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Offline Kerick

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Modern medium bomber
« on: September 13, 2022, 12:36:15 PM »
Or should I say modern heavy fighter bomber. Something less than a B-52, B-1 or B-2 but with much more payload than an F-16 or F-18. There was an idea for an enlarged F-22 with an internal bomb bay. Same thing could probably be imagined for an enlarged F-23. I was just thinking of a stretched F-14 Tomcat that would be a real “Bombcat”! Take an F-16XL and really go scale-a-rama with it. Add some real tech that would give it excellent accuracy. I’m thinking a two person crew would be standard if not three. I’m just throwing ideas around right now but do you guys think this could be a good whiff?
Scale-o-rama some Mirages with two or more engines maybe B-58 style…..
Just thinking now of an enlarged three engine Phantom with bigger wings for lots more pylons…..

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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2022, 09:10:57 PM »
Something between the A-12 and B-2 in the flying wing family would be interesting to see done. 

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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2022, 10:34:11 PM »
I always liked the notion of a half-scaled Rockwell B-1B as a replacement for the adhoc series of General Dynamics F-111 series - with two crew, instead of four; two F101 turbofans instead of four; two internal weapons, instead of three.....
I'm assumising that by utilising the principle of a half-scaled B-1B, so much money would be saved in R&D, while mitigating development risk, because it had all been developed and proven in the B-1B program itself, which one would think would naturally equate to massive economic savings and a quick and fluid OIC.



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Offline Kerick

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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2022, 11:04:07 PM »
Half scale B-one sounds really interesting. Something with a much larger bomb load than a fighter and still has speed and maneuverability. I’ve heard pilots compare a B-1 to a loaded Phantom so that’s pretty good. In Afghanistan B-1s were just loaded with JDAMs orbiting waiting for a CAS call. No need for a strategic bomber for that. Plus they were flying all the way from bases in the US to do it. I’ll have to dig around in the junk drawer and see what I can throw together. Some old box scale kit might work.

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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2022, 01:57:07 AM »
Airbus B-400

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Re: Modern medium bomber
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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2022, 08:03:53 AM »
Reminds me of the RF-23 I have sitting on the table waiting to be finished. I stretched the fuselage ahead of the wings by an inch on a 1/72nd scale model. I also redid the intakes too. Another project that deserves to be finished.

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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2022, 08:53:39 AM »
The  enlarged F-23 concept looks like a stealthy A-5 Vigilante.

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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2022, 10:42:05 AM »
I'm mentally trying to turn an F-15 into something large and in charge. Maybe an F-111 front section with a wider F-15 fuselage and bigger wings.
But swing wings are very attractive too! Needs a pair of F-35 engines. 

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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2022, 01:54:37 AM »
How about a development of the P-8 with weapons bays forward and aft of the wing and with all the ASW gear stripped out:




See here for some thinking:  https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40859/the-case-for-stripping-the-p-8-poseidon-down-into-an-rb-8-multi-role-arsenal-ship
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Re: Modern medium bomber
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2022, 05:39:31 AM »
I’ve thought about converting an airliner into a bomb truck. Perhaps with a new fuselage shaped like a bomber instead of an airliner. Maybe a 757 or at least the wings. It would need Lantern pods built in with B-52 style chin bulges.

Still rolling around B-1 and fighter type of aircraft on steroids ideas.


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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2022, 06:11:31 AM »
I’ve thought about converting an airliner into a bomb truck. Perhaps with a new fuselage shaped like a bomber instead of an airliner. Maybe a 757 or at least the wings. It would need Lantern pods built in with B-52 style chin bulges.


Something like this . . . ?





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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2022, 11:08:40 PM »
That's very much like what I've been thinking of! Thanks!

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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2022, 08:15:29 AM »
I’ve been thinking of an F-111 front end and an F-15 or F-14 widened fuselage. Trying to add a third engine might be a challenge. Maybe an F-16 style under fuselage scoop but squared up like the Eagle or Tomcat intakes.

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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2022, 01:24:50 AM »
Maybe an F-16 style under fuselage scoop but squared up like the Eagle or Tomcat intakes.

A bit like this?



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Re: Modern medium bomber
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2022, 02:19:29 AM »
F-111?