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Offline perttime

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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2021, 05:51:12 PM »
Sisu GTP 4 X 4 with "highly modular structure, which enables numerous variants for different operational uses, all using the same backbone structure."
https://sisuauto.com/en/gtp-4x4/



The Finnish Defense Forces have ordered 6 vehicles for testing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisu_GTP


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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2021, 03:55:38 AM »
I finally stumbled across a pic of the Fox MILAN.

As it turns out, the main turret of the prototype vehicle appears to not be just a modified original turret (I was wondering why, according to the wording used by most online articles mentioning this variant, the RARDEN cannon was replaced with a 7.62mm chaingun before spotting this picture) but a new one altogether.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2021, 06:02:06 AM by dy031101 »
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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2021, 09:23:37 AM »
I note that a few sources that describe this as an MCT (MILAN Compact Turret) which yours certainly isn't.

Somebody on arrse.co.uk said that the two Fox prototype conversions each had a different turret type ... though neither was based on the original Fox turret. So maybe there was the one in your photo and another that had the MCT? Dunno.
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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2021, 11:18:54 AM »
I note that a few sources that describe this as an MCT (MILAN Compact Turret) which yours certainly isn't.

I think the MCT refers to the twin MILAN launcher, which I also think is (almost or outright) the same as used by the FV120 Spartan MCT, on the main turret roof.

Incidentally, I know Wikipedia probably shouldn't be considered as authoritative, but its description of the FV120 Spartan MCT as having a two-man turret is kinda weird- that superstructure the MILAN launcher is mounted on doesn't look trainable to me.
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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2021, 03:54:04 AM »
Some folks might find this interesting as another option for a T-34-85 turret lying around in a spares box.



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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2021, 11:02:03 AM »
Sisu GTP 4 X 4 with "highly modular structure, which enables numerous variants for different operational uses, all using the same backbone structure."
https://sisuauto.com/en/gtp-4x4/



The Finnish Defense Forces have ordered 6 vehicles for testing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisu_GTP

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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #56 on: September 21, 2021, 02:29:43 AM »
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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2021, 04:34:32 AM »
And we were concerned about putting a GPMG on a G-Wagon!

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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #58 on: September 21, 2021, 05:18:43 AM »
And we were concerned about putting a GPMG on a G-Wagon!

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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #59 on: October 02, 2021, 04:53:23 AM »
"Action Mobile Camper" sounds worthy of the 12" G.I. Joe.
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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2021, 10:35:50 PM »
And we were concerned about putting a GPMG on a G-Wagon!

It's a LandCruiser &, therefore, unbreakable! ;)
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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2021, 01:13:33 PM »
Ratel in Yemen with what looks like a homebrewed ZPU-2 turret

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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2021, 02:04:57 PM »
...... what looks like a homebrewed ZPU-2 turret

BAU-23X2 weapon station from KMDB of Ukraine.  Uses similar guns to those of the ZU-23.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2021, 02:28:52 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #63 on: December 28, 2021, 12:58:38 AM »
Seen on Twitter.

"France has done a superb job with its Jaguar 6x6 EBRC. Its 40x220 mm CTAS cannon and twin MMP anti-tank missiles give it a double whammy of reconnaissance strike lethality."

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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #64 on: December 28, 2021, 03:38:58 AM »
That looks like the armor equivalent of a fanboy Star Trek ship - eight nacelles, 20 photon torpedoes, 100 laser cannons...

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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2021, 09:13:30 PM »
That looks like the armor equivalent of a fanboy Star Trek ship - eight nacelles, 20 photon torpedoes, 100 laser cannons...

It's also a spiritual violation of the intent of reconnaissance - you're not supposed to get decisively engaged, if discovered just shoot 'em up and run like hell.

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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #66 on: December 29, 2021, 12:31:34 AM »

It's also a spiritual violation of the intent of reconnaissance - you're not supposed to get decisively engaged, if discovered just shoot 'em up and run like hell.

According to Wikipedia, the French want this to be an "Armored Reconnaissance and Combat Vehicle"... so basically a Jack of all trades, master of none. Or to quote Futurama  “She's built like a steakhouse, but she handles like a bistro”

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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #67 on: December 29, 2021, 12:49:06 AM »
... like trying to sneak around in a CHAR B.  :-\

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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #68 on: December 30, 2021, 01:38:18 AM »

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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #69 on: December 30, 2021, 02:12:33 AM »
That needs to be built. :smiley:
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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #70 on: December 30, 2021, 05:36:38 AM »
That needs to be built. :smiley:

Not just dualie rear axles but trilies!

M42 Duster turret setup as a donor base, a plastic hemisphere looted from somewhere else?
Stabilizers from some 1/24th trailer kit?
ITALERI BM-13 (Zil-151) chassis (  4 more wheels) as a stand-in for a pre-war Studebaker?

PS - went googling. Frank needs to build this, if only for the LA connection
https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/mobile-pill-box-fortress/

Meanwhile, 115mm main gun cobbled onto a 6X somewhere in Syria.
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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #71 on: December 30, 2021, 11:09:53 AM »
I think that mobile pill box was a one shot (or two shot) deal, with the recoil probably tearing the pill box off its rails. If that didn't stop it, the fumes inside the vent-less pillbox would surely kill the crew.

I also doubt the "65 miles an hour" speed, unless part of that was a 60 MPH tailwind.

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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #72 on: December 30, 2021, 03:29:59 PM »
There were all sorts of exaggerated performance technology demonstrators before the war, offered by questionable companies (*coff coff* Brewster Aeronautics *coff coff*).

In this case, the back story practically writes itself - the prototype gets driven around LA to gather press attention and investors.

As soon as word of Pearl Harbor reaches LA, the company valiantly offers it's services to protect the city. During the night of 24-25 February 1942, the crew goes into action but the contraption disassembles itself. The scrappers show up two days later.

No one ever speaks of it again.


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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #73 on: December 31, 2021, 01:40:56 AM »
questionable companies (*coff coff* Brewster Aeronautics *coff coff*).

Off topic a bit but when it comes to Brewster don't forget that they did operate quite successfully as a component manufacturer for 10+yrs.  They got out of their depth when they hired Alfred and Ignacio Miranda and then couldn't really meet demands during the war as a full aircraft producer (though they did produce over 2000 aircraft) due to management not being up to the job.  If they had stayed a component producer they would probably have done well.
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Re: 6x6 or less
« Reply #74 on: December 31, 2021, 02:21:07 AM »
  Alfred and Ignacio Miranda 

Exactly the two (eg American Armament Corporation (AAC) of New York) I was thinking would be behind something like this, although you can't blame them guys for the Brewster workers shagging in the fuselages when they were supposed to be assembling things.