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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => 2015/16 Clear Your Workbench GB => Topic started by: Tophe on December 06, 2015, 02:34:54 PM

Title: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on December 06, 2015, 02:34:54 PM

A long time ago, I considered drawing a P-51, B or/and D (either normal or cartoon), to look like the weird Airspeed AS.31, becoming AS-51
(I built a model of the AS.31 in the past, from http://www.unicraft.biz/on/as31/as31.htm (http://www.unicraft.biz/on/as31/as31.htm) )
I never finished this AS-51 project, with uncomfortable rear of pod, but I may try for real (to draw it) at last. Even ugly, this would be finished.

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Kerick on December 06, 2015, 09:27:02 PM

Reminds me of a SW pod racer! I don't know how you would do that with a Mustang but go for it!

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on December 06, 2015, 11:21:14 PM

Thanks. ;)
I think this is the result (first try), as drawing is so fast compared to building a model kit...
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_ek.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on December 07, 2015, 12:56:33 AM

As visibility is poor with this rear pod, it is better to take advantage that this pod has no engine on its nose, so it ready to receive glazed parts:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_em.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on December 07, 2015, 01:46:13 AM

And with such pods, it was easy to draw the nuclear AS-51N, not twin-boom alas but Very long range with nuclear engine and plutonium tanks (and maximum distance for the pilot, for safety):
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_ep.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: ysi_maniac on December 11, 2015, 08:43:08 AM

^^^^
Love this idea.

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on December 11, 2015, 10:22:50 AM

Thanks a lot! ;)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on December 16, 2015, 12:47:54 AM

Of course, derivatives are the AS-82D and AS-82T (Airspeed nuclear Double-Mustang and Airspeed nuclear Twin-Mustang)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_eq.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on December 16, 2015, 08:12:05 PM

Before the AS-82s was the AS-51Z Zwilling:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_es.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on December 17, 2015, 02:12:46 AM

As The Lord Above prefers twin-boomers, the central boom was removed into the AS-51Z-2:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_et.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on December 19, 2015, 02:39:21 PM

Officials claiming that a Mustang DOES NOT have two-booms, the AS-51Z-3 was designed:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_ev.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on December 19, 2015, 02:46:50 PM

Officials claiming that a regular Mustang DOES NOT have two engines nor 2 pilots, the Airspeed designers smiled then the AS-51Z-4 was designed:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_ew.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on December 21, 2015, 10:57:20 PM

Without boom(s) but with pods, the AS-51Xs (XD and XB) were two-seaters:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_fb.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on December 22, 2015, 01:00:42 PM

Of course, there was too much drag on the AS-51X and this was cured on the AS-51Y (Whystangs) then tailless AS-51W (Wingstangs):
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_fd.jpg)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_fe.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on January 20, 2016, 01:20:44 PM

Late addition: of course, there were canard derivatives, their main problem was that bailing out was pretended "dangerous"... I don't know why, and no (surviving) pilot did explain...
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_fr.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on January 20, 2016, 08:09:32 PM

Among canard Airspeed-Mustangs also, there were Zwilling-82s:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_fs.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: DFZ on January 22, 2016, 07:53:42 PM

 :icon_surprised: Now that's a big wing! ;) :)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on January 23, 2016, 03:43:54 PM

Thanks!
But that it is right: no need of Twin/Zwilling plane to have such a "big wing", a multi-engine layout is enough:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_fu.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: apophenia on January 25, 2016, 09:18:31 AM

Nice! That last one is sort of an anti-AS.31  :D

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Kerick on January 25, 2016, 10:19:03 AM

Quote from: Tophe on January 23, 2016, 03:43:54 PM

Thanks!
But that it is right: no need of Twin/Zwilling plane to have such a "big wing", a multi-engine layout is enough:
([url]http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_fu.jpg[/url])

Starting to look a little Klingon to me..... Hmmmmm....
Retro Klingon battle cruiser?
Its been done with Vipers and X wings.....

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on January 26, 2016, 02:43:09 AM

Thanks apophenia!

Kerick, I ignored completely what you were speaking of, but Google explained:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/2015/Klingon_zpspllpv7wy.jpg)
it seems I have invented it again, yes, almost... ;)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Kerick on January 26, 2016, 06:29:55 AM

A P-51D midsection, a dowel rod and a B-25/26 wing. Make a couple of cuts in the wing to turn down the outer portions and add greeblies. Presto! Retro Klingon stuff!

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on January 27, 2016, 02:20:10 AM

Quote from: kerick on January 26, 2016, 06:29:55 AM

A P-51D midsection, a dowel rod and a B-25/26 wing. Make a couple of cuts in the wing to turn down the outer portions and add greeblies. Presto! Retro Klingon stuff!

Sorry I do not understand all (even Google Translate failed to translate all in my French, especially "greeblies"??), but B-25/26 wing means radial engines and that is a good idea, thanks! And turning down external wings provide lateral control with no need of fins anymore, good also!
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_fv.jpg)

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Kerick on January 27, 2016, 03:39:37 AM

"Greeblies" is a word used to describe all the little pieces added to the outside of many science fiction vehicles and ships to make them look interesting. Most Star Wars vehicles were covered in parts from many different model kits to add visual interest. The Millenium Falcon and the Star Destroyers are the best examples of this.
I hope this helps.
This retro Klingon ship idea is starting to get interesting to me. And the SF group build set to begin....

Title: Re: Airspeeding the Mustang(s)
Post by: Tophe on January 28, 2016, 01:30:41 AM

Thanks for this Science-Fiction English lesson! ;)

EDIT: and radial engines on Airspeed Mustangs indeed brought new silhouettes:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_fx.jpg)