Author Topic: Empty Handed's Profiles  (Read 187930 times)

Offline Geist

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #450 on: February 15, 2013, 07:28:10 PM »
I also saw the other profiles in flickr, great work.
Just a tip, to improve even more your work.
Try to give a bit more contrast to the highlights and shadows and consequently turn a little more dark the bottom surface of the wings than their shadows on the plane. :)
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #451 on: February 15, 2013, 10:19:04 PM »
Thanks!

Geist, I'm afraid with these last few profiles, I've been striving to do the opposite of your advice! Shadows are rarely absolute, so I've been adding glints of light within the shadows. As an example, my kitchen handles are metal. They are beneath the counter line and cannot be in direct sunlight yet they each have a sheen running down their length - indirect lighting.

My profiles are all flyers. Though you cannot see them, they are all in reasonable proximity to clouds or a mostly innocuous planetary body and as such are indirectly lit by them, to varying degrees.

I suppose it is the varying degrees bit that is the problem as I tend to do both the highlights and shading on a case-by-case basis, going mainly by instinct. Since I have been studying aircraft pretty much every day for 30-odd years, I feel that my instincts are fairly well honed. I actually quite enjoy this process and feel my more recent efforts are reasonable depictions (YMMV).

That said, I have taken your advice onboard and will keep it in mind when doing profiles and may well add a few % to the shadows, a Geist Factor if you will.  ;)

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #453 on: February 16, 2013, 10:37:18 AM »

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #454 on: February 16, 2013, 11:37:40 AM »
Sweet...
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #455 on: February 16, 2013, 10:55:53 PM »
Very nice......  :icon_music:

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #456 on: February 17, 2013, 12:08:43 AM »
Very nice

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #457 on: February 17, 2013, 05:07:45 AM »
Great.
I like the McDonnell F-78C Phantom USAF 493rd FBS by mtpalmer1. :)
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #458 on: February 17, 2013, 12:48:52 PM »
Very nice! The Banshee looks great in USAF silver  :)
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #459 on: February 17, 2013, 01:48:59 PM »
I love 1950s aviation, Empty Handed, so these are just great!

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Logan

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #460 on: February 17, 2013, 02:13:53 PM »
Do like these Banshees.  Can picture them in 1950s ADC service.  With two J-47s or there abouts.  Maybe F-89 wing tip rocket pods.
Extend service life with two dry F404 engines with avionics and armament upgrades.  Doable in styrene if not 1/1 aluminum etc....
Appreciate you doing these profiles.  Brings back one and only time I saw Banshees flying.

Phantom I --- Banshee --- looking same to me.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2013, 02:18:36 PM by finsrin »

Offline JP Vieira

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #461 on: February 17, 2013, 06:03:05 PM »
Great one

Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #462 on: February 17, 2013, 10:23:35 PM »
Thank you everyone. I too, love 50s aviation.

FYI, I made Phantom the family name so that they could keep the F-78 designator, don't want to knock too many F-jets out of existence!  ;)

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Can picture them in 1950s ADC service.  With two J-47s or there abouts.  Maybe F-89 wing tip rocket pods.


I like this plan alot. F-89 pods should be do-able on a F2H-3/4. 2 J47s wouldn't fit in the wings (J34s are anemic) but one should fit in the fuselage. Best of all, the wing-root shenanigans would be hidden by the pod! Just add a jetpipe in the tail and voila! I've got some time in 2 weeks so I'll have a go then.

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Brings back one and only time I saw Banshees flying.


Very, very green right now!  :)

The last profile for a lil while. I've experimented a bit with this one and am curious to know what people think?


Goodyear P-72A USAAF 388th FS by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #463 on: February 17, 2013, 10:54:34 PM »
Oh yeah!!!
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #464 on: February 18, 2013, 01:19:21 AM »
Thanks Greg!

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The last profile for a lil while.


I lied.


McDonnell F-78E Phantom by mtpalmer1, on Flickr
« Last Edit: February 18, 2013, 08:08:55 AM by Empty Handed »

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #465 on: February 18, 2013, 01:43:21 AM »
That USAAF Corsair is NICE!!!!!!!!!!  Please do some more  8)
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #466 on: February 18, 2013, 05:05:03 AM »
Love the beautiful corsair!!!

Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #467 on: February 18, 2013, 06:50:13 AM »
Nice Corsair....... great minds think alike. That's what I was working on too. Some more Corsairs.

Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #468 on: February 18, 2013, 12:24:13 PM »
Thanks guys! More Corsairs are definitely on the to do list.

Meanwhile.....


McDonnell F-78E Phantom USAF ADC by mtpalmer1, on Flickr

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #469 on: February 18, 2013, 10:42:02 PM »
Mmmmm.....
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #470 on: February 18, 2013, 11:20:00 PM »
Very nice....

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #471 on: February 19, 2013, 07:36:13 AM »
Cool! What type of engine powers the F-78E?
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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #472 on: February 19, 2013, 08:58:39 AM »
Thanks!

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Cool! What type of engine powers the F-78E?

Good question. I was going to go with finsrin's suggestion and go with a J47 but that doesn't really have enough thrust until the -25 and that's for the B-47E so I can see SAC saying "mine, all mine!". Since we're revising the fuselage anyway, I'd say squeeze a J48 in. With water-injection, it's good for 8000lb thrust, so that, in combination with the cleaned up wing may get those pods moving forwards!

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Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #473 on: February 19, 2013, 10:52:40 AM »
One J48 with a bifurcated nozzle as used on the Sea Hawk?

Re: Empty Handed's Profiles
« Reply #474 on: February 19, 2013, 11:00:27 AM »
^ The F-78E has a conventional jetpipe (exiting beneath the horizontal tail). The aft fuselage is extensively beefed up from that of a F2H.