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OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« on: June 13, 2017, 10:27:54 PM »
Camthalion's excellent T-14 thread reminded me of a project abandoned around 2003, based on the Soviet prototypes placing the turret crew deep in the hull

Additional readings here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_775 and http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/11/03/object-777-soviet-heavy-tank/

I think I scored a pair of DML T80 kits on sale, and started splicing them together based on what was available Open Source back then. I remember the endstate was supposed to look like one of those factory-straight-to-battlefield 1945 E50s.

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1) Anyone else have massive troubles remembering what the hell they were thinking 15 years ago?

2) Anyone know where I put all those little subcomponents I built? Last I saw them, they were in a box.
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Re: Object XXX late 20th century Soviet
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2017, 10:34:51 PM »
Reminds me of this tank:

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I am giving up listing them. They all end up on the shelf of procrastination anyways.

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Re: Object XXX late 20th century Soviet low-profile MBT (1:35th scale)
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2017, 10:39:31 PM »
Tron tank in 35th scale is certainly one subject that has been ignored. 
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Re: Object XXX late 20th century Soviet low-profile MBT (1:35th scale)
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2017, 10:42:55 PM »
Heh. True that.

If Orr Kelly (designer of the M1 Abrams) got his inspiration from American tankers telling him they wanted a King Tiger that moved fast, gotta wonder what inspired Soviet tank designers (pirated copies of TRON?).

If I was inspired, I could echo the dystopian mindset of that (Russian) STALKER video game.



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Re: Object XXX late 20th century Soviet low-profile MBT (1:35th scale)
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2017, 10:44:10 PM »
Tron tank in 35th scale is certainly one subject that has been ignored.

Has anyone tackled the "laser" tanks from Hammer's Slammers?

Or those variants mentioned in the Texas-Israeli War of 1999?

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Re: Object XXX late 20th century Soviet low-profile MBT (1:35th scale)
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2017, 11:23:56 PM »
Certainly NOT a Slammers' tank - but absolutely inspired by them & using a "powergun" type plasma weapon.








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Re: Object XXX late 20th century Soviet low-profile MBT (1:35th scale)
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2017, 06:20:58 AM »
I'd sure hate to come across one of these in a bad mood!

Love your paintwork, especially on the skirts (hey-yooo!).

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Re: Object XXX late 20th century Soviet low-profile MBT (1:35th scale)
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2017, 02:04:44 PM »
Tron tank is available as a paper model, can't remember where, I'll find it later and post a link
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« Last Edit: June 17, 2017, 02:01:48 AM by Jeffry Fontaine »
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OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2020, 02:45:49 AM »
Again, 20 years ago I saw a drawing like this -


Better visualization, unavailable to me at the time of initial build.


I'd picked up a few DML T-72 kits and figured 'why not? I'll tackle my interpretation of that...'
I'd gotten only this far, and you guys know what happens. Life.


"I really should finish this", thinks I.  "What would make sense?", thinks I. I don't want to spend a bunch of time on it, but still.  Since art imitates life, it should become one of abandoned projects that seem to litter the former Soviet Union.

So I went a googlin' and found this.



Well now, if that wasn't a bias confirmation I don't know what is.

Inspirational or backgrounder reading list, in no particular order

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/object-195.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-14_Armata

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-95

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/meet-t-95-russian-super-tank-moscow-passed-big-mistake-81296
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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2020, 02:48:55 AM »
Taking stock, both the hull and turret needed to be addressed (since I wouldn't call it *finished*)





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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2020, 02:52:17 AM »
So the hull deck needed to be plated off, over the crew/autoloader/whatever section


Then primed
and given a base coat of green

Yeah, turret needs inspiration

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2020, 02:57:34 AM »
So, what's the final product going to resemble?

Abandoned tetanus-laden junk


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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2020, 03:25:45 AM »
Eight road wheel arrangement looks interesting.  A shame that you could not find a way to mount the engine/transmission up front (like the Merkava) and have a rear entrance for access and loading the ammunition racks.  But still looks like a great project that I hope you can finish [soon].
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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2020, 03:49:38 AM »
   A shame that you could not find a way to mount the engine/transmission up front (like the Merkava) and have a rear entrance for access and loading the ammunition racks.   

I was following the original Soviet/Russian pattern. 

I too hope I can cobble the rest of the turret togethor.

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2020, 05:05:46 AM »
First pass at weathering the hull, over the base coat.

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2020, 09:31:14 AM »
Still more goodnessness.

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2020, 07:34:49 AM »
This is gonna be great!  8)

<...> Abandoned tetanus-laden junk

 ;D
 Does make for interesting diorama possibilities, though.  :smiley:
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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2020, 07:52:43 AM »
That's a lot of roadwheels! The first pass at the rust and weathering looks good.

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2020, 12:06:59 AM »
That's a lot of roadwheels! The first pass at the rust and weathering looks good.

Precedence exists.


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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2020, 12:37:00 AM »
It could be worse - it could be Object 279


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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2020, 10:42:18 AM »
How would you work on the suspension of the inner set of tracks on that monstrosity?

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2020, 02:32:45 AM »
With great difficulty
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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2020, 01:25:16 PM »
Looks cool

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2020, 08:53:11 AM »
Some serious stryrene chopping going on there! Nice work  :smiley:
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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2020, 05:28:19 AM »
Yeah, I figure the lead engineer for this project was this guy.



"The way I understand it, the Russians are sort of a combination of evil and incompetence... sort of like the Post Office with tanks." - Emo Philips

I keep finding bits and pieces meant for the original concept, like this pair of Remote Control Weapons Stations (RCWS) armed with NSVT 12.7 mm HMGs (DML Naval Infantry figure shown for scale).


They would have filled the two turret hatches, oriented respectively to the 12 and 6 o'clock positions. Now that this build has transitioned to an abandoned project worthy of STALKER, they are redundent.

In reality, while the Russians are still behind on this, the Indians have been working on their own spin. https://www.armyrecognition.com/march_2020_news_defense_global_security_army_industry/india_has_developed_new_remotely_weapon_station_armed_with_nsvt_12.7mm_machine_gun.html


Was going through my photo albums, realized I actually started another thread on this three years ago.
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=7277.msg127073#msg127073
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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2020, 10:18:33 PM »
Nice details!

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2022, 10:22:44 AM »
Yikes. I started this thing over four years ago (and it was a WIP then)
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=7277.0

So over the past weeek I rolled around in a pile of epiphanies and figured out where this mastodon is to wind up.

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2022, 08:08:10 AM »
 :smiley:
Pass the razor saw, there is work to be done!

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2022, 10:37:53 AM »
Came out great!

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2022, 07:02:42 AM »
Worth the journey though

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2022, 02:14:26 AM »
Thanks for the preemptively kind words, but I got distracted before putting the final touches on it (which was an exercise in how to replicate blue tarping).



Administrative note - that's a pair of road wheels under the gun tube. You'll notice when a breach block has been removed or there's no hydraulic pressure left, tubes will droop like an octogenarian's gonads.

I wanted it to look like a Gopnik hangout, but ... just don't have to inspiration to make a bunch of crushed beer cans from sprue bits. Also, the side skirt graffiti is too clean.

MODERATOR - is there an easy way to blend the prequel thread into this one?
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=7277.msg127073#msg127073
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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2022, 02:23:50 AM »
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2022, 02:25:39 AM »


Done

Oooooooooooooooooooooh. Thank you


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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2022, 06:10:33 AM »
that look great. Really nice and the final "resting" state is a great idea

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Re: OBJECT-195 (or "I remember what I was thinking of now..")
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2022, 08:31:26 AM »
Now it looks done!  :D

Great job, Story! Would love to see it in a diorama! :smiley: 8)
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