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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2017, 04:21:26 PM »
I have often wondered how to justify multiple platforms filling similar roles, great for whiff but not much good for real life.  What I was thinking was, in particular with the light fleet carriers and their limited space, that the fighter selected for each air group/wing would depend on the other aircraft.  For instance I imagined a Merlin group, a Griffon group and a Centaurus group, or perhaps a long range strike group with Sea Hornet, Sea Mosquito and/or Sturgeon, a tactical strike group with Fury and Firebrand/Firecrest (or Anglicised Skyraider etc.) and a sea control group with Seafire, Firefly (NF & ASW), maybe even an ASW version of the Seagull.

For the MB5, Fury and CA-15, it could perhaps be even simpler with the MB5 and the CA-15 being tailored to complement each other, say one as an interceptor and the other as a fighter bomber or escort fighter.

One way you can justify it is to cite production issues. Sometimes it gets you more planes sooner if you let two factories build what they already know, rather than forcing one of them to build the other's design in the name of standardisation. This is particulary true if one of the factories is geared up for a an unusual design or construction technique that would take the other one a long time to switch to. Vickers' geodesics and De Havilland's wooden composites spring to mind as examples.

Maybe the Griffon engine MB-5 could have been ordered from the UK along side and initial production batch of CAC CA15 derived naval fighters before the CAC line was retooled for the ultimate R-2800 engined versions.

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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2017, 10:58:36 PM »
The MB3 was powered by an early Napier Sabre engine and I've always thought the Griffon in the MB5 looked sort of 'lost', if you know what I mean. My plan for my four Falcon MB5's is to build one with a Sabre (not any Sabre though, a Sabre 7 or 8 which were 3000 hp motors), one will have a turbo-charged Centaurus with an exhaust system similar to a P-47 so I can explain away the use of the radiator duct in another way, and the other two as a JMN bait, done like an F-82. I haven't decided what engines it will have yet.
I've already built a 1/72 model of the MB5 prototype quite a few years ago, it's an Airframe vacuform kit with lots of Aeroclub accessories.

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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2017, 02:40:15 AM »
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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2017, 08:08:51 AM »
Nice!  Are they going to include the bits to also model a BAC.221?

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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2017, 12:07:08 PM »
Nice!  Are they going to include the bits to also model a BAC.221?

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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2017, 12:48:09 PM »
Yep, mods included a six-foot stretch.
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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2017, 01:04:05 AM »
Okay, then that's not likely to happen.  I rather hope they scale this down to 1/72, also.  IIRC, the only kit available in that scale of the FD.2 is the old Frog kit and it leaves a lot to be desired.

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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #57 on: February 09, 2017, 01:18:57 AM »
Pro-Resin do the BAC 221 in 1/72, and Whirlykit do a vacuform (ex Maintrack) also in 1/72. Got one of those in the stash

Offline KiwiZac

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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #58 on: February 09, 2017, 05:15:51 AM »
The R22 and R44 are good news, but they may end up like the C180/185 which were originally announced a couple of years ago (if not longer).

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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #59 on: February 09, 2017, 06:55:16 AM »
Pro-Resin do the BAC 221 in 1/72, and Whirlykit do a vacuform (ex Maintrack) also in 1/72. Got one of those in the stash
I've got the old Maintrack kit; I want a good 1/72 FD.2 as all I have for that is the old (very!) Frog kit.

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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2017, 01:22:28 AM »
Didn't see this one coming. Would make for an interesting landing technique!




Can be pre-ordered at Hannants: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AZM7562
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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #62 on: April 20, 2017, 02:08:37 AM »
Interesting...even if it is the wrong scale!
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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #63 on: October 27, 2017, 09:04:17 PM »
Oh boy oh boy oh boy!!!  [Insert happy dance]

This is such a great way to start the weekend off (if you build in 1/72)!!

Found these on the Hannants Future Release page this morning (Oct 27 which is 01/72 when reversed!).













Already put the kits on Backorder.

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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #64 on: October 27, 2017, 09:07:06 PM »
And this as well.




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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #66 on: October 28, 2017, 01:02:15 AM »
Woooot? My M.B.6 idea made into plastic!?
https://jeremak-j.deviantart.com/art/MB-6-amoeba-scheme-200446941
https://jeremak-j.deviantart.com/art/Martin-Baker-MB-6-ADGB-199930080
https://jeremak-j.deviantart.com/art/Martin-Baker-MB-6-307-sq-199929196

Hi Jacek: Did AZ Models use your artwork without your permission? If they did, your should ask for royalties and free kits for all your BTS friends.
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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #67 on: October 28, 2017, 01:50:00 AM »
That Woot speak for itself: before this i didn't know they exist. Maybe not artwork per se, but idea: you can compare colour shemes and even some word used in descriptions. On DA, and in this thread where I showed it first: http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,31581.0.html

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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #68 on: October 28, 2017, 07:11:07 AM »
Colin Strachan of Freightdog just posted this note on the SR.53:

Based on Freightdog SR.53 masters from my resin kit produced a few years back, this injection molded cooperation with AZ Model in 1/72 is due out at Telford next month. A limited edition Freightdog boxing will different decals will follow early in 2018.
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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2017, 12:28:55 AM »
Woooot? My M.B.6 idea made into plastic!?
https://jeremak-j.deviantart.com/art/MB-6-amoeba-scheme-200446941
https://jeremak-j.deviantart.com/art/Martin-Baker-MB-6-ADGB-199930080
https://jeremak-j.deviantart.com/art/Martin-Baker-MB-6-307-sq-199929196

Hi Jacek: Did AZ Models use your artwork without your permission? If they did, your should ask for royalties and free kits for all your BTS friends.

Happened to me with the the Canadian Migs story and Omega Models with the Ye-8.  Came to an understanding with the manufacturer.
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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #70 on: December 10, 2017, 03:15:03 AM »
Interesting aspect of the MB.6 kits, they add a new sprue to their MB.5 kit with all the new bits and have a clear sprue with the new canopy.  So you end up with a spare MB.5 fuselage and a tailhook for the whiff-ed navalized one.  I'm real tempted to do a navalized MB.6 in FAA colors.

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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #71 on: December 10, 2017, 08:53:40 AM »
Interesting aspect of the MB.6 kits, they add a new sprue to their MB.5 kit with all the new bits and have a clear sprue with the new canopy.  So you end up with a spare MB.5 fuselage and a tailhook for the whiff-ed navalized one.  I'm real tempted to do a navalized MB.6 in FAA colors.

Could you provide some sprue photos? Tx.
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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #72 on: December 10, 2017, 10:01:10 AM »
Just now spotted these various AZ kits.  Desirable kits all around.

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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #73 on: December 10, 2017, 09:31:08 PM »
Interesting aspect of the MB.6 kits, they add a new sprue to their MB.5 kit with all the new bits and have a clear sprue with the new canopy.  So you end up with a spare MB.5 fuselage and a tailhook for the whiff-ed navalized one.  I'm real tempted to do a navalized MB.6 in FAA colors.

Could you provide some sprue photos? Tx.

I should have one in the next few days, it's in transit from the UK where a friend got one for me from Telford. My plan is to have a Napier Sabre engine on the front of the two-seater version. Specifically, a Sabre VIII of over 3000 hp with a contra-prop
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Re: AZ Model
« Reply #74 on: January 21, 2018, 09:36:27 PM »
Re-release.  1/72 Supermarine Seafang F Mk.32





Available at Hannants: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AZM7585
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