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Title: Spot the Errors II - All errors
Post by: JP Vieira on April 19, 2012, 07:36:19 PM
Hello
Back by popular demand is the Spot the Errors Thread!
only two rules:
a) a maximum of 2 errors identified in each post
b) no consecutive posts by each member (after your post, let another member have a go before posting another).
There are 45 errors (perhaps some more I could not identify ;) )
Have fun!

And donīt forget (if you haven't already) to vote on the GB competition for your favourite

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and

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BAc Lightning F.MK6
RAF

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6erroscopy.jpg)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: The Big Gimper on April 19, 2012, 09:27:44 PM
1. Admiral Petty Office 3rd Class Johnston?
2. Since when is BBQ/Barbeque a valid RAF tail code?  Oz yes. UK, no. ;)

Carl
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: gofy on April 19, 2012, 09:36:45 PM
Sharkmouth?
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: taiidantomcat on April 19, 2012, 09:51:39 PM
Different color roundel/ national markings and the AAM has no seeker head from what I can tell  ;D
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 19, 2012, 10:11:40 PM
1. Admiral Petty Office 3rd Class Johnston?

Yes, this pilot, even is now an Admiral don’t want to forget he started as a Petty Officer 3rd class ;)

2. Since when is BBQ/Barbeque a valid RAF tail code?  Oz yes. UK, no. ;)
Carl
Personally I think it makes the Lightning an even hotter aircraft ;)

Thank you for participating
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 19, 2012, 10:12:42 PM
Sharkmouth?
Correct.
Even thought some Lightning had the sharkmouth not this one
Thank you for participating.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 19, 2012, 10:14:14 PM
Different color roundel/ national markings
Correct; althought technically 3 errors, I will accept. :)

... the AAM has no seeker head from what I can tell  ;D
Yes; no wonder the missile could not home on the target ;)

Thank you for participating

Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 19, 2012, 10:16:03 PM
And donīt forget (if you haven't already) to vote on the GB competition for your favourite

Physical creations at http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1244.0 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1244.0)
and
Profiles & Pixels at http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1245.0
 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1245.0)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: Slerski on April 19, 2012, 11:28:22 PM
The Splinter-paint scheme and the F-8 radome ?
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 20, 2012, 02:30:11 AM
The Splinter-paint scheme and the F-8 radome ?

You are twice correct! :)
Thank you for participating
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 20, 2012, 03:25:50 AM
Duplicate bang-seat warning placards and the blue wingtip light.

Brian da Basher

Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: gofy on April 20, 2012, 10:13:15 AM
Tail hook?
Two eagles on the tail?

Mr.Gofy
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: Cliffy B on April 20, 2012, 11:33:32 AM
Those three short, vertical "antennae" on the spine (directly above the forward tip of the wing tank)
The blue canopy framing?
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 20, 2012, 03:06:08 PM
Duplicate bang-seat warning placards
Sorry, this is correct, althought there is something not exact with it... ;)

and the blue wingtip light.

You are correct.
Thanks for participating
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 20, 2012, 03:07:27 PM
Tail hook?
Yes, but what exactly is wrong with it?

Two eagles on the tail?
Sorry this is correct for the Squadron; but there is something wrong with it... ;)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 20, 2012, 03:08:46 PM
Those three short, vertical "antennae" on the spine (directly above the forward tip of the wing tank)
Sorry, those are correct, althought there is something not exactly right with it... ;)

The blue canopy framing?
You are correct.

Thank you for participating
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 20, 2012, 03:10:22 PM
And donīt forget (if you haven't already) to vote on the GB competition for your favourite

Physical creations at http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1244.0 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1244.0)

and

Profiles & Pixels at http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1245.0
 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1245.0)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 20, 2012, 05:35:36 PM
Hello
To help identify and keep track of errors, I present the image with the errors so far discovered shown.
In Yellow those already revealed;
In blue those mentioned but that need further explaining why they are errors (because they belong to the aircraft, but there is something not quit right with them).

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6erroscopy-1.jpg)

I want to point out that this thread will run until the end of the voting (April 26th).
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 21, 2012, 02:30:43 AM
Backward facing/extra intake on spine.
Additional NACA style intake just above missile.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: Empty Handed on April 21, 2012, 03:37:41 AM
SX904 is an Avro Lancaster!

Tandem gunsights???

Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 21, 2012, 04:40:32 AM
Backward facing/extra intake on spine.
Additional NACA style intake just above missile.

You are twice correct :)
Thanks for participating
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 21, 2012, 04:41:12 AM
SX904 is an Avro Lancaster!

Tandem gunsights???

Correct both times. :)
Thanks for participating
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: nebnoswal on April 21, 2012, 08:25:58 PM
There are 2 eagles on the tail, but there are 6 wings.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 21, 2012, 08:46:51 PM
There are 2 eagles on the tail, but there are 6 wings.

Correct! Even thought RAF Eagles are amazing, that was an error ;)
Thank you for participating
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 21, 2012, 08:55:10 PM
Hello
Here is an update on the errors so far discovered.
In Yellow those already revealed;
In blue those mentioned but that need further explaining why they are errors (because they belong to the aircraft, but there is something not quit right with them).


(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6erros2copy.jpg)


I want to point out that this thread will run until the end of the voting (April 26th).
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 22, 2012, 03:23:49 AM
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 22, 2012, 03:29:01 AM
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 22, 2012, 03:29:36 AM
  • The probe or sensor (or whatever that thing is supposed to be) directly in front of the windscreen shouldn't be there.

Yes you are correct; it is a IR sensor (and perhaps it should have been there ;) )

  • Re the three antenna on the spine, there should only be one, not three.

Sorry, that is not the error with it... the 3 antenna belong to the Lightning, and the reason why it is an error on this image is perhaps a very simple one.

Thank you Greg :)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: Cliffy B on April 22, 2012, 03:31:00 AM
RE the trio of antennae, is it their color?
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 22, 2012, 03:32:07 AM
  • The blade antenna under the nose is way too forward
  • There are another set of three antenna under the rear fuselage Iin line with the Accessory Gearbox turbo pump exhaust) - they shouldn't be there

No, no, you must allow another member to have a go before you try again (please, see ruler number two). :)
As there was another member posting almost imediattly, I will consider that.

You are twice correct.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 22, 2012, 03:33:13 AM
RE the trio of antennae, is it their color?

Sorry no; it is even more simpler than that... ;)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 22, 2012, 03:37:59 AM

  • Re the three antenna on the spine, there should only be one, not three.

Sorry, that is not the error with it... the 3 antenna belong to the Lightning, and the reason why it is an error on this image is perhaps a very simple one.

Thank you Greg :)

Hmmm...we may have to disagree there.  Where is the adjudicator?

I will wait until I see the 'correct' answer, but I have seen photos etc without three... ???
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 22, 2012, 03:45:04 AM

  • Re the three antenna on the spine, there should only be one, not three.

Sorry, that is not the error with it... the 3 antenna belong to the Lightning, and the reason why it is an error on this image is perhaps a very simple one.

Thank you Greg :)

Hmmm...we may have to disagree there.  Where is the adjudicator?

I will wait until I see the 'correct' answer, but I have seen photos etc without three... ???

Sorry Greg you are correct; it is only one antenna; althought the error I appointed was that it was placed way forward that it should.
Too much errors to create in only one plane... ;)

I will give also credit to Clify B for spoting there was something wrong with the antenna  in the first place.
To you both and all other, my appologies.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 22, 2012, 03:49:53 AM
thanks - I was really baffled when you replied that I was wrong.  Started looking back over photos...was really hanging out to see what your error actually was.  What did you think was wrong just out of interest?

still loving these challenges though - they are great and sharpen the mind! :)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 22, 2012, 04:01:11 AM
thanks - I was really baffled when you replied that I was wrong.  Started looking back over photos...was really hanging out to see what your error actually was.  What did you think was wrong just out of interest?
The problem was that I copy the original antenna (3 times) and then place it forward and only marked that as an error (without marking it as two errors - 3 antenna instead of one and the place were it was placed).

still loving these challenges though - they are great and sharpen the mind! :)

Thank you; I hope you and all members continue to discover the errors; I will try not to make any more in recognizing it ;)

The problem was that I copy the original antenna (3 times) and then place it forward and only marked that as an error (without marking it as two errors - 3 antenna instead of one and the place were it was placed).
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 22, 2012, 04:02:46 AM
Of course, you now have a new member title... ;)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 22, 2012, 05:42:31 AM
Of course, you now have a new member title... ;)

Thank you; I think I will keep this one ... ;)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 22, 2012, 05:49:53 AM
Here is an update on the errors discovered


(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6erros3.jpg)

Only a few more days to go... :)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 22, 2012, 05:54:57 AM
Well I have a few mre ideas..but I am going to let others have a go first. :D
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: Cliffy B on April 22, 2012, 07:15:02 AM
RE the ejection seat placards, their location is incorrect.  They should be directly under the canopy IE the pilot.  Yes, there should be two as well.  Seems rather odd but photos show two.  Can you explain please?

That "exhaust outlet" looking thing you have directly above the horizontal stabilizer.  Best I can tell it should be higher and further forward; Directly above the main wing tip and in between the engines.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: philp on April 22, 2012, 08:59:26 AM
Sway brace on drop tank and tubes at rear of tank.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 22, 2012, 06:39:21 PM
RE the ejection seat placards, their location is incorrect.  They should be directly under the canopy IE the pilot. 


You are correct!

Yes, there should be two as well.  Seems rather odd but photos show two.  Can you explain please?


Yes, there are two in the profile; in one is for the ejection seat and another for the canopy.

Here is a close -up of the signs

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6ejectioncopy.jpg)

That "exhaust outlet" looking thing you have directly above the horizontal stabilizer.  Best I can tell it should be higher and further forward; Directly above the main wing tip and in between the engines.

Yes, you are correct again! :)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 22, 2012, 06:40:01 PM
Sway brace on drop tank and tubes at rear of tank.

You are twice correct! :)
Thank you for participating
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 22, 2012, 06:53:21 PM
Hello
Here is an update on the errors discovered.
At this moment, we are half-way towards finding them all.
All errors are possible (thing that not belong there; things that belong there but are not in the right place, or in the right size, etc...

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6erros4.jpg)

Please, keep in mind that it will run until, the 26th of April; lets not end it without discovering all the errors ;)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 23, 2012, 02:17:51 AM
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 23, 2012, 02:21:08 AM
  • Cannon port is incorrectly positioned - should be further back, in front of belly tank
  • Exhaust nozzles look to be pettle type which would be incorrect for Lightning.

Correct! Both times! :)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 23, 2012, 07:22:59 PM
Here is an update on the errors

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6erros7.jpg)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 24, 2012, 03:27:52 AM
Oh, oh, I can see some more...I'll wait a bit though so that others can have a go.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: tc2324 on April 24, 2012, 06:48:55 PM
I`m sure the `splinter` camo has been already mentioned, it should be more curved.

But the tip of the fin is wrong. It should not be painted all black, the rectangle section in the middle, at the very top, should be the same colour as what ever colour the tail at that section is painted in (Hope that made sense??)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 24, 2012, 08:34:33 PM
I`m sure the `splinter` camo has been already mentioned, it should be more curved.
Yes, it was alrready mentioned. :)

But the tip of the fin is wrong. It should not be painted all black, the rectangle section in the middle, at the very top, should be the same colour as what ever colour the tail at that section is painted in (Hope that made sense??)

Yes, it makes sense and you are correct!
Thank you for participating. :)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 24, 2012, 08:46:49 PM
Here is another update.
Please remember, it ends on the 26th of April and still more 17 errors to find... ;)

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF68.jpg)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: Weaver on April 25, 2012, 12:06:27 AM
1. There's an arrestor hook warning stencil below the tailplane - does that count as a separate error from the hook itself?

2. There's another one of these scoops (the ones on the spine) on the bottom of the belly tank, just in front of the ventral fins.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 25, 2012, 01:02:19 AM
1. There's an arrestor hook warning stencil below the tailplane - does that count as a separate error from the hook itself?

The arrestor hook is signaled as an error because it was mentioned (by another member) but was not specified why was a mistake; the lightning has an arrestor hook; so the mistake is: why is this arrestor hook an error (the lightning has such a warning sign- it is not an error).

2. There's another one of these scoops (the ones on the spine) on the bottom of the belly tank, just in front of the ventral fins.
You are correct! :)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: tc2324 on April 25, 2012, 02:02:54 AM
No idea what that black thing is sitting on top of the top `burner` can, just behind the rudder, but it shouldn`t be there.

Also shouldn`t the lines that cover the belly tank be in black rather than white/light grey?
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 25, 2012, 03:09:17 AM
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 25, 2012, 04:17:05 AM
No idea what that black thing is sitting on top of the top `burner` can, just behind the rudder, but it shouldn`t be there.

In the "real" lightning there is something there... ;): I can say that that is one of the errors, but I would like to be identify exactly what the error is.

Also shouldn`t the lines that cover the belly tank be in black rather than white/light grey?
There are a mixture of darker and clear lines on several "real" lightings; this one is also an error, but it not exactly (or at least not exclusively) the color of the lines... :).
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 25, 2012, 04:17:43 AM
  • Small black blade antenna in front of fin shouldn't be there
  • The Arrestor hook is too large and is too far back

You are correct!
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 25, 2012, 04:20:45 AM
Woohoo!!! Finally someone cracks the Arrestor Hook error fully!!!
(http://www.01gifs.com/smileys/danse/1.gif)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 25, 2012, 04:26:54 AM
Here is an update on the errors discovered

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6erros9.jpg)

Eleven more errors to identify
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 25, 2012, 04:28:59 AM
ELEVEN???!!!! :o :-\
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 25, 2012, 04:41:57 AM
Of course, We have to make it challenging, or else it is not interesting... ;)
Some of those final errors are perhaps a bit dificult to spot and perhaps I can mark them on the image and ask why they are mistakes (I will try to upload an even bigger image of it)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 25, 2012, 04:44:53 AM
hold off on marking them just yet, but please do upload a larger image.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: Cliffy B on April 25, 2012, 04:47:45 AM
Eleven more huh?  I'll give it another go later tonight.  I think I see a few.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 25, 2012, 04:50:23 AM
Eleven more huh?  I'll give it another go later tonight.  I think I see a few.

That's the spirit... ;)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II
Post by: JP Vieira on April 25, 2012, 05:02:30 AM
hold off on marking them just yet, but please do upload a larger image.


Here is a larger image

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6erros10.jpg)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II - Large Images- Final errors
Post by: Cliffy B on April 25, 2012, 05:14:40 AM
Clarification please; what does the warning aft of the canopy say?  I can make out "DO NOT CH---" but the panel line mars the last word.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II - Large Images- Final errors
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 25, 2012, 05:17:55 AM
I think it says, "DO NOT CHOP"
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II - Large Images- Final errors
Post by: JP Vieira on April 25, 2012, 06:09:10 PM
Clarification please; what does the warning aft of the canopy say?  I can make out "DO NOT CH---" but the panel line mars the last word.

I think it says, "DO NOT CHOP"

Yes, that it what it says: it is not an error.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II - Large Images- Final errors
Post by: Weaver on April 25, 2012, 07:21:58 PM
There's a stencil low down on the fuselage level with the canopy that says "access leader": shouldn't that be "access ladder"?
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II - Large Images- Final errors
Post by: JP Vieira on April 25, 2012, 08:09:17 PM
There's a stencil low down on the fuselage level with the canopy that says "access leader": shouldn't that be "access ladder"?

Yes, it should.Very good. One less to find out.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II - Large Images- Final errors
Post by: tc2324 on April 26, 2012, 01:57:26 AM
Rear mirror on top of cockpit shoudn`t be there

and

again, no idea what the `Bin` numbers are about, but wouldn`t they be the same. (unless of course this is an Airfix kit and they are numbered parts.. ;D)
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II - Large Images- Final errors
Post by: JP Vieira on April 26, 2012, 06:11:12 AM
Rear mirror on top of cockpit shoudn`t be there

That is not a mirror, it is the IFF antena, and it must be there; sorry no error there.

again, no idea what the `Bin` numbers are about, but wouldn`t they be the same. (unless of course this is an Airfix kit and they are numbered parts.. ;D)
That is not an error either, sorry.
Title: Re: Spot the Errors II - All errors
Post by: JP Vieira on April 28, 2012, 05:42:19 PM
Hello
And here is the final image with all the errors identified
In yellow the errors discovered by you all
In blue those pointed out but not explained
In red those not discovered
Again many thanks to all and if you want this kind of thread can happen again.
I wish also that other members to it because I want to participate also in discovering the errors ;)


(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/JPVieira_2006/LightF6errosfinal.jpg)