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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2013, 06:17:19 PM »
Cool  8)
I like it.  Nice to do in styrene.

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2013, 07:46:05 PM »
That looks well doable. The only question would be where do you put the guns? F-94A style wing pods?
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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2013, 05:36:03 AM »
Skyfox was shown to the Canadian Forces, stopping at several bases.

It would be nice to do one up as a 414 (EW) Sqdn CE-133, but using the tiptank mounts for Growler-style EW pods. Maybe have them self powered using the turbine from an ALQ pod (the type regular T-birds carried)?

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2013, 06:20:53 AM »
That looks well doable. The only question would be where do you put the guns? F-94A style wing pods?
Or  P-51 style

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2013, 07:55:09 AM »
That looks well doable. The only question would be where do you put the guns? F-94A style wing pods?
Or  P-51 style
I'd go with a minimum-change conversion and use F-94-style gun pods; redesigning the wing to stick guns in would be an expensive pain and definitely cut down on rage by eliminating the wing tanks.

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2013, 06:57:16 AM »
With P-80 or T-33 1/72 and Intruder 1/100




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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2013, 02:18:32 PM »
Great idea!

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2013, 09:05:02 PM »
^^^^ Thanks
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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2013, 03:40:58 AM »
I KNEW it reminded me of something... yep, it looks like a Lansen in plan form.

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2013, 03:51:48 AM »
Swept wings P-80


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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2014, 04:34:47 AM »
With P-80 or T-33 1/72 and Intruder 1/100

It actually reminds me of Saab 32 (which I always felt to be what a faster, reinvented P-80 might look like)......
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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2014, 05:44:50 AM »





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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2014, 06:14:57 AM »
Thanks Jon.

The P-80E has a scaled down F-94C backend. Not sure about the wings. XF-90 maybe?
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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2014, 07:22:38 AM »
The P-80E has a scaled down F-94C backend. Not sure about the wings. XF-90 maybe?
I don't know that it's that scaled down either, since the two aircraft are pretty much the same size.  I think the wings may stem from the same data as the F-90's so one could be scaled from the other (much as the F404 and F110 share similar nozzle contours, just scaled differently).  I do remember reading that the P-80E started with a T-33 fuselage and went to a single-seat cockpit and canopy while keeping the extra length.

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2014, 08:00:12 AM »
I love the VG wing (and tail) one.
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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2014, 08:24:15 AM »
Via jcf:



RF-80 nose.  Early Skunkworks recce drone.
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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2014, 11:39:13 AM »
P-80E using a T-Bird fuse would let you move the avionics to the rear and mount all the guns. Best of both worlds. :)

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2014, 09:19:44 PM »
The P-80E has a scaled down F-94C backend. Not sure about the wings. XF-90 maybe?
I don't know that it's that scaled down either, since the two aircraft are pretty much the same size.  I think the wings may stem from the same data as the F-90's so one could be scaled from the other (much as the F404 and F110 share similar nozzle contours, just scaled differently).  I do remember reading that the P-80E started with a T-33 fuselage and went to a single-seat cockpit and canopy while keeping the extra length.

For the P-80E, I've set aside a P-80, T-33 and a F-94C. What about the wings. The degrees of sweep back appears to be about 20-25o. But for the life of me I cannot find a protractor. Any suggestions on a donor kit? The big issue will be the main gear and its inward retraction. The Heller Saab Lansen comes to mind.
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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2014, 08:33:48 PM »
Swept wings P-80




I took my Revell G.91 and was able to attach the tail. A very good fit with a bit of PSR.  But the G.91 wings are too small. It appears that in the drawing that they have been scaled up by 5-10%. So the current kit wings are too small. So I'll use F-86 wings cut back by 1/4" or so.

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2014, 02:03:19 AM »
Random Idea:

RAF P-80s instead of the dH Vampire…and painted like this:

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2014, 03:19:21 AM »
The Canadian T-33's went through a spell with that camo', so not too far fetched is it ---

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2014, 06:47:30 AM »
133450... I know that old girl! :)

Back when Canadian-based T-Birds were still wearing natural metal the birds assigned to Germany wore camo. There would always be one camo bird in North Bay, we did the heavy maintenance checks for Germany.

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2014, 09:56:12 AM »
This entire thread is awesome.  Love the straight and swept planviews and ideas all of you come up with  :-*

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2020, 11:56:10 PM »
Here's something from SPF that is very interesting --- something I just have to make a model of ----

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Re: Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star and T-33 and derivatives
« Reply #49 on: March 23, 2020, 12:22:12 AM »
Noice!

I'll challenge you to a race on this one Robert?

Stabilizers need not be same as photo?
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