Beyond The Sprues
Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on December 28, 2011, 03:57:45 AM
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Hi folks,
A thread for your HP Halifax Ideas and Inspiration.
To kick things off, how about a flyingboat derivative:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/HPHull.jpg)
Regards,
Greg
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Yipes! Certainly didn't see that coming.
Regards,
John
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Lengthen the nose a bit, add a tricycle landing gear. Create some spurious efficient engines and the Norwegians have an early ASW machine.
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Since the engine and wing errors on the new Revell kit have enough people in a pickle, pick one up cheap at a swap meet and add four Griffon engines from Airfix new 1/72 kits or four Allison's from Airfix new little P-40. Prototype RAF paint and one has a JMN grabber. >:D :-* :-\ ;D
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How about a Halifax given an equivalent treatment as the Lancaster was to develop the Lincoln?
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That would be the HP 65, with turbo-supercharged Hercules. :)
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Thanks Jon. Would you happen to have any pics of the other developments:
HP.66 - design for developed Halifax ordered to specification B.27/43, provisionally called Hastings B.I, abandoned after end of war.
HP.69 - design for developed Halifax with turbo-blower exhaust Hercules 100, provisionally called Hastings Mark II.
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The single-spar, laminar flow wing of the H.P. 65 was considered a step too far due to limitations
on available construction techniques, so H.P. was asked to abandon that plan and switch to a simpler
design. This consisted of a new two-spar 55' span centre-section to which extended Halifax outer
wing panels were attached. The resultant Hercules 100 powered H.P.66 (Hastings B.Mk.I) was defined
by Spec. B.27/43, the specification was written around the design, two prototypes were ordered.
A third prototype was ordered as the H.P.69(Hastings B.Mk.II) with turbo-charged Hercules HE-15MT
engines, otherwise it was the same as the H.P.66. As a back up Merlin 25 engines in RAE 'idealized'
cylindrical cowlings, as used on Lincoln and Warwick, were also envisaged.
The H.P.66/69 wing design was used on the H.P.67 Hastings transport.
-info from Handley-Page Aircraft since 1907, C.H. Barnes, 2nd ed., Putnam 1987
So a Halifax III fuselage (with deepened bomb-doors) and extended outer wing panels, Hastings
style centre-section and Lincoln cowlings for a Merlin powered Hastings B.Mk.III.
:)
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Thanks Jon - sounds very much like what I was thinking of when I wrote my original bit about a Lincoln style Halifax - especially with the Griffons. Now, I do have a spare 1/48 Lincoln conversion around here + a Halifax kit (or was that a Halton?)... ::)
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(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13559121_1708400462732307_972733122860507804_o.jpg)
This is from a Facebook group called Fantasy Kit World (https://www.facebook.com/fantasykitworld/?). It is What-if box art.
Source: Facebook Fantasy Kit World
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Nice artwork.
There are a few 1/72 Halton conversions available in reality though:
(https://scalemates-31cf.kxcdn.com/products/img/8/7/4/139874-11200-pristine.jpg)
The lower one is from Heritage Aviation Models:
(https://scalemates-31cf.kxcdn.com/products/img/3/5/4/206354-12155-17-pristine.jpg)
Or one could come to the "Man's scale" of 1/48 and get a full kit:
(http://images.ttcdn.co/media/i/product/404804-0530f56b29f04c01bccedafd0af835ab.jpeg?size=1000)
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One sometimes forgets that the Halifax had bomb compartments in the wings:
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/1609965408329-png.607874/)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9b/84/e8/9b84e8466824a796e8348c62ce52a399.jpg)
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I had no idea the Halifax had bombs in the wings!
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I had no idea the Halifax had bombs in the wings!
Same here! :icon_surprised:
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I seem to remember the Airfix kit had them included --- or maybe that was the Sterling --- ???
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Each cell could accommodate a single 500lb bomb.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Royal_Air_Force-_Italy%2Cthe_Balkans_and_South-east_Europe%2C_1942-1945._CNA3231.jpg/1280px-Royal_Air_Force-_Italy%2Cthe_Balkans_and_South-east_Europe%2C_1942-1945._CNA3231.jpg)
Late B.1A loaded with fifteen supply containers to be dropped to partisans in
Yugoslavia.
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One sometimes forgets that the Halifax had bomb compartments in the wings:
I can't forget what I didn't know GTX. Very interesting and thanks for bringing to my attention.
MAD
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One sometimes forgets that the Halifax had bomb compartments in the wings:
(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/1609965408329-png.607874/)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9b/84/e8/9b84e8466824a796e8348c62ce52a399.jpg)
The later Hercules-powered B.III's only had two cells per wing.
Chris
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Passengers Halifax. Better than Halton, I hope. ;D
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Halifax_DC-3.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/01e06e77-ea63-466f-8296-82443f511c41)
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Variations on Halifax
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/VarOnHalifax.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/670a7b23-1f9f-4f58-a443-c74b4ce73e09)
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I like. Good brain fodder for future Halibag builds.
Is that a He 177 Grief tail?
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^^^^^
YES
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How about a Halifax backdated (?) and given a similar approach to the AVRO Manchester? In other words a twin engined Halifax with a pair of RR Vultures instead of its four engines. Or to be really specific, an operational Handley Page H.P.56:
(https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/ww2planes/handley-page/handley_page_hp_56-86959.jpg)