Author Topic: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration  (Read 132081 times)

Offline jcf

  • Global Moderator
  • Turn that Gila-copter down!
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #425 on: November 11, 2020, 05:56:43 AM »
Oh yeah!!!



Amusing, but the V-tail is way too small.
“Conspiracy theory’s got to be simple.
Sense doesn’t come into it. People are
more scared of how complicated shit
actually is than they ever are about
whatever’s supposed to be behind the
conspiracy.”
-The Peripheral, William Gibson 2014

Offline elmayerle

  • Its about time there was an Avatar shown here...
  • Über Engineer...at least that is what he tells us.
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #426 on: November 11, 2020, 08:58:25 AM »
I have to agree with Jon, that V-tail is way too small.  Perhaps use half of a F-101 horizontal tail for each leg of the V?  That's just a first thought, it may yet need larger surfaces than that.

Offline Kelmola

  • Seeking motivation to start buillding the stash
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #427 on: November 12, 2020, 06:45:09 PM »
That's a lot of airplane for no BVR missile capability.
Well, the F-4F was a stopgap solution to begin with due to the delays in the Tornado program, and as the version of the Tornado the Luftwaffe was considering did not include BVR capability they did not want to pay for that in an interim aircraft either. MDD was probably anxious to cut the costs (and thus sales price) anyway in order not to have Luftwaffe buy eg. Viggen (of course, Luftwaffe did not need to tell them that they did not want another single-engined aircraft, no matter how cheap) or Jaguar instead.

That does not of course explain the other half of the order, which was used in dedicated air-to-air role, but as it was supposed to supplant the attrition of the F-104 force, the capability was replaced like-for-like.

The cynic would say that this was how the acquisition was sold to the politicians, as in a few years Maverick capability was (re-)added and in less than ten years the Luftwaffe would initiate the ICE program which actually modernized the F-4F's beyond any US Phantoms (APG-65 radar, the same as F/A-18, and AMRAAM capability, among many other improvements).

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #428 on: July 11, 2021, 01:46:16 AM »

All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #429 on: July 11, 2021, 02:08:43 AM »

All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline ysi_maniac

  • I will die understanding not this world
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #430 on: December 12, 2021, 03:10:48 PM »
Super swept Phantom



Offline Volkodav

  • Counts rivits with his abacus...
  • Much older now...but procrastinating about it
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #431 on: December 12, 2021, 03:42:04 PM »
USN and USMC Hybrid F-4K to operate off life extended Essex Class carriers in the CVS and a new CVA(M) configuration.

Offline ysi_maniac

  • I will die understanding not this world
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #432 on: January 05, 2022, 08:02:03 PM »
Study for a single engine F-4 Phantom.



Engine does not have to be necessarily Volvo RM8. I think more in an upscaled version of EJ200

Offline dy031101

  • Yuri Fanboy and making cute stuff practical- at least that's the plan anyway
  • Prefers Guns And Tanks Over Swords And Magic
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #433 on: April 13, 2022, 03:03:39 AM »
Model of F-4E for ROCAF.

Source HERE
Forget about his bow and arrows- why wait until that sparrow has done his deed when I can just bury him right now 'cause I'm sick and tired of hearing why he wants to have his way with the cock robin!?

Offline GTX_Admin

  • Evil Administrator bent on taking over the Universe!
  • Administrator - Yep, I'm the one to blame for this place.
  • Whiffing Demi-God!
    • Beyond the Sprues
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #434 on: April 15, 2022, 03:26:40 AM »
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline Kerick

  • Newly Joined - Welcome me!
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #435 on: April 15, 2022, 10:37:14 AM »


Roll in on one of rootin tootin Putin’s convoys and play can opener.

Offline ysi_maniac

  • I will die understanding not this world
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #436 on: August 05, 2022, 03:15:14 PM »
T-tailed Phantom with a british touch. ;)


Offline ysi_maniac

  • I will die understanding not this world
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #437 on: August 16, 2022, 11:22:30 AM »
German recce Phantom made up with some Alpha Jet bits. Tail fin need some schatch. ;)


Offline Jeffry Fontaine

  • Unaffiliated Independent Subversive...and the last person to go for a trip on a Mexicana dH Comet 4
  • Global Moderator
  • His stash is able to be seen from space...
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #438 on: August 26, 2022, 04:02:03 AM »
New video trailer from DCS for the OG Rhino: F-4 (F-110) Phantom
DCS (Digital Combat Simulations) > Legends Never Die > F-4E Announcement Trailer[/html]
"Every day we hear about new studies 'revealing' what should have been obvious to sentient beings for generations; 'Research shows wolverines don't like to be teased" -- Jonah Goldberg

Offline KiwiZac

  • The Modeller Formerly Known As K5054NZ
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #439 on: August 27, 2022, 07:24:47 AM »
New video trailer from DCS for the OG Rhino: F-4 (F-110) Phantom
DCS (Digital Combat Simulations) > Legends Never Die > F-4E Announcement Trailer
*from January, for anyone else who thought it seemed familiar!

Offline ysi_maniac

  • I will die understanding not this world
Re: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #440 on: September 09, 2022, 12:07:41 PM »
Another IAI speculative product for Argentina to rebuild Air Force: Scaleoramed Phantom.