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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #75 on: December 29, 2014, 01:01:15 PM »

I still want to find a way to get the S Tank in service and the Lynx helicopter.

Well if you want British ships for the RAN, then one of their better features is that they come with the Navy Lynx as standard. That should, in theory, make the "common logistics" argument useful in getting an Army Lynx buy as well. Has to be said that it's never actually worked in practice though.... ::)

The Army Lynx seems to be perceived as a bit of an oddball in the field of army support helicopters: too expensive for a "light" helicopter and too small for a "medium" helicopter. Judged on it's own merits it can do a lot of useful things, but it doesn't seem to fit the standard formulas.
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #76 on: December 29, 2014, 01:09:12 PM »
The Lynx was the alternate for the Sea Sprite in RAN service.
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #77 on: December 29, 2014, 02:59:21 PM »
The Lynx was the alternate for the Sea Sprite in RAN service.

NZ selected the Lynx to operate from their ANZAC frigates but put off placing an order until Australia made their selection, which turned out to be the Super Sea Sprite.  NZ then placed an order for new build Gs, that served well for two decades, while Australia opted for rebuilt bespoke USN machines that never actually entered service due to a completely botched procurement.  Ironically the corvettes the Spogs were intended to serve on were cancelled before the helicopter was selected.

The RAN had previously looked likely to buy the Lynx in the 70s to operate off the DDL (also cancelled) and lost out to the Seahawk in a competition to select a helicopter to operate from the OHP FFGs bought instead of the DDLs.  I haven't seen the pricings but I have heard the cost of modifying the first three FFGs to operate Seahawk, plus the price premium of Seahawk over Lynx, was more than the cost of a pair of helicopter carriers to take the RAN FAAs existing Sea Kings to sea.

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #78 on: December 29, 2014, 05:47:56 PM »

I still want to find a way to get the S Tank in service and the Lynx helicopter.

Well if you want British ships for the RAN, then one of their better features is that they come with the Navy Lynx as standard. That should, in theory, make the "common logistics" argument useful in getting an Army Lynx buy as well. Has to be said that it's never actually worked in practice though.... ::)

The Army Lynx seems to be perceived as a bit of an oddball in the field of army support helicopters: too expensive for a "light" helicopter and too small for a "medium" helicopter. Judged on it's own merits it can do a lot of useful things, but it doesn't seem to fit the standard formulas.

The WG30 was to be the "Medium Lynx".   It was a new, larger fuselage with the Lynx's mechanicals attached.  It could carry up to 20 men IIRC.  The problem for Lynx was that it had to fulfil two roles - a shipboard helicopter where a compact design was wanted and an army support one, where a larger volume was required.  Problem was, it couldn't do both.   Westland in the end decided it was just easier to build a completely new design to satisfy the army need, hence the WG30.  Problem was, no one really wanted it, particularly when Sikorsky Blackhawks were going (relatively) cheap and had better load carrying capabilities.  WG30 was proposed for the Australian Army but the Blackhawk won 'cause it was so much cheaper and more capable.   The biggest advantage the WG30 had was that you didn't have to exit towards the rear rotor when carrying drop tanks, as you do on the Blackhawk.

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #79 on: December 30, 2014, 08:07:21 AM »
<...> the Revell kit.  Which while not terribly accurate is worth building with some whiffs <...>

90mm Cockerill turret from Hobby Boss LAV-150!  :)
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #80 on: December 30, 2014, 09:45:02 AM »

I still want to find a way to get the S Tank in service and the Lynx helicopter.

Well if you want British ships for the RAN, then one of their better features is that they come with the Navy Lynx as standard. That should, in theory, make the "common logistics" argument useful in getting an Army Lynx buy as well. Has to be said that it's never actually worked in practice though.... ::)

The Army Lynx seems to be perceived as a bit of an oddball in the field of army support helicopters: too expensive for a "light" helicopter and too small for a "medium" helicopter. Judged on it's own merits it can do a lot of useful things, but it doesn't seem to fit the standard formulas.

The WG30 was to be the "Medium Lynx".   It was a new, larger fuselage with the Lynx's mechanicals attached.  It could carry up to 20 men IIRC.  The problem for Lynx was that it had to fulfil two roles - a shipboard helicopter where a compact design was wanted and an army support one, where a larger volume was required.  Problem was, it couldn't do both.   Westland in the end decided it was just easier to build a completely new design to satisfy the army need, hence the WG30.  Problem was, no one really wanted it, particularly when Sikorsky Blackhawks were going (relatively) cheap and had better load carrying capabilities.  WG30 was proposed for the Australian Army but the Blackhawk won 'cause it was so much cheaper and more capable.   The biggest advantage the WG30 had was that you didn't have to exit towards the rear rotor when carrying drop tanks, as you do on the Blackhawk.

There were some political and industrial aspects to the WG30's failure as well. Westland was struggling and wanted Sikorsky to buy them, so they soft-pedalled the WG.30 to the RAF in order to create an opportunity to sell them licence-produced Blackhawks later. Unfortunately, the RAF never liked the Blackhawk and some elements of the government didn't like the Sikorsky deal either, preferring a European merger, so although Sikorsky did own Westland's for a while, it didn't get them the result they wanted, and the company was eventually sold to GKN.
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #81 on: January 07, 2015, 03:10:37 AM »
And now they announce a combo of the Panzer VIII “Maus” and the P-1000 Landkreuzer or “Ratte” – both in 1/144:

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #82 on: January 21, 2015, 10:02:38 PM »
Hobby Search (LINK!) has a pic of the box art -  complete with flying saucers!  ;D  :icon_beer:


The promo blurb mentions the flying saucers are not included, though.  :uuu:
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #83 on: January 22, 2015, 12:10:39 AM »
Brilliant! The TAKOM art department did a great job putting the Ratte in the proper context.  ;D  :icon_fsm:
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #84 on: January 22, 2015, 02:02:36 AM »
Cool 8)
Though dang, not at least 1/72.

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #85 on: January 22, 2015, 02:37:42 AM »
And in more boring news, here is the box art for their new Luchs:

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #86 on: January 22, 2015, 02:38:22 AM »
A bigger version of the image posted above:

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #87 on: January 22, 2015, 03:01:55 AM »
Cool 8)
Though dang, not at least 1/72.
In 1:72nd scale you would have a pair of 140mm (5.5") guns instead of 280mm (11.02") guns in that turret.  Still plenty big enough to impress everyone :)
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #88 on: January 22, 2015, 11:29:34 AM »
Brilliant! The TAKOM art department did a great job putting the Ratte in the proper context.  ;D  :icon_fsm:

So true....   terrific box art :)

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #89 on: January 22, 2015, 11:38:00 AM »
Cool 8)
Though dang, not at least 1/72.
In 1:72nd scale you would have a pair of 140mm (5.5") guns instead of 280mm (11.02") guns in that turret.  Still plenty big enough to impress everyone :)

Thatz a good take on it.  Wonder what two smaller tanks measure out to?  At least their turrets have 1/72 usefullness.

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #90 on: January 22, 2015, 12:40:11 PM »
And in more boring news, here is the box art for their new Luchs:




I could easily imagine an Australian buy of these in the 70s, at the same time as the Leopard, to equip the 2nd Cavalry Regiment and support the Marder equipped 5/7 RAR Mechanised Infantry Battalion and maybe a squadrons worth of Fuchs to provide lift to 3RAR (Para) there by Germanising the whole of 1 Brigade ;D
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #91 on: January 22, 2015, 04:49:41 PM »
Says on the box "2 in 1".  Two in one, what?

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #92 on: January 22, 2015, 10:16:22 PM »
AIUI, "two in one" means that the kit includes parts for both the A1 and the A2 versions, meaning two sets of tires and some other bits (thermal imager/gunnery sight instead for the A2 instead of the white light/IR night vision sight,...).
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #93 on: January 23, 2015, 12:55:34 AM »
The Luchs has been a long-time favorite for its looks alone. May even buy one of these.
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #94 on: April 03, 2015, 10:46:48 PM »
For everyone with an interest in the new 1:35th scale Takom Spähpanzer 2 (SpPz) Luchs A1/A2.  Gerald Willing has uploaded an in-the-box kit review to Modellversium that should help you in making your decision to purchase the kit. 

Click on html above or image below to visit the review page at Modellversium.de


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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #95 on: April 04, 2015, 05:02:25 AM »
that Modellversium review is quite basic - I've read a better review elsewhere .... suffice to say the kit is very accurate, but like most modern kits, is a bit over complicated.

The lack of turned metal barrel is a plus for me (nothing wrong with kit plastic barrels) but the vynal tires (as always) are a definite minus, despite them being accurate in style.

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #96 on: April 22, 2015, 03:00:14 AM »
Two new ones - both in 1/35 and both look real enticing...




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I have been interested in a 12.8cm Flak 40 Zwilling for some time so this makes me very happy.
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #97 on: May 03, 2015, 10:40:45 PM »
The Turtle (I'm sure it should really be "Tortoise", as I can't see it swimming too far) is pretty close to a "must have"! 8)
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #98 on: May 20, 2015, 09:41:37 PM »
This one should please Jeff:


http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/TAK02021
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #99 on: May 20, 2015, 10:29:34 PM »
This one should please Jeff <snip>
Yes indeed!  Very pleased indeed.  :)
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