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Title: Photobucket woes +++ Now with FIX for Firefox & Chrome! (late Aug 2017)
Post by: kitnut617 on July 02, 2017, 02:35:54 AM
Greg, a question. At the moment you have the forum set so we can directly download photos from our computers to a forum post, are you considering changing it to where we have to use a 3rd party host.

MOD EDIT:
Now with a fix for Firefox and Chrome: LINK! (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=7334.msg130423#msg130423)

Many thanks to Alvis! :icon_beer:
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 02, 2017, 02:47:45 AM
Greg, a question. At the moment you have the forum set so we can directly download photos from our computers to a forum post, are you considering changing it to where we have to use a 3rd party host.

Wasn't planning to - why?
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: kitnut617 on July 02, 2017, 05:56:11 AM
Greg, a question. At the moment you have the forum set so we can directly download photos from our computers to a forum post, are you considering changing it to where we have to use a 3rd party host.

Wasn't planning to - why?

Have you been following what PhotoBucket are doing
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 02, 2017, 06:13:36 AM
I note the Photobucket development but am a little confused by your original question still.  Currently people can upload photos etc (within some size limits) or they can use various external hosting providers.  Maybe I am missing something but I am not sure why I would be asked "are you considering changing it to where we have to use a 3rd party host."?
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: jcf on July 02, 2017, 07:28:30 AM
I believe Robert is referencing the What-If forum policy of 'no attachments', they have the option turned off.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: kitnut617 on July 02, 2017, 08:03:15 AM
Sorry Greg, I'm not being very clear am I.  I hope you keep the forum as it is because I really detest having to use a 3rd party host so I can post photos on the other forums I frequent. Photo Bucket has just changed it's policy so that only the most expensive plan they have (US$399 per year) is the only plan that they will allow any photos to be linked to a forum etc and I'm using PB.  A lot of the members have had their photos disconnected so nothing shows in the forum anymore.  If my photos stop showing on the other forums I won't be jumping over to another photo hosting website, it will be I just won't post photos anymore there. It would mean there's no point going on these forums anymore. This would be the only place I would visit (although not that's a bad thing  ;) )
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 03, 2017, 01:57:30 AM
My plan is to keep the forum as it is...if only because I am lazy. ;)  The only thing I am thinking of is changing hosting providers - please feel free to recommend options via PM to me.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: kitnut617 on July 03, 2017, 04:36:30 AM
I believe Robert is referencing the What-If forum policy of 'no attachments', they have the option turned off.

Not just What-If Jon, Secret Projects Forum, The Airfix Tribute Forum, BritModeler to name a few. Plus if you want to attach a photo on a PM here, you have to go the Photobucket route --- won't be able to anymore.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 03, 2017, 05:07:28 AM
Plus if you want to attach a photo on a PM here, you have to go the Photobucket route --- won't be able to anymore.

Sorry but attaching images (or otherwise) to PMs is simply not a feature the forum software seems to allow.  It is not a choice we have made.

Additionally, remember that there are other options than the PB one for external hosting.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: kitnut617 on July 03, 2017, 06:08:35 AM
Plus if you want to attach a photo on a PM here, you have to go the Photobucket route --- won't be able to anymore.

Sorry but attaching images (or otherwise) to PMs is simply not a feature the forum software seems to allow.  It is not a choice we have made.

Additionally, remember that there are other options than the PB one for external hosting.

No worries Greg, but the external hosting route I'm done with. I'm going to see if I can do it through my ISP, I think I have 'x' amount of storage space with my plan and I'll find out if I can link whatever that I can store there.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: jcf on July 03, 2017, 02:06:58 PM
I believe Robert is referencing the What-If forum policy of 'no attachments', they have the option turned off.

Not just What-If Jon, Secret Projects Forum, The Airfix Tribute Forum, BritModeler to name a few. Plus if you want to attach a photo on a PM here, you have to go the Photobucket route --- won't be able to anymore.

The Secretprojects attachment option is turned on, I used it this morning.

The PB thing is weird, I haven't been affected, my images still show, and if you look at Greg's posts
where he's linked to his PB albums, his are also still showing.

I have a feeling something else is going on to cause the issues folks are having.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: kitnut617 on July 03, 2017, 09:08:25 PM
I believe Robert is referencing the What-If forum policy of 'no attachments', they have the option turned off.

Not just What-If Jon, Secret Projects Forum, The Airfix Tribute Forum, BritModeler to name a few. Plus if you want to attach a photo on a PM here, you have to go the Photobucket route --- won't be able to anymore.

The Secretprojects attachment option is turned on, I used it this morning.

The PB thing is weird, I haven't been affected, my images still show, and if you look at Greg's posts
where he's linked to his PB albums, his are also still showing.

I have a feeling something else is going on to cause the issues folks are having.

Hmm, yes, mine are still showing too.  But there's a lot of reports from the PC World that it is happening to a lot of people. 

There was a pop-up a couple of days ago which at first I was ignoring, then I answered the question which was 'what do you use PB for' and there was a couple of pre-answers which you could check-off. I answered 3rd party.  I wonder if that is something to do with it --  I also have all my photo albums locked as private, could that be why I can still see my links on the forums.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: Old Wombat on July 03, 2017, 10:22:23 PM
I haven't checked in the last few hours but mine were all showing.

I'm on the minimum paid storage increment, so I'm wondering if being a paying user is anything to do with it.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: ChernayaAkula on July 04, 2017, 02:42:09 AM
<...> I'm wondering if being a paying user is anything to do with it.

I'm not quite sure, as my pics are still showing (AFAIK) and I'm still a non-paying user. Then again, my PB account only has about 200MBs worth of pics in it, meaning I probably don't generate a whole lot of traffic (so much for "excessive hot-linking", whatever that means). I've signed up there in mid-2006, so almost 11 years ago. I think PB changed owners in the meantime, so maybe that has something to do with it? Something similar has happened to me with Amazon's Lovefilm. Signed up for a DVD-by-mail-scheme (no streaming in this neck of the woods, line's too slow) for a flat fee with two films with me at any given time. They've since changed to far less favourable conditions, but they still have to honour these old contracts.

Test pic - showing a test scheme, no less  ;D
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/Jabog32-lo-viz_zpsf0513d15.png)
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: taiidantomcat on July 05, 2017, 01:37:48 PM
I'm seeing the "no 3rd party hosting" pics on forums all over  :-\
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on July 06, 2017, 07:41:39 AM
I'm seeing the "no 3rd party hosting" pics on forums all over  :-\
same here
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: ChernayaAkula on July 07, 2017, 11:55:21 PM
<...> as my pics are still showing <...>

Yeah, so much for that.... :icon_twisted: Looks like my links are busted now as well.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: kitnut617 on July 08, 2017, 05:55:54 AM
<...> as my pics are still showing <...>

Yeah, so much for that.... :icon_twisted: Looks like my links are busted now as well.

Mine too now, I received an email this morning saying my links have been disconnected but if I cough up the ransom everything will be fine
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: Brian da Basher on July 10, 2017, 05:20:54 AM
Just in case anyone needed a thumbnail of all this:

No 3rd party hosting from free accounts.

3rd party hosting will be disabled after December 31, 2018 for paid Plus accounts below the extortionate $400/year level:

TOS linky (http://photobucket.com/terms)

Relevant bit:

"ANY PAYING MEMBER WHOSE PLUS ACCOUNT WAS IN GOOD STANDING AS OF JUNE 1, 2017, SHALL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE ALL THE PHOTOBUCKET SERVICES THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO HIM/HER ON SUCH DATE, INCLUDING IMAGE LINKING AND 3RD PARTY IMAGE HOSTING, UNTIL DECEMBER 31, 2018 AS LONG THEY MAINTAIN THEIR CURRENT PLUS ACCOUNT SUBSCRIPTION OR A HIGHER LEVEL PLUS ACCOUNT SUBSCRIPTION DURING SUCH PERIOD OF TIME."

I just renewed at the end of May. Had I known this was coming, I wouldn't have.

I hope this helps and apologies if the above is now common knowledge.

Brian da Basher



Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: kitnut617 on July 10, 2017, 05:36:51 AM
You know, it wouldn't surprise me if they end up doing a runner ----

But for everyones info, I deleted all my albums, then deleted the account with them.  I think I have some photos here which I had linked to PB, sorry if they are now deleted.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: ChernayaAkula on July 10, 2017, 11:03:47 AM
Whoa! They're a quite an optimistic bunch, aren't they? Expecting to still have members one and a half years from now! I suppose they'll be lucky if they survive this year. 

<...> I received an email this morning saying my links have been disconnected but if I cough up the ransom everything will be fine

They didn't even bother sending me an e-mail. Guess they think I don't have any moneyz they could extort.  ;D
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on July 10, 2017, 04:21:49 PM
A damned shame that there is no way to throat punch PB for being a giant douche-nozzle
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: The Big Gimper on July 11, 2017, 12:52:44 AM
@Brian: Thank you for taking the time to summarize the PB extortion letter.

@Jeff: To add to your throat punch, a 6 yard shot to their bleep-bleep via a soccer ball
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 11, 2017, 02:56:54 AM
Folks,

I have split off the discussion around the recent PhotoBucket changes to its own thread.

Kind regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: Modelling_Mushi on July 12, 2017, 07:25:52 PM
Hows Imigur working with all this? Im not seeing too many problems with that. Yet.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 24, 2017, 11:20:55 AM
How are people going with all of this?  What solutions have you found?
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: jcf on August 03, 2017, 12:42:13 AM
I went ahead and got a SmugMug account, as the $ is worth it for security, stability and 3rd-party hosting.
Plus it can be used for secure file sharing and business, if so desired. The site banners live in my account so
we shouldn't have any more problems there.

BTW folks Imgur also has a no third-party hosting policy explicitly stated in their Terms of Service,
for the moment they don't seem to be actively enforcing it for general folks, business use is a no-no,
however in light of PB's action, this may not last.

Imageshack is another hosting service that some folk recommend.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: kitnut617 on August 03, 2017, 02:33:13 AM
How are people going with all of this?  What solutions have you found?

For myself I'm going to see what my ISP can offer. It's local which if I'm going to pay for something, I prefer to pay them.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: dogsbody on August 05, 2017, 01:18:57 AM
Regarding all the PB troubles, I've been going back through my postings on other forums I visit and replacing my PB pictures with ones that I have put on Flickr. I would do the same here but there doesn't seem to be any " Edit " function. Am I just missing something obvious again?


Chris
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: dogsbody on August 05, 2017, 01:26:17 AM
Regarding all the PB troubles, I've been going back through my postings on other forums I visit and replacing my PB pictures with ones that I have put on Flickr. I would do the same here but there doesn't seem to be any " Edit " function. Am I just missing something obvious again?


Chris


Never mind! I was missing something obvious, but have figured it out now. Getting old and slow really blows!


Chris
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: Frank3k on August 05, 2017, 07:00:51 AM
BTW folks Imgur also has a no third-party hosting policy explicitly stated in their Terms of Service,
for the moment they don't seem to be actively enforcing it for general folks, business use is a no-no,
however in light of PB's action, this may not last.

Yet... most of reddit is imgur posts. They even include handy links, including bbcode to insert images into bulletin board threads. They may mean using imgur to host files for a web site (vs. a social site like this)
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: FAAMAN on August 05, 2017, 07:18:18 AM
I just spent a wonderful 27 days of "spare" time repairing all my forum picture posts after PhotoRansom broke my links.
I've re-uploaded everything to Flickr and the edited EVERY post I can find with Flickr links.
I've completely ditched PhotoRansom, they could have actually informed it's users of what they were intending and give us a choice :icon_vader:
Regards all
Neil 8) 8)
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on August 31, 2017, 02:38:30 PM
This was posted on ARC by "11Bee", and it appears to work for now.

Free Photobucket fix that works for old posts in Firefox and Google Chrome...


 
Got this in an email from 72ndAircraft, it worked for all my old posts here and on Britmodeller:

Some direct links to get extensions for Firefox and Chrome browsers to delete the PB ransom demand and restore the original image:

Firefox extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/photobucket-embedded-fix/?src=search

Chrome extensionhttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-embed-fix/naolkcpnnlofnnghnmfegnfnflicjjgj?hl=en

This is a painless exercise, it simply adds an extension to the browser and doesn't alter anything in your account or computer registry. Thanks to rubenandres77 on the RevellAtions forum for the heads up to this fix.

Now it may be a copy/paste to your addy bar if the links don't work direct.
Hope this helps.


It's a simple click and so far appears to work. Time to right click/save what you can gents.

Alvis 3.1
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on August 31, 2017, 02:39:53 PM
In case the links weren't working in the previous post:
Firefox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/photobucket-embedded-fix/?src=search

Chrome:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-embed-fix/naolkcpnnlofnnghnmfegnfnflicjjgj?hl=en
Title: Re: Photobucket woes +++ Now with FIX for Firefox & Chrome! (late Aug 2017)
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 02, 2017, 04:00:33 AM
Anything for Safari?
Title: Re: Photobucket woes +++ Now with FIX for Firefox & Chrome! (late Aug 2017)
Post by: Tophe on September 20, 2017, 12:41:01 PM
Photobucket is working for me perfectly now. Yesterday I posted a picture about my new (free) book:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/BookP51_2017_En_zpskepj9hcd.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Tophe2712/media/BookP51_2017_En_zpskepj9hcd.jpg.html)
(adress of this Photobucket's picture: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/BookP51_2017_En_zpskepj9hcd.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/BookP51_2017_En_zpskepj9hcd.jpg) )
The story of my Photobucket experience is:
1/ I was a free user like almost all of us, I use Internet Explorer
2/ Uploading was so low and without quick update of the Library to get the link, I tried to subscribe, cheap (about $2/month); it was alas not accelerated, then I found a way to get the link faster: not going to the Library but clicking on the uploading thumbnail of the uploaded picture.
3/ Then nothing was working anymore, for me like for all of us.
4/ Now (and for a few weeks) it is working again, perfectly. And I still pay just $2/month, not huge amount.
I don't know if that works the same for a new subscriber now.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes
Post by: Brian da Basher on September 21, 2017, 05:46:16 AM

3rd party hosting will be disabled after December 31, 2018 for paid Plus accounts below the extortionate $400/year level:

TOS linky ([url]http://photobucket.com/terms[/url])

Relevant bit:

"ANY PAYING MEMBER WHOSE PLUS ACCOUNT WAS IN GOOD STANDING AS OF JUNE 1, 2017, SHALL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE ALL THE PHOTOBUCKET SERVICES THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO HIM/HER ON SUCH DATE, INCLUDING IMAGE LINKING AND 3RD PARTY IMAGE HOSTING, UNTIL DECEMBER 31, 2018 AS LONG THEY MAINTAIN THEIR CURRENT PLUS ACCOUNT SUBSCRIPTION OR A HIGHER LEVEL PLUS ACCOUNT SUBSCRIPTION DURING SUCH PERIOD OF TIME."



Tophe, I wonder if Photobucket made a mistake and later realized you were a paying member so they had to let you continue to link until Dec. 31, 2018 and then restored the capability?

I'm happy to see it's working again for you and I hope this was helpful.

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Photobucket woes +++ Now with FIX for Firefox & Chrome! (late Aug 2017)
Post by: Tophe on September 21, 2017, 12:03:58 PM
Thanks for this explanation, meaning all will disappear in a little more than one year. This is sad, and incredible: why are they rejecting customers? Well, maybe this is marketing, preferring to sell to 10 customers $400 than to 1000 customers $2...
Title: Re: Photobucket woes +++ Now with FIX for Firefox & Chrome! (late Aug 2017)
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 22, 2017, 01:29:47 AM
Well, maybe this is marketing, preferring to sell to 10 customers $400 than to 1000 customers $2...

Well, the maths works out....

Not saying that I like their decision though.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes +++ Now with FIX for Firefox & Chrome! (late Aug 2017)
Post by: Old Wombat on September 27, 2017, 06:36:53 PM
OK, as a paying member of PhotoBucket I've just discovered that I can't renew my old plan, so I only have a few days to find another site & start changing my links.

Luckily all of the important images are saved on my PC, so the loss of P'Bucket is no big deal, except that I've got to go through everything & swap out all the images of mine I can find.

I'm trialing Jon's suggested site, SmugMug. So far it seems like the best option, as I don't mind paying a reasonable amount for decent service.
Title: Re: Photobucket woes +++ Now with FIX for Firefox & Chrome! (late Aug 2017)
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 25, 2018, 07:59:01 AM
So, I just got this neat email from Photobucket:

Quote
Changes are coming at Photobucket and your feedback is important.

We are conducting a survey of our valued users and have chosen Priority Metrics Group (PMG) to administer the process as an objective third-party. PMG is a well-respected industry leader in the consumer survey space.

Your opinion is critical to driving change in our service offerings and your participation in this survey will help us serve you better. In the next few days you will be receiving a survey from PMG by e-mail. Please take a few moments to complete and return our simple survey.

Thank you for your time!
The Photobucket Team

I sure hope they'll reap the feedback they deserve!  C:-)
Title: Re: Photobucket woes +++ Now with FIX for Firefox & Chrome! (late Aug 2017)
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 25, 2018, 10:13:38 AM
My PB account is set to expire in May. The last three months they've sent me spam giving me the opportunity to pay twice what I was before. How generous. No thank you, I've made other (more cost effective) arrangements. They hosed me so badly by saying they were cancelling my account when I still had six months left and then making me fight to keep what I'd already paid for that I wouldn't even use them if they were free.

I don't think there's enough cuss words for me to respond to a survey with true accuracy.

Brian da Basher