ;D
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Oh I know, I was just sort of self rationalising. Wanted to sound more intelligent than "me like pretty lights"! To be honest, with 7 20mm cannon to play with, being intercepted by a Ki-102 or the like isn't really going to ruin the night! >:D
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Depends on whose night you're talking about. Being on the receiving end of 7 20mm will ruin just about anyone's night ;D
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And the exhaust glare will be really hard to spot once those seven 20s light up!
Nice work on the Windsor, EH :)
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Is that an over-under tail gun arrangement? If so then is that another sticking out of the back of the engine housing???!!!
4 20mm guns in remote-controlled barbettes in rear of outer engine nacelles, see:
Initially they were trialed at the rear of the inner nacelles on a Lancaster, but that's the first time I've seen a pic of the Warwick with them.
Maybe your Windsor needs a couple of these too --- also with 20mm's
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Hmm. That almost makes building the ancient Pavla Ki-102 I have in the stash a moral imperative.
It is a beautiful profile...I just so love the smooth contours of the original Windsor that its
a bit of a shock seeing it like this.
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Gloster's N.21/45 submission became the Grampus NF.1 in Royal Navy service. Powered by twin Rolls-Royce Crecys, it proved to be a valuable asset in the Soviet War.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3757/9251463112_04a6a89f93_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/9251463112/)
Gloster Grampus NF.1A RN (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80037838@N03/9251463112/#) by mtpalmer1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/80037838@N03/), on Flickr
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Mighty pretty - dig the name, too.
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Yes! that does look really interesting ----