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LAV-150 Turret-TOW - FINISHED-ish
« on: July 17, 2020, 09:04:10 PM »
OK, so I'm building a TOW armed LAV-150, where's the whif in that? ::)

Saudi TOW-armed LAV-150:

(From here: https://old.weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/CC01%20-%20Commando.html)

Well, how about a turret-mounted TOW system for the LAV-150? ???

Using this product from Legend Productions;

(Courtesy of BNA Model World; https://www.bnamodelworld.com)

And a HobbyBoss LAV-150 which lost it's 90mm Cockerill turret to this:


I've been working on this, on-&-off, for about 6 months but it's finally reached that point where it's all coming together. Inside has been given its base coat of Puke Green (a.k.a. A.MIG-082 US APC Interior Green) & some internal detail painting has begun. Once I've got the interior sorted I'll chuck up some photo's before I close her up & start finalising the exterior.

Hopefully soon! ;)
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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2020, 01:46:26 AM »
Why, yes, I am interested in following this. Sounds like an interesting conversion.

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2020, 03:14:54 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2020, 09:24:46 AM »
Thanks for the interest, gents! :icon_alabanza:

Pic's coming soon ... ish. ;)
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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2020, 02:39:43 AM »
Ohhh, I just got a V150, I want to put the M163 turret on it...I think perhaps Saudi Arabia fielded them (or tested at one point). Love the idea of a TOW launcher!

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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2020, 09:13:35 AM »
Thanks, Gingie! :smiley:


Finalising the interior today/tonight. Pic's should be up tomorrow. ;)
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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2020, 02:10:18 AM »
Pic's should be up tomorrow. ;)

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2020, 08:27:08 AM »




This is very cool!

Looking forward to your LAV-150 TOW.

I have the Legend TOW set as well. I am going to convert an Academy M1151 to an M1167. Watching your LAV build to see how well the Legend set goes together.

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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2020, 11:48:43 AM »
Thanks, Ramba! :smiley:

Watching your LAV build to see how well the Legend set goes together.

So far, pretty well. A fair number of tiny connection points, though, & the instructions leave a bit more than reasonable to be desired.

The instructions lack detail on where parts attach to each other & it doesn't have decals or colour plates for painting , so a good set of reference photo's is recommended.

There are NO instructions relating to the interior boxes (battery &, I think, CPU) nor an odd little piece that I think is some kind in cover removal device & I've found next to nothing about them on line, so much of that, on mine, is guess work.

I, also, drilled out the front end of the launch tube because it needed it.


A set of decals would be really nice to have; there are quite a lot of markings on the tubes, beyond just the yellow & red-brown bands, &, with the placards & plates on the launcher, there are enough to make a decal set more than a mere luxury.


Oh, be careful when removing parts from the casting blocks! Legend have generously connected most parts to the blocks by the connecting pins & you'll have to carve them out of the joins to the casting blocks! :-\
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2020, 11:50:51 AM »
Note to All:

The first reveal is going to be a bit delayed due to the effects of a 12 hour power outage on Sunday but, I hope, not too much. :o
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2020, 07:57:04 PM »
Wombat, Thanks for the tips, greatly appreciated. I will certainly keep watch on your build progress for notes when I start my build. I am not too concerned about the interior that much as the doors will be closed on my M1167 so you won't see much of the interior anyway. As long as the exterior looks decent enough I am fine with that. Thanks again for the tips.

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2020, 02:06:48 AM »
The first reveal is going to be a bit delayed due to the effects of a 12 hour power outage on Sunday but, I hope, not too much. :o

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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2020, 09:21:41 AM »
Due to some ... ah ... over-enthusiastic? ... weathering of the interior, I've had to cover various bits in tape & liquid mask & respray some Interior Green over the insides. :-[

Once that dries & I get the gunk off I'll take some photo's & get them up. ;)
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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2020, 09:31:21 AM »
OK, here we are as she is at this point in time;













Still needs a few touch-ups after the fix-up of my stuff-up but, considering very little of it will be very visible, it should be OK. I am, personally, a little disappointed because she looked really good until I let my weathering fetish take hold. :-\

The observant amongst you, & anyone who's built this kit, will notice that I've let my over-enthusiasm get me in another pickle - I fixed the wheels on & the top of the hull is best fitted by sliding it on from the front, now the wheels get in the way. Having build a few of these by now you'd think I'd know better! :o

A-anyway, once I've finished the touch-ups & hit the insides with some Dullcote, it'll be time to button her up & do the outside ... Hopefully I don't make a hash of that! ::)
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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2020, 11:05:03 AM »
The interior looks great! If I remember from my half built model, you can carefully snap the hull top on. The interior Details in this kit look under scale, especially the driver’s seat.
I noticed that you added the tow cable to the front winch before adding the top... unlike someone I know...

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2020, 09:10:13 PM »
The interior is coming out nicely!

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2020, 10:31:16 PM »
Thank you, gentlemen! Greatly appreciated! :icon_alabanza:

If I remember from my half built model, you can carefully snap the hull top on.
The interior Details in this kit look under scale, especially the driver’s seat.
I noticed that you added the tow cable to the front winch before adding the top... unlike someone I know...

Yeah, you can, but it's a right pain compared to sliding it on. :icon_crap:
Yup, my guess is about 1/48 for the interior, but I figure that's an expected outcome of being unable to mould styrene to light armour scale thickness without losing all structural integrity.. ::)
Yes, well, we all learn from our mistakes. :-[
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2020, 10:54:28 PM »
Cool!  8)

When I read the thread title I thought you were going for an American analogue to the BRDM-2-based tank hunters with an elevatable mutli-round mount.
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2020, 11:34:16 PM »
Cool!  8)

When I read the thread title I thought you were going for an American analogue to the BRDM-2-based tank hunters with an elevatable mutli-round mount.

Thanks, Moritz! :smiley:

Nah, even cheaper. ;D
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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2020, 11:36:32 PM »
Camo will probably be MERDC-esque & external weathering will be appropriate to location & back story, both of which I'm trying to figure out.

I have what could be considered a "Tier 2" vehicle mounting an older ATGM (now with bunker-busting warheads available), a European-featured crew wearing either desert or temperate Bundeswehr combat uniforms, carrying H&K weapons (UMP-45's & 416's). Decisions! Decisions! :-\

Any suggestions? ???


For those who don't know:

Bundeswehr Desert pattern:


Bundeswehr Temperate (Summer?) pattern


(I'll be trialing some camo decals I have.)

UMP-45


H&K416
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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2020, 05:29:47 PM »
Okey-Dokey, next update! :))

Camo scheme is done! I've decided on Ukraine (Do you know how hard it is not to write or say "The" in front of that? ???) as the user.

Basic premise being that renewed Russian aggression in the Donetsk & Kherson regions, in an attempt to further remove Ukraine from the increasingly militarised Crimea by creating a buffer zone of occupied states & establish better electrical & water supplies to the increasing number of military personnel in the region, forces NATO to intervene; not directly but, rather, by supplying Ukraine with weapons & munitions in a MAP style arrangement. Much of the equipment is refurbished older hardware, especially AFV's, with an effective service life extension.

Anyway, here are the photo's:












Still a few touch-ups, tweaks & weathering to go (exclusive of adding the turret & TOW).

I kinda like it, so far. ;)


Pursuant to the back story the paints used on the roughly Ukrainian-style camo are: Tamiya Desert Yellow XF-59, Tamiya NATO Green XF-67, Tamiya NATO Brown XF-68 & Tamiya NATO Black XF-69


Thanks for stopping by! :smiley:
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2020, 07:43:30 PM »
Cool camo scheme! Came out great!

The UMP-45 is a good choice. Trumpeter has a set. I need to get them myself.

Live Resin makes the HK416 with suppressor. I have them and they are really nice. They only come with the magazines. You need to buy the scopes and other accessories separately though.


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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2020, 08:45:19 PM »
Looking good.  The camo is really well done.

We used similar vehicles with 7.62 pintle mounts as the main armament at a Navy secure storage site, guarded by Marines.  They were a blast to tear around base in during our drills and alerts.

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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2020, 08:46:47 PM »
The UMP-45 is a good choice. Trumpeter has a set. I need to get them myself.

Live Resin makes the HK416 with suppressor. I have them and they are really nice. They only come with the magazines. You need to buy the scopes and other accessories separately though.

Good call on both, Ramba! :smiley:

I'm using the Trumpeter UMP-45's (optical sights on both + 1 x fore-grip) & the 416's I'm using are LiveResin carbines & standard rifles (set LRE-35128), 2 x carbines & 1 x long rifle (carbines with optics & rifle with a scope, & a fore-grip on one of the carbines ... & I may put a bi-pod on the rifle).

And many thanks for the compliments! :icon_alabanza:
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2020, 08:47:49 PM »
Thanks, LJ! Greatly appreciated! :icon_alabanza:
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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2020, 09:18:42 PM »
Camo looks great!  :smiley: Very tidy.

EDIT: Also thanks for the colour call-outs. Awlays helpful when deciding on what to paint own what-ifs.
It's amazing how well the Desert Yellow works on the NATO camouflage. Might be an idea for a NATO OPFOR scheme with a temporarily added "washable" (just blast it off with a pressure washer after the exeecise) sand colour to visually separate red from blue forces without resorting to vismods.

<...> I've decided on Ukraine (Do you know how hard it is not to write or say "The" in front of that? ???) <...>

Learned something today.  :smiley:
In Germany, it's still mostly referred to as the Ukraine (die Ukraine - die as in the, not as in perish!) and it feels odd to see or hear it used without "the".
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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2020, 10:13:28 PM »
Thanks, Moritz! :icon_alabanza:

After 50+ years of "The Ukraine" dropping the "The" isn't easy & I still use it more often than not - but I am trying (some would say "Very!"). ;)

Ukrainian "flag" markings painted on last night. Going to focus a bit on the weapons tonight; to get ready to put the turret sub-assemblies together. :smiley:
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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2020, 01:07:37 AM »
The colors look awesome! I love the overspray on the tires - I don't kn ow if that was intentional, but I'd keep it.

"The Ukraine" was in part a way for the Russians to belittle Ukraine - at least that's how a Ukrainian friend explained it. He would correct anyone who added "the". I wonder if Ukrainians have a low viz version of their national flag.

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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2020, 01:39:26 AM »
Thanks, Frank! :icon_alabanza:

The sprayed tyres are very intentional because it (imperfectly) breaks up the shape of the tyres & wheel hubs, so there is less unnaturally circular symmetry.

Having looked at quite a lot of images of Ukrainian vehicles over the last year or so (I have another Ukrainian build currently stalled - although I may pull in out for the next "Finish-It" build) not that I have seen, not on vehicles, anyway. I think their re-born independent national identity & ongoing conflicts with their former oppressor make it unlikely they will for the foreseeable future, either. However, they're not quite as bright as mine, but I expect weathering & fading effects to tone mine down a bit ... at least ... I hope!
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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2020, 03:03:25 AM »
Is one able to get decals for modern Ukrainian markings:



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« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2020, 03:36:56 AM »
I thought it was a Gaz Tigr M but that would be bizarre...  it's a Ukrainian KrAZ Spartan which is a licensed-built Canadian vehicle.

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« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2020, 07:51:15 AM »
Coming along swimmingly

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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2020, 10:22:46 AM »
Sorry, Greg, just a more viewable size.






I had noticed that the Small Coat of Arms was becoming more common on their vehicles as a stand-alone symbol but I've not seen the pink cross before.

Of course, a lot seems to be changing since they finally decided to move towards NATO membership (which I'd missed, so my backstory doesn't make quite as much sense). :-\

Still, most of the militias still seem to be using the flag, so I'll make it a reserve militia unit of some ilk. ::)
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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2020, 03:27:59 AM »
since they finally decided to move towards NATO membership (which I'd missed, so my backstory doesn't make quite as much sense). :-\


Err, they have only been granted 'Enhanced Opportunities Partner' status which is the same as Australia, Finland, Georgia, Jordan, and Sweden.  This should not be confused with the prospect of NATO membership.  I think your basic backstory still prevails.
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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2020, 12:55:28 AM »
Cool! Thanks for that, Greg! :smiley:

Weirdly, that makes a diorama I'm (s-l-o-w-l-y) working on almost make sense, too, in a strange whiffy way. :D


Anyway, the LAV, et al., has received a gloss coat in preparation for washing & weathering type stuff.
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« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2020, 08:56:18 PM »
Well, I'm at the finishing touches on the vehicle but the figures & base are a bit behind.

So, once I've got the LAV finished, I'll post pic's of that & leave the rest until I have time to finish them.

(I have a Cupboard of Doom build that has gotten itself moving, another Ukrainian AFV which will have almost real markings but a very whif setting - eventually.)
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« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2020, 10:46:42 AM »
Photo's taken! :D

I'll upload them tonight, after I get home from work, when SWMBO isn't using my study computer for her work purposes. ::)
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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2020, 11:27:31 PM »
Photo's as promised ... Lots of them, in fact ... Maybe too many? ???

Anyway, here they are (broken into site-suitable bites):











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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2020, 11:28:04 PM »










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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2020, 11:29:53 PM »









Looking at it now, I think I need to do a bit of dry brushing on the insides of the hatches to get some dimensionality but over all ... Not too shabby. :smiley:

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2020, 01:05:21 AM »
It came out great! Having the hatches open is a great idea - you can see the spare TOW and get a feel for the interior. The Punisher decal is good, too/

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« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2020, 01:08:14 AM »
Very cool! Came out great! I like the TOW turret.

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« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2020, 02:07:16 AM »
That's well done all-around.  Looking forward to seeing it in the diorama setting at some point.


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« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2020, 02:51:29 AM »
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« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2020, 04:57:01 AM »
...Having the hatches open is a great idea ...

Yep, excellent call on the hatches. Looking good  :smiley:
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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2020, 07:37:54 AM »
Guy, that came out excellent. It all just works, it is practical.

Great Job

Offline Old Wombat

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2020, 08:21:32 AM »
Thank you, gentlemen! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:

Despite a few hiccups along the way, this build ran smoothly & the result is very close to what I'd imagined.
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Offline kpnuts

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW - FINISHED-ish
« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2020, 06:12:53 PM »
That's looking awesome.

Offline Old Wombat

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW - FINISHED-ish
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2020, 10:21:42 PM »
Thanks, mate! Highly appreciated! :icon_alabanza:
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Offline kpnuts

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW - FINISHED-ish
« Reply #51 on: August 17, 2020, 04:00:20 AM »
And sincerely ment mate.

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW
« Reply #52 on: September 11, 2022, 01:31:05 AM »
Basic premise being that renewed Russian aggression ... forces NATO to intervene; not directly but, rather, by supplying Ukraine with weapons & munitions in a MAP style arrangement. Much of the equipment is refurbished older hardware, especially AFV's, with an effective service life extension.


Quite prescient...
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Offline Old Wombat

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW - FINISHED-ish
« Reply #53 on: September 11, 2022, 02:00:30 AM »
That's what I thought when I re-read it whilst looking for images for the post in the other thread.
"This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our engine sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and, ah, explode."

Offline Kerick

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW - FINISHED-ish
« Reply #54 on: September 11, 2022, 06:47:40 AM »
Needs an update with some NAFO Fellas stickers on the sides.

Offline Dr. YoKai

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW - FINISHED-ish
« Reply #55 on: September 14, 2022, 03:15:49 AM »
 This came out great! I like the open hatches, and like Frank said, being able to see the reloads is great.

Offline Old Wombat

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW - FINISHED-ish
« Reply #56 on: September 14, 2022, 02:45:21 PM »
Needs an update with some NAFO Fellas stickers on the sides.

I'm fine with her how she is. ;)

This came out great! I like the open hatches, and like Frank said, being able to see the reloads is great.

Thanks, Doc! :smiley:
"This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our engine sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and, ah, explode."

Offline Story

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Re: LAV-150 Turret-TOW - FINISHED-ish
« Reply #57 on: September 15, 2022, 07:20:36 PM »
I am SO stealing that bath towel backdrop idear.